HIP HOP = NIGGER (long one but read it, this is some good stuff)

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lol @ this, sure some shit existed before hip hop, but its on a more wide scale than it was because now its publicized and on every tv show radio station and video game. now everyone is exposed to it, and exposure numerous times shows results, thats how commercials work, and thats how listening to violent hip hop all the time works. and black on black crime is only due to society in the sense that society excepts and stands up for hip hop with dumbass rants like this, thus making it look cool to carry weapons to even the youngsters that are 8 or 9 years of age because they have access to bet or mtv, then they get exposed to it for years till they actually do it. now, whos fault is this, the white mans? yes, of coarse, because he always holds blacks down. that right there was a bit sarcastic, but whitey does have blame in this. he not only buys most of the rap cds thus deciding what sells, he also controls airways to control whats on tv. but heres the catch, rappers and record label owners are at fault as well. record labels manipulate artists into doing what sells, they dont have to but they do, cause their just as greedy as the higher white man, then the artist complies, cause hes greedy as fuck too, and wants his cut. same with everyone else involved in the making of hip hop, besides a few that have kept it true. so in short, its everyones fault, its hip hops fault, whiteys fault, and the artists fault (usually black) blah, there u go
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I agree that it would be nice, but people will follow where the money is, and the money is not in helping out the black community.



Once again, you can't blame something that already existed before on rappers. And as I mentioned above, the money is in promoting nothing but ignorance to kids.
rap isnt the root of the problem but it contributes, rather than help
 
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Good Read, thank you for posting it...




His point is that to blame "hip hop" for society's problems is rediculous and racist.
are you retarded? it takes a minority to say such things, i notice whites werent running around crying racist when rock was blamed for everything, or replacing the word rock with cracker or honky. lmao, the fact that some of you cant understand that the music that is most popular will be negative, and a negative thing on top will always be blamed really makes me wonder about your intelligence
 
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yea i agree that you can't blame music.
people in the military listen to country music all day
and they kill people all day too, can't say music influenced dem ryt?
there is no proof of your claim, and if they didnt kill theyd be killed, that is an example of instincts not musical influence. plus theyve been trained to kill
 
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Music influences people. Maybe some more than others. Because music has an effect on a society as a whole, it leads people to believe that the shit that some people rap about is cool and respectable. People want notoriety, crime can get you that. That's why my friend, who lives in a ballin ass house in the hills of Diablo (think blackhawk), just bought a kilo of coke and a thousand pills, even though he has all the money he could possibly need
truth.com. Thizz, I think the current trend is to be ignorant & to have street cedibility. Look at these rap cats who wanna be Hustlers & Pimps. Image is everything. Just like your friend in Blackhawk, I know a few of these type. They get into the game with a silver spoon in their mouths and usually they fail. These streets is real out here and these niggas in playing with the game. BTW, Do u think your friend can hook me with a few triple stacks???

JP
 
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are you retarded? it takes a minority to say such things, i notice whites werent running around crying racist when rock was blamed for everything, or replacing the word rock with cracker or honky. lmao, the fact that some of you cant understand that the music that is most popular will be negative, and a negative thing on top will always be blamed really makes me wonder about your intelligence
No, are YOU retarded? It takes a minority to say what? That hip-hop isn't to blame for the problems in the black community? You're a fuckin idiot if you believe that hip-hop is to blame.

I swear, some white folks on this site will argue with black/Mexican people about anything, acting like they're doing their race a favor by defending white no matter what.

I'm done with you stupid fucks on this thread, you guys believe whatever the fuck ou want to believe...
 
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If hip hop is to blame, it's only because it's underneath the umbrella of the entertainment industry, which is responsible for presenting all the "values" that impressionable people are influenced by.

Hip Hop itself and alone can't be blamed for shit.

In the case of hip hop, art does imitate life, because just as there negative /positive aspects to the music, the same exists in the "life" that hip hop is said to represent.

We all know that there are drug dealers, drug addicts, and other criminal types in the hood - just as there are lawyers, dentists, teachers, and other positive and productive peoples, too.

To blame hip hop for solely the negative aspects is ridiculous, and any white savior who wants to argue the "finer" points without seeing the bigger picture can argue with someone else.

