He grabbed girl's arm -- now he's a sex offender

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He grabbed girl's arm -- now he's a sex offender

July 1, 2005

BY STEVE PATTERSON Staff Reporter

Fitzroy Barnaby said he had to swerve to avoid hitting the 14-year-old Des Plaines girl who walked in front of his car.

She said he yelled, "Come here, little girl," before getting out of his car and grabbing her by the arm.

He said he simply lectured her.

She said she broke free and ran, fearful of what he'd do next.

In a Thursday ruling, the Appellate Court of Illinois said the 28-year-old Evanston man must register as a sex offender.

While acknowledging it might be "unfair for [Barnaby] to suffer the stigmatization of being labeled a sex offender when his crime was not sexually motivated," the court said his actions are the type that are "often a precursor" to a child being abducted or molested.

Though Barnaby was acquitted of attempted kidnapping and child abduction charges stemming from the November 2002 incident, he was convicted of unlawful restraint of a minor -- which is a sex offense.

'Most stupid ruling'

Now, he will have to tell local police where he lives and won't be able to live near a park or school.

"This is the most stupid ruling the appellate court has rendered in years," said Barnaby's Chicago attorney, Frederick Cohn. "If you see a 15-year-old beating up your 8-year-old and you grab that kid's hand and are found guilty of unlawful restraint, do you now have to register as a sex offender?"

But Cook County state's attorney spokesman Tom Stanton said Barnaby should have to register "because of the proclivity of offenders who restrain children to also commit sex acts or other crimes against them."

In the criminal case against him, Cook County Judge Patrick Morse said that "it's more likely than not" Barnaby planned only "to chastise the girl" when he grabbed her, but "I can't read his mind."

"I don't really see the purpose of registration in this case. I really don't," Morse said. "But I feel that I am constrained by the statute."

Recognizing the stigma that comes with being labeled as a sex offender, the appellate court said "it is [Barnaby's] actions which have caused him to be stigmatized, not the courts."
 
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Yet another reason why people don't discipline their children. Can't restrain them when they're being bad, can't give 'em a light smack when they're being bad, can't spank them. That's probably why she walked out in front of his car in the first place; She didn't know any better not to because she wasn't disciplined. I was smacked a few times as a kid, but not a lot. I didn't need to be. I was naturally timid and inward. But there's kids on my block now who really need a good beatin'. Little 11 year old SOB the other day flipped me off because he had to move his skate board ramp out of the street. His 8 year old brother screamed a racist obscenity at some other neighbors a few weeks ago. But people don't want to discipline other folk's kids... The ones who do get in trouble. Hell, even the parents get in trouble these days...
 
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thats some fucked up shit for real.....somthing like that happened to me...when i was 18 me and my boys was out of town and we woke up from this party at liek 8 in the morning and cut out....well after we left i had to take a leak, so i went on the side of the apt complex. well some hero saw me and decided to call the po po. got charged with lewd conduct...in teh court they said they felt bad cuz that could have happened to anyone but they had no choice with the charge...so everytime i try to get a place to live then it pops up on my criminal background check and needless to say the managers are shocked until i tell them all i did was piss behind a building real quick......then they laugh...but of course the charge sounds like a was wacking off in a city park or somthin....fuckin shit
 
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If that's my daughter and sum stranger comes running out his car putting his hands all up on her??? Shiiiiet, I'd kill that motherfucka. He shouldn't have put his hands on little girl.
 
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If that's my daughter and sum stranger comes running out his car putting his hands all up on her??? Shiiiiet, I'd kill that motherfucka. He shouldn't have put his hands on little girl.

true, but people are missing the most important part about this...she was riding her bike in the road and HE HAD TO SWERVE TO AVOID HTTING HER, waht the fuck is a little girl doing in the street like that anywayS? Her parents should be thank full shes not dead!! Now what are they doin?? pressin charges against the guy probly to take the light off them for being shitty parents who dont know how to keep their little girl out of the fucking street..... chances are if he hit her and she died he woudlent have even been liable because she was biking in the place she wasint supposed to be
 

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Real predators such as Joseph edward Duncan III, were allowed to roam, torture, abuse, molest and kill. This guy almost smacked a broad, grabbed her by the arm and gave her a lecture. Now he's a sex offender.


Only in america.


If I were him I would take this shit to a national level and inform all media outlets of the situation, ruling, etc. He would get some type of attention especially with all these kidnappings and molesting cases going on.
 
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true, but people are missing the most important part about this...she was riding her bike in the road and HE HAD TO SWERVE TO AVOID HTTING HER, waht the fuck is a little girl doing in the street like that anywayS? Her parents should be thank full shes not dead!! Now what are they doin?? pressin charges against the guy probly to take the light off them for being shitty parents who dont know how to keep their little girl out of the fucking street..... chances are if he hit her and she died he woudlent have even been liable because she was biking in the place she wasint supposed to be
Ok, either you know something the article isn't saying, or you're on drugs...

