Holyfield needs to retire before he kills himself

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May 13, 2002
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So Holyfield thinks god wants him to keep fighting...Hmmmm. Looks like he has a few marbles loose.
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Real Deal needs reality check

When a once great footballer loses his lustre, his manager no longer picks him; when a once legendary golfer fails to keep pace with the kids, he joins the seniors tour.

But when a celebrated fighter can no longer defend himself, people line up to tell him he can still be the champ and arenas and television networks vie to stage his bouts.

Such is the lot of Evander Holyfield, four-time heavyweight champion of the world turned punch bag to the mediocre.

Holyfield, 42, has earned an estimated $150m (£80m) in the ring during a 20-year career, which makes his continued pursuit of the undisputed world heavyweight crown puzzling.

Even more quixotic, Holyfield has already won the undisputed title once, way back in 1990 when he ruthlessly exposed the Buster Douglas myth.

On Saturday, the fighter formerly known as the "Real Deal" will fight Larry Donald at New York's Madison Square Garden, chief support on an underwhelming world title double-bill.

Headline act no longer and with two wins from his last eight fights, Holyfield still thinks he has the tools to accomplish his goal and still believes it is God's will he should do so.

HOLYFIELD'S LAST EIGHT FIGHTS

Oct '03 James Toney (L)
Dec '02 Chris Byrd (L)
Jun '02 Hasim Rahman (W)
Dec '01 John Ruíz (D)
Mar '03 John Ruíz (L)
Aug '00 John Ruíz (W)
Nov '99 Lennox Lewis (L)
Mar '99 Lennox Lewis (D)

"You can't choose your beginning and you can't choose how you want to end and my chosen goal is to retire as undisputed heavyweight champion of the world," Holyfield told BBC Sport.

"You can only lose if you quit - so as long as I don't quit I'll reach my goal."

Which begs the question, where do you draw the line?

When you are a quivering shell like Muhammad Ali?

Or when you are paralysed down one side like Greg Page, the former WBA champion who, like Holyfield, didn't know when to walk away.

Holyfield is unable to escape what sports psychologist Paul Dent calls his "athletic identity".

"Sportsmen are defined by the sport that they play," explains Dent of Brunel University.

"If Holyfield's not a boxer, what is he? Boxing's one of the most glamorous sports in the world - you're idolised, known throughout the world. To leave that behind is difficult.

"You are defined by that persona and when these people go back to relative obscurity the desire to return to that former glory is often too much."

Then there is the inner circle, the people who should have told Holyfield to quit when he was battered by James Toney last October.

Holyfield sacked his long-term trainer Don Turner for having the good sense to stop that fight and has since brought in a team that will do as he says.

Yes men", as Lennox Lewis' former manager Frank Maloney calls them.

"Fighters are blinded by people around them, people who are making money out of them," says Maloney.

"There's always people whispering in their ear, people persuading them they are better than they are.

"And too many managers are keen to keep their fighters fighting even if they know they should retire."

Holyfield sees it differently.

"No-one should ever be able to make a decision for someone and if you are not going to believe in someone you shouldn't be with them.

"So I chose someone (trainer Ronnie Shields) who believes that I can and that's going to make the difference.

"My family believe daddy's a rock, they believe daddy can do it - and they've been taught by me that if you don't quit you'll get it eventually."

Someone should tell Evander's kids that if hit hard and often enough, even rocks can break.
 
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I believe in Holyfield...that guy is a savage.

Even looking at his last 8 fights.
1) Lewis isnt in the picture anymore.
2) He beat Ruiz Twice, it wasnt a draw.
3) Byrd is just too slick, he will always hold a belt.
4) Toney is comming off a serious injury.

Evander is still a top 5 Heavyweight in the game...
The division is fairly weak right now.
 
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He wants to die in the ring, everytime he gets beat down I feel embarassed for him. He should enjoy his money while he still has brain-cells.
 
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Here's what Jim Rome had to say...this was on jimrome.com.

Someone needs to stage an intervention for Evander Holyfield. Someone needs to get with this guy, explain to him that he's the 4-time Heavyweight Champion of the World, and explain he's never going to get to number 5.

Evander's not getting any closer to a championship. In fact, he is getting closer to being in a wheelchair. Holyfield was badly beaten by journeyman Larry Donald on Saturday night in New York City. According to reports, Holyfield lost almost every single round of the fight, and was baldy beaten by Donald.

He didn't lose a tough decision to a tough fighter. He didn't get taken out by a lucky punch. This was a baldy beaten fighter, getting his ass kicked by a guy who wouldn’t have been able to stay in the ring for 5 rounds when Evander was in his prime.

After the fight, Holyfield refused to call it a career, despite the fact that he has lost 7 of his last 9 fights.

Evander, you have more money than you could spend in 10 lifetimes. You have so much money you can pay for all of those kids you have. You don’t need to fight anymore. Sure it's all you know. You might not know how to do anything else, but stop while you can still learn to do something else. All those hundreds of millions in the bank are worthless if you're a vegetable.

Kind of hard to enjoy the fruits of all your hard work if you're just sitting in a rocking chair with a blanket over your knees taking your meals through a straw. Let's remember the good times Evander. Let's remember that miraculous win against Tyson. Let's remember the 4 titles.
Don’t have us remember the night you went into the ring one too many times.
 
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Serio, check it:
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Tuesday, November 16, 2004


Associated Press
NEW YORK -- Evander Holyfield was suspended indefinitely by New York boxing officials in the wake of his loss Saturday night to journeyman Larry Donald.


Ron Stevens, chairman of the New York State Athletic Commission, told the New York Daily News on Monday that Holyfield was suspended because "to my practiced mind, Holyfield shouldn't be fighting anymore. It's the responsibility of the state athletic commission to save a boxer from himself."


The suspension means the 42-year-old former four-time heavyweight champion will have to seek medical clearance if he wants to fight again.


After losing a lopsided decision to Donald, Holyfield said he still plans to fight. Holyfield won only one round on one scorecard and two on the other two in the 12-round fight.


Holyfield has won only two of his last nine fights, and took a beating a year ago from James Toney. Donald didn't hurt him, but Holyfield landed only 78 punches of his own over 12 rounds, according to ringside statistics compiled by Compubox.


Holyfield told the New York Daily News on Monday that the New York State Athletic Commission was involved in a "conspiracy" to get him out of boxing and that he would contest the ban.
 

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I am a true Holyfield fan and I think he should retire... After James Toney knocked him out I said that should be it... And it should. I think he's fighting and looking to land one knockout punch but he's never been known to land one knockout punch.