I've said my piece on this tired topic.
 
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No, are YOU retarded? It takes a minority to say what? That hip-hop isn't to blame for the problems in the black community? You're a fuckin idiot if you believe that hip-hop is to blame.

I swear, some white folks on this site will argue with black/Mexican people about anything, acting like they're doing their race a favor by defending white no matter what.

I'm done with you stupid fucks on this thread, you guys believe whatever the fuck ou want to believe...
i said in a previous post if you can read, that its everyones fault including hip hops. and i was saying its retarded to believe that blaming hip hop is racist. besides how is blaming hip hop standing up for whites? according to you whites own all the labels and radio stations, so im in fact blaming whites as well. your just gonna leave though cause you know your not making sense
 
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If hip hop is to blame, it's only because it's underneath the umbrella of the entertainment industry, which is responsible for presenting all the "values" that impressionable people are influenced by.

Hip Hop itself and alone can't be blamed for shit.

In the case of hip hop, art does imitate life, because just as there negative /positive aspects to the music, the same exists in the "life" that hip hop is said to represent.

We all know that there are drug dealers, drug addicts, and other criminal types in the hood - just as there are lawyers, dentists, teachers, and other positive and productive peoples, too.

To blame hip hop for solely the negative aspects is ridiculous, and any white savior who wants to argue the "finer" points without seeing the bigger picture can argue with someone else.

I've said my piece on this tired topic.
i agree to a point, but hip hop is a reflection of life, yes, but its a reflection of alot of negativity, which can be accessed by anyone able to use a tv remote. it is glorified as well, which in turn makes these negative aspects of life seem like positives to younger...naw fuck it, to alot of people in general. see what im saying, hip hop isnt to blame for starting this shit, but since hip hop its become more of a problem. like the guy said earlier, hip hop didnt start these problems, its just making them worse
 
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i said in a previous post if you can read, that its everyones fault including hip hops. and i was saying its retarded to believe that blaming hip hop is racist. besides how is blaming hip hop standing up for whites? according to you whites own all the labels and radio stations, so im in fact blaming whites as well. your just gonna leave though cause you know your not making sense
White does not equal Hip Hop, it's still black. The fact that whites own all the labels and radio stations doesn't make THEM hip hop you mental midget, it just means that they make money off of it. Much like they make money off many other cultures in America.

And blaming Hip-Hop IS racist IMO, but you have yours...
 
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^^^racist because im sick of seeing minorities like myself have no ambition to properly educate themselves because all they wanna do is follow in the footsteps of young jeezy and soulja boy and live their life like idiots?

the white executives know that theyre feeding shit to the public but they could care less, because theyre getting rich off of it and theyre kids arent the ones being affected by it. and the white executives know they cant directly feed the shit to people, but rather need black faces to feed the shit out, so here come the rappers who go yeah ill feed shit to people if i get paid for it. so theyre all to blame.

do you really believe hip hop plays no role in the life of a person who spends a good part of his day soaking it in? especially for a person who lives in the streets and sees banging, drug dealing, etc. taking place right in front of him. he has the people on the streets to look up to, but then he has rappers to look up to too, and all the rapper role models do is reinforce that banging and drug dealing is just a way of life and almost glorifies it. so again, hip hops not the reason for the bad things going on in the projects, but for the sake of a few people getting rich, it fuels it, rather than try and put some water on it
 
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White does not equal Hip Hop, it's still black. The fact that whites own all the labels and radio stations doesn't make THEM hip hop you mental midget, it just means that they make money off of it. Much like they make money off many other cultures in America.

