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the best about this animation is that everybody can look at it and see when and where his religion appeared, then think about what really is the reason why it should be the "true religion"...
 
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thats semi retarded. im not sure if theyre trying to say that buddhism spread through war because that would be extremely incorrect. it seems to infer that. if one is a buddhist and has any interest in war then they are not a buddhist, plain and simple. the christianity part of it is interesting and definitely scary.
 
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thats semi retarded. im not sure if theyre trying to say that buddhism spread through war because that would be extremely incorrect. it seems to infer that. if one is a buddhist and has any interest in war then they are not a buddhist, plain and simple. the christianity part of it is interesting and definitely scary.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/buddhism/buddhistethics/war.shtml

Buddhism and war
Non-violence is at the heart of Buddhist thinking and behaviour. The first of the five precepts that all Buddhists should follow is "Avoid killing, or harming any living thing."

Buddhism is essentially a peaceful tradition. Nothing in Buddhist scripture gives any support to the use of violence as a way to resolve conflict.

In times of war
Give rise in yourself to the mind of compassion,
Helping living beings
Abandon the will to fight.
One of Buddha's sermons puts this very clearly with a powerful example that stresses the need to love your enemy no matter how cruelly he treats you:

Even if thieves carve you limb from limb with a double-handed saw, if you make your mind hostile you are not following my teaching.
Kamcupamasutta, Majjhima-Nikkaya I ~ 28-29
Figures like the Dalai Lama (who won the Nobel Peace Prize) demonstrate in word and deed Buddhism's commitment to peace.

"Hatred will not cease by hatred, but by love alone.
This is the ancient law."
Many Buddhists have refused to take up arms under any circumstances, even knowing that they would be killed as a result. The Buddhist code that governs the life of monks permits them to defend themselves, but it forbids them to kill, even in self-defence.

For Buddhist countries this poses the difficult dilemma of how to protect the rights and lives of their citizens without breaking the principle of nonviolence.

The pure Buddhist attitude is shown in this story:

A Vietnam veteran was overheard rebuking the Vietnamese Buddhist monk, Thich Nhat Hanh, about his unswerving dedication to non-violence.

"You're a fool," said the veteran - "what if someone had wiped out all the Buddhists in the world and you were the last one left. Would you not try to kill the person who was trying to kill you, and in doing so save Buddhism?!"

Thich Nhat Hanh answered patiently "It would be better to let him kill me. If there is any truth to Buddhism and the Dharma it will not disappear from the face of the earth, but will reappear when seekers of truth are ready to rediscover it.

"In killing I would be betraying and abandoning the very teachings I would be seeking to preserve. So it would be better to let him kill me and remain true to the spirit of the Dharma."

Buddhism and martial arts
Buddhist monks have been leaders in developing various forms of martial arts. The Shaolin Order is perhaps the best known of these, famed for their fighting prowess.

Martial arts would seem to be about as far from non-violence as you can get, but Buddhist forms of martial arts have very strict rules about how violence can be used.

The Shaolin teaching forbids the monk from ever being the aggressor, and instructs him to use only the minimum necessary defensive force. By becoming skilled in physical conflict the monk has a better understanding of violence and is able to use sophisticated techniques to avoid harm, ranging from simple parrying of clumsy blows to paralysing grips and knockout blows in the face of extreme violence - but always using only the amount of force needed to refuse the violence that is being offered to them.

Most martial arts traditions have strong spiritual and philosophical elements, and insist on a responsible and minimalist attitude to violence.

Buddhism and violence
But Buddhism, like the other great faiths, has not always lived up to its principles - there are numerous examples of Buddhists engaging in violence and even war.

in the 14th century Buddhist fighters led the uprising that evicted the Mongols from China

in Japan, Buddhist monks trained Samurai warriors in meditation that made them better fighters

In the twentieth century Japanese Zen masters wrote in support of Japan's wars of aggression. For example, Sawaki Kodo (1880–1965) wrote this in 1942


"It is just to punish those who disturb the public order. Whether one kills or does not kill, the precept forbidding killing [is preserved]. It is the precept forbidding killing that wields the sword. It is the precept that throws the bomb."
Sawaki Kodo

In Sri Lanka the 20th century civil war between the mostly Buddhist Sinhalese majority and the Hindu Tamil minority has cost 50,000 lives.
 
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thats semi retarded. im not sure if theyre trying to say that buddhism spread through war because that would be extremely incorrect. it seems to infer that. if one is a buddhist and has any interest in war then they are not a buddhist, plain and simple. the christianity part of it is interesting and definitely scary.
The scary part is how the Word Christian during the time the New Testament was written and finished, was often associated with Men who followed Jesus Christ, preached with peace, love and fellowship. But It also was often associated with being persecuted. Then when the Romans created their own version of "Christianity" with Roman Catholicism and their inquistions, A christian bitterly was associated with Persecution instead of the persecuted. If anything is Scary is how Islam Spread and how Roman Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity took over. Orthodox and Christianity were not the Original "Christianity" so to speak. The Original Chrisitans Actually were followers of the Way or what we modernly know now as Messianic Judaism.
 
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Exactly, put the tab on the Early Age of the Papacy and the Orthodox "Christian" church. Persecuting Protestants and non-christians whom they deemed heathens or devilish. History repeats itself, wherever there is truth, comes apostasy. Not much later after the reformation, the Protestants were doing the same thing the Catholics were doing, PERSECUTING! They had their own ways of instituting "telling the truth" with torture and hangings, as evident in the Book of the Crucible. Wherever there is Truth, apostasy ALMOST ALWAYS follows. Looking Today and looking at the past, I should change Almost, TO ALWAYS!
 
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Exactly, put the tab on the Early Age of the Papacy and the Orthodox "Christian" church. Persecuting Protestants and non-christians whom they deemed heathens or devilish. History repeats itself, wherever there is truth, comes apostasy. Not much later after the reformation, the Protestants were doing the same thing the Catholics were doing, PERSECUTING! They had their own ways of instituting "telling the truth" with torture and hangings, as evident in the Book of the Crucible. Wherever there is Truth, apostasy ALMOST ALWAYS follows. Looking Today and looking at the past, I should change Almost, TO ALWAYS!
Have you ever seen the movie.....Kingdom of Heaven...

Great example of Christianity to me.