HOW MANY OF YALL ARE VOTING FOR PROP 19?? (LEGALIZING BUD)

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WHETHER YOU VOTE YES OR NO .. CHECK OUT THIS GOOD READ I FOUND. I JUST HOPE YALL GO OUT THERE AND VOTE.

WE ALL ARE CALIFORNIANS BY: NORM STAMPER


>> http://yeson19.com/node/142


We Are All Californians

Imagine it. Grownup Californians making a choice that should never have been denied them in the first place.

Proposition 19, the Regulate, Control, and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010 would allow adults in that state to possess up to an ounce of marijuana for personal consumption; to use marijuana in a non-public place; and to grow the weed at a private residence in an area not to exceed 25 square feet.

Whether you live in New Jersey or Tennessee, Texas or Oregon, there are compelling reasons for you and residents of all the other states to actively support this campaign in California.

Who should favor, and therefore work for the passage of Proposition 19? An abbreviated list, including both overlapping and contradictory stakeholders:

Law enforcement whose members face on the one hand the prospect of sudden, violent death at the hands of drug cartels and street gangs, and on the other the hostility they encounter when enforcing draconian, everybody-loses prohibition laws;

Members of the medical community who understand that marijuana is far less harmful to individuals and to society than alcohol and tobacco;

The scientific community whose research findings on both medical and recreational uses of marijuana have been widely ignored or distorted by drug war fanatics;

Politicians who could and should have moved years ago to legalize, tax, and control cannabis, and who now have an opportunity to show some real civic leadership;

Teachers, preachers, coaches, and counselors who, under a controlled and regulated system, would theoretically be able to make a more reasoned and persuasive anti-drug use appeal to children;

Parents who would finally be able to look their kids in the eye and tell them, "Yes, I use it. And, no, you cannot. Not until you're 21";

Conservatives who believe in states' rights;

Libertarians who believe in limited government;

Liberals and progressives who believe in nondiscriminatory policing, freedom of choice, and social justice;

Editorialists in both old and new media who, as opinion shapers, can make up for years of blind acceptance of the "This is your brain on drugs" lies and distortions of drug war propagandists;

Civil libertarians who are rightly offended by the erosion of Americans' civil liberties, particularly those embodied in the Fourth Amendment;

Ethnic minorities who for decades have been targeted, arrested, jailed, convicted, and sentenced to much longer prison terms in stunningly disproportionate numbers;

Students, workers, residents of public housing who have lost loans, jobs and career prospects, and/or the roofs over their heads because of a drug bust;

Families of the busted who've seen their loved ones — breadwinners, fathers, mothers — incarcerated for nonviolent offenses;

Law-abiding consumers of alcohol who, despite personal struggles with "adult beverages," have rejected use of the safer but forbidden cannabis;

Terminally ill or chronically pain-tormented patients who stand to benefit from freer access to a drug that, for many, has proven advantages over opioids in managing pain, enhancing appetite, and improving quality of life;

Abusers of marijuana who because of the risk and stigma attached to possession, have not had the courage or the wherewithal to get professional help;

Taxpayers who have been losing billions in tax revenues because of the myopic, moralistic attitudes implicit in prohibition;

Current, responsible consumers who would no longer be considered "criminals."

I was born and raised in California, spending the first 48 years of my life in San Diego. For the past 16 years I've called Washington State home. I love the Pacific Northwest, but for the next two months I'm a Californian again. My head and heart belong to a massive social movement that aims to restore human dignity, civil liberties, and common sense in the Golden State.

It's been said before but bears repeating: For better or worse, what germinates and blossoms in California often finds itself being lifted by prevailing winds of change and deposited in the other 49 states.

Californians have an opportunity to do what no other state has done, indeed, what no other country has accomplished. (No, pot is not legal in Amsterdam or anywhere else; it has been allowed, controlled, and regulated, not legalized).

Every American has a stake in the passage of Proposition 19.

Norm Stamper is a 34-year veteran police officer who retired as Seattle's chief of police in 2000.
 
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it won't pass...

and if it does it will get caught up in legal limbo, or get challenged by the FEDS.

I know alot of growers who are voting NO on it.

I could care less honestly, I puff like it's legal already.
 
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IM STILL TORN ON MY DECISION. I WANTED TO HEAR FOLKS OPINIONS, BUT NOT JUST A SIMPLE YES OR NO.. BUT A REASON BEHIND UR CHOICE AS WELL. I WILL BE VOTING, JUST DONT KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS YET.
 