And blaming Hip-Hop IS racist IMO, but you have yours...
everyone = hip hop


its the next big shit right now, and just as many blacks make money off of it as whites. if blacks didnt wanna make money off of it, whites couldnt offer them distribution thus they couldnt make money off of it. hip hop would just be on street corners and shit, and lil ass kids wouldnt be exposed to it, so its everyones fault


the very fact your making this a racial issue, makes you the racist. everyone loves to cry racist when they know their wrong and its their last stand, their little wild card. let me ask you this, was it racist when they blamed rock for a gang of problems? because by your ideology rock = white being that most rock artists are white? if you answer is no to this, and you keep the thought that blaming hip hop is racist, you are in fact being racist
 
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^^^racist because im sick of seeing minorities like myself have no ambition to properly educate themselves because all they wanna do is follow in the footsteps of young jeezy and soulja boy and live their life like idiots?

the white executives know that theyre feeding shit to the public but they could care less, because theyre getting rich off of it and theyre kids arent the ones being affected by it. and the white executives know they cant directly feed the shit to people, but rather need black faces to feed the shit out, so here come the rappers who go yeah ill feed shit to people if i get paid for it. so theyre all to blame.

do you really believe hip hop plays no role in the life of a person who spends a good part of his day soaking it in? especially for a person who lives in the streets and sees banging, drug dealing, etc. taking place right in front of him. he has the people on the streets to look up to, but then he has rappers to look up to too, and all the rapper role models do is reinforce that banging and drug dealing is just a way of life and almost glorifies it. so again, hip hops not the reason for the bad things going on in the projects, but for the sake of a few people getting rich, it fuels it, rather than try and put some water on it
well white kids in the suburbs buy more rap music than anyone, so those excecs kids are effected too, other than that you and me are on the same page, and @ lamberto, is carl winslow racist as well, cause he blames hip hop? he aint even white. one thing i will say though, it seems whites kids are some huge ass swagger jackers these days, they all tryin to be gangster too when theyve never seen a gangsta outside their television
 
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^^^racist because im sick of seeing minorities like myself have no ambition to properly educate themselves because all they wanna do is follow in the footsteps of young jeezy and soulja boy and live their life like idiots?

the white executives know that theyre feeding shit to the public but they could care less, because theyre getting rich off of it and theyre kids arent the ones being affected by it. and the white executives know they cant directly feed the shit to people, but rather need black faces to feed the shit out, so here come the rappers who go yeah ill feed shit to people if i get paid for it. so theyre all to blame.

do you really believe hip hop plays no role in the life of a person who spends a good part of his day soaking it in? especially for a person who lives in the streets and sees banging, drug dealing, etc. taking place right in front of him. he has the people on the streets to look up to, but then he has rappers to look up to too, and all the rapper role models do is reinforce that banging and drug dealing is just a way of life and almost glorifies it. so again, hip hops not the reason for the bad things going on in the projects, but for the sake of a few people getting rich, it fuels it, rather than try and put some water on it
What about TV shows, movies, video games, books, magazines, newspapers, other kinds of music, etc.,? Hip hop cannot be blamed. An argument could be made that Hip Hop isn't doing much these days to change things around for the black community, but you cannot argue that hip hop is to blame for something that existed long before it was even concieved.
 
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everyone = hip hop


its the next big shit right now, and just as many blacks make money off of it as whites. if blacks didnt wanna make money off of it, whites couldnt offer them distribution thus they couldnt make money off of it. hip hop would just be on street corners and shit, and lil ass kids wouldnt be exposed to it, so its everyones fault


the very fact your making this a racial issue, makes you the racist. everyone loves to cry racist when they know their wrong and its their last stand, their little wild card. let me ask you this, was it racist when they blamed rock for a gang of problems? because by your ideology rock = white being that most rock artists are white? if you answer is no to this, and you keep the thought that blaming hip hop is racist, you are in fact being racist
I'm not making this a racial issue, the writer of the article decided to make it a racial issue, and I happen to agree with him. How does that make ME racist? And everyone does not equal hip hop, no matter how much you as well as other cultureless people in America try to make that shit theirs.

And just to make it clear (I'm not sure if you truley understoond the article), the writer is saying that people in the media, and in general, who blame events on "Hip-Hop" really mean to say "Niggers". That is his argument, and that is what's racist about people blaming hip-hop. He's talking about using it under certain context's where had the person substituted the word "Nigger" for the word "Hip-Hop", his racism would be very obvious to point out. But the fact that people can get away with blaming "Hip-Hop" and it's politically correct is what the write was criticizing, and I agree with him.
 
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@ lamberto, is carl winslow racist as well, cause he blames hip hop? he aint even white. one thing i will say though, it seems whites kids are some huge ass swagger jackers these days, they all tryin to be gangster too when theyve never seen a gangsta outside their television
I dont know Carl Winslow, but I wouldn't say he's a racist from what he wrote on here. That is simply his opinion, just like you have yours and I have mine.

And the white kids jacking swagger is what I was meant when I was reffering to the cultureless people taking hip-hop as their own.
 
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I dont know Carl Winslow, but I wouldn't say he's a racist from what he wrote on here. That is simply his opinion, just like you have yours and I have mine.

And the white kids jacking swagger is what I was meant when I was reffering to the cultureless people taking hip-hop as their own.
using hip hop as expression isnt swagger jacking if you do it your own way, living in the burbs trying to be gangster is, and people in america come from all parts of the world, we all have hella cultures, if some white guy has a traditional mexican dinner, he isnt considered culture less, he is taking part in other cultures brought to america, when blacks take up organized crime and gangs, then name themselves after mobsters their not culture less. acting like someone or something youve never been exposed to is what i was talking about. besides, in my opinion, making anything racially exclusive including culture is racist. we just name the cultures based on where they originated (i.e mexican = mexico, italian = italy) and me and carl winslow seem on the same page about giving hip hop blame,so how is he not a racist (not sure if you think im racist, i wont put words in yur mouth), but people blaming hip hop are? were in the same boat from my understanding, and answer my question, when everyone was blaming rock and roll, was that racist? cause rock = white, did they mean cracker honky or snowflake instead of rock? and as far as books, movies, games and such, i agree, i blame them as well, NO ONE here with any intelligence is blaming JUST hip hop. but its like you can blame something for a problem that existed before it, murder existed before religion, but religion is blamed for war. the thing is, war existed before, but the 2002 - current war in the middle east didnt exist before. just like the killings of people on the streets NOW did not exist back before hip hop, cause their happening NOW. if you dont understand my point, ill better explain myself in my next post,and lets just keep the retarded midget shit out of this from now on.
 
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using hip hop as expression isnt swagger jacking if you do it your own way, living in the burbs trying to be gangster is, and people in america come from all parts of the world, we all have hella cultures, if some white guy has a traditional mexican dinner, he isnt considered culture less, he is taking part in other cultures brought to america, when blacks take up organized crime and gangs, then name themselves after mobsters their not culture less. acting like someone or something youve never been exposed to is what i was talking about. besides, in my opinion, making anything racially exclusive including culture is racist. we just name the cultures based on where they originated (i.e mexican = mexico, italian = italy) and me and carl winslow seem on the same page about giving hip hop blame,so how is he not a racist (not sure if you think im racist, i wont put words in yur mouth), but people blaming hip hop are? were in the same boat from my understanding, and answer my question, when everyone was blaming rock and roll, was that racist? cause rock = white, did they mean cracker honky or snowflake instead of rock? and as far as books, movies, games and such, i agree, i blame them as well, NO ONE here with any intelligence is blaming JUST hip hop. but its like you can blame something for a problem that existed before it, murder existed before religion, but religion is blamed for war. the thing is, war existed before, but the 2002 - current war in the middle east didnt exist before. just like the killings of people on the streets NOW did not exist back before hip hop, cause their happening NOW. if you dont understand my point, ill better explain myself in my next post,and lets just keep the retarded midget shit out of this from now on.
I don't believe you're a racist, nor do I believe that people who believe that hip-hop is to blame are racists. However, I do agree with the author of the article that on many occasions, people use the words "Hip-Hop" when they really mean to say "Niggers" or the black community. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE CONTEXT IT'S BEING USED...

And your example of the war is a huge fallacy because things have been leading up to this war since the late eighties and early nineties. Do you think all that shit happened out of the blue? Your argument makes no sense whatsoever...
 

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whats sad is that we have to even debate the "racism" of it, and just placing blame on things instead of people just accepting responsiblity for what they do. fuck it being a white thing, black thing, a hip hop thing, a rock thing, etc. and we just look at like it is: we don't take individual responsiblity for anything anymore. we dont analyze how things could have been prevented, we're just concerned with blame, in every facet of this country, the world, the streets, the burbs, on tv, in the media, etc. a bit of a rant, yes, but have we even come close to figuring out why school shootings happen?