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IM A VOTE NO ON IT BECAUSE I DONT WANT MY KIDS SMOKIN IT. ITS COOL TO BLOW WHEN YOU HAVE ACHEIVED ALL UR GOALS AND ARE WELL OFF. PASSIN THE LAW MIGHT MAKE PEOPLE THINK ITS OK TO SMOKE IT AND EVERYBODY CAN'T HANDLE WEED. ESPECIALLY THE KIND THATS OUT THERE NOW IT DONT TAKE MUCH TO GET HIGH. ITS SOME FIRE OUT THERE NOW.THERE'S ALWAYS ONE OF THE HOMIES THAT DON'T SMOKE IN THE CREW BUT LIKE TO DRINK OR SOME SHIT. SMOKIN WEED EVERYDAY MAKE YOU STUPID IN THE LONG RUN. U BE FORGETTIN SHIT ALL THE TIME. THAT WHY ITS BETTER TO DO IT WHEN YOUR ALREADY FINANCIALLY STABLE.
 
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Who stands to gain from it being legalized?

Surely not you. Not me.

It ain't like you can't go get it if you want it already. All this is gonna do is give the laws a bigger budget to go and fuck with people. They gonna tax that shit and still harrass the fuck out of you. You think you know some folks with DUIs now, just wait...

The gov getting your money coming and going. Tax you on the smoke, beef up police presence, bust you for being weeded in public or driving on it and have more folks in the system.

It's like they're rolling out the red carpet for dummies. Real shit.

I don't see the advantage to this one at all. And like dude said already, then more kids gonna be getting high too? That's all we need...
 

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vote no

its still illegal federally, because the DEA is keeping its stance that marijuana is a harmful drug and not medicine, and actually marijuana has harmful effects when smoked.

check this out i was reading the federal guidelines on marijuana and you should see all the things you still can get charged with...

so its not completely legalized...for one....the bill from what i hear is more about the taxation of marijuana

lets think about it, marijuana being the biggest cash crop right now, they want a piece of the action. you know how much tax money thats going to be coming in?

dont let someone fuck you in your ass for a half of a hamburger

secondly anhueser bush and ole phillip have supposedly already cashed out for cannabis farms, so that makes me wonder....whos payday was that? I personally think arnold is good right now. i know gwapele has changed hands...so its about something bigger..

..theyre gonna cut the hustlers out of their hustle..you aint even gonna go get a sack how you used to..

youre gonna see dirt weed in cigarettes...and on top of that youre gonna get taxed for your weed...which is gonna cost you more money at the weed spot every time...

another thing is state laws are gonna change, you wont be able to just have a pound at the pad sacked up...you still will get a minimum of 5 years for sales or trafficking, and those are cases that will be fought federally, obviously.

theres alot of fucked up things about this proposition....

i personally dont vote.... its just my individual stance on what i think about the govt and the voting process... but just to give people some info on it......id say read up on it...im gonna smoke weed everyday no matter what law passes...chuuch

"and fuck legalizing weed, keep the profit on the street"- Ras Kass

but nah just joking with that quote..theres some good things about it but theres some real bad things about it....like i said i personally think money has already exchanged hands and shit is in motion whether it passes or not

i dunno how it is with everyone else but its pretty much already legal...without a card...i wont say much else

but in all honesty i dont really care...if it passes cool if it dont it dont..put that one in the weed gods hands

i personally think they need to stop butting bullshit ass loopholes in propositions.....IMO

been talking about this for a few days imma read up more...but it dosent sound the smartest of moves...sounds like were getting hosed
 
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Voting yes will throw the street economy out of wack.lol
Hmmm...

I guess it's possible that "throwing the street economy out of wack" could lead to more crime due to even less opportunities to make money which would justify taxes from trees going to a beefed up police presence.

If only I was a thinking man, I would try to figure out how that might help the government, prison industry and big corporations in the long run.
 
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Humbolt County has already been trying to "brand" the weed that comes from the area.

the homie even told me that Altria (Phillip Morris/Big Tobacco) has filed paperwork to brand popular names of bud like White Widow, OG Kush, Trainwreck, etc.

I am not really 100% positive on the valadity of what he said, but it sounds like something they would do, they already got the distribution in place, and it wouldn't be hard for them to transition into the cannibis market.

Thats personally what I am afraid of, the big companies. I can see them putting additives in the product to physically addict and gain repeat customers.
 
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Humbolt County has already been trying to "brand" the weed that comes from the area.

the homie even told me that Altria (Phillip Morris/Big Tobacco) has filed paperwork to brand popular names of bud like White Widow, OG Kush, Trainwreck, etc.

I am not really 100% positive on the valadity of what he said, but it sounds like something they would do, they already got the distribution in place, and it wouldn't be hard for them to transition into the cannibis market.

Thats personally what I am afraid of, the big companies. I can see them putting additives in the product to physically addict and gain repeat customers.
picture walmart's big window cases behind the counters sitting next to the cigs and tobacco products, or at your corner liquor store...shit would be mainy haha

personally, im torn between the two. on one hand, you have it legal, now you dont feel like a criminal and your, like the article said, now you can tell your kid(s) that you smoke, and its not something you should have to hide to enjoy. also, it could lead to more jobs with more of a convenience to cop a sack by hitting up your corner liquor store.

on the other hand, you have it illegal, big companies cant wrap their tentacles around the market...and i hate to say it, but this is a major factor that outweighs a lot of the benefits.