The article says NOTHING about a road, and nothing about a bicycle...

All I KNOW is that she "walked in front of his car" and he almost hit her. Since pedestrians almost always have right of way, and if there are pedestrians around he shouldn't be going fast in the first place, I don't feel any sympathy for him. How do I know this wasn't in a parking lot?

He then EXITED his vehicle, went to her and placed his hands on her. That's fuckin assault right there, should it be a sex crime? hell no, but it is assault and he should learn to control his fuckin temper...

Like I said, if that's my daughter, old boy would've caught an ass whippin.
 
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^^^true...

i can relate to this...
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i had a situation 2 yrs ago..
where my girl and i were watching ...my girls-brothers-kids ...(3 sons)..
all of which were very un disciplined...and very badly behaved (flip you off, tell you they hate you, etc etc, didnt listen at all)....
...well...me..i dont put up with it..
im not about to have a 4 yr old kid flipping me off...and a 3 yr old..tell me they hate me..
...so what i would do is ground them or spank them...if they got to totally out of control..
...mind you i have a son...and i dont think its proper to spank anyones kids..like they are your own..
so i wouldnt...spank them as hard or regular...as i would do my own son..
....well long story short..

....next thing i know....SRS (social Rehabilitation Services) are calling me...
tell me they wanna meet with me...
(reason i was watching these kids in the first place with my girl was cause her brother was going through a bad divorce)..
well.....this bitch he is divorcing..never liked me...
so she uses the opportunity...
of her kids....telling her..."Uncle JLMACN spanked me"...or "uncle JLMACN told me i cant watch TV"..
and she runs with it...and tells SRS i was beating her children...
....

it was one fucked up situation..
....they came to my house....wanted to meet my son..
ask him questions...
...all because i was being a good fucking UNCLe....
and watching my three newphews....and trying to show them to be respectful...
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i couldnt believe it..

and mygirls brother couldnt do anything about it..
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he almost lost the kids because of it..
...

the world is fucked up sometimes...when you are just tryin to do right..

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It's all about the " It's my kid, I discipline it." thing. If someone grabbed my kid's arm I'd be pissed, but then again if some kid was doing something stupid I'd be pissed they were doing it. Like if someone's kid wanders into your yard and starts kicking your dog, do you have the right to smack that kid around? If a kid is playing in the road and you almost hit them, is it OK to get angry and grab them? Kids do stupid things because their parents just let them roam around with out correction. When I worked in a clothing store, OUR store got sued because someone's kid pulled a rack down on themselves. One of those metal four ways. Because the kid was HANGING on it. We were not allowed to physically touch anyone's children to stop them. We told her to stop hanging on it, and even tried to get the mother to come over. But the kid fell anyway and got hurt. And if one of us had grabbed her off of it, we'd have gotten sued probably anyway..

Like the kids who run around stores and fall, or knock things over. We can yell at them to stop, but we can't touch them. Hell, you yell at the kid and the parents might get offended. It's a touchy subject.

That bit of trauma of getting yelled at and grabbed for doing something stupid may have saved her life in the long run. She'll think twice before not being cautious in the road.
 
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Along the same lines, but not totally to the subject, my friend had to put his dog down because of a kid. He had a really sweet, 13 year old german shepherd mix. Sweet natured dog. 8 year old kid came into the yard and started beating on the dog and the dog bit the kid. Dog had to be put down because of that. If my kid was stupid enough to beat on a dog ( which would never happen because I would DISCIPLINE my child and my family loves animals ) I'd have hoped my kid would get bit to learn to a lesson. And I'd apologize to the owner.
 
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I think one of the problems these days in America is there is no community. We as a community have no right to help raise/teach/guide/discipline the youth. It’s every man and child for themselves. As soon as somebody comes along and tries to do good, they get sued or convicted of a crime.

I remember when I was about 8 years old I threw a rock at a car window while it was driving. The man stopped the car, ran after me, grabbed me but he didn’t physically hurt me, he just grabbed me and yelled at me for a second, told me how wrong I was for what I did and that someone could have been killed. That shit scared the fuck out of me. The guy didn’t care about his broken window; he was the victim and saw that I was just a child with no adult supervision. In this case, he was the only adult around to tell me right from wrong. I believe he did the right thing. Should this guy be considered a sex offended because he told me right from wrong?
 
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^^^^no..

society...has created...this...world to kids...to make them think..
every Stranger is bad...
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dont get me wrong...there are some very very Fucked up people out here..
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but for every bad person...there are good people..
i would think..

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2-0-Sixx said:
I think one of the problems these days in America is there is no community. We as a community have no right to help raise/teach/guide/discipline the youth. It’s every man and child for themselves. As soon as somebody comes along and tries to do good, they get sued or convicted of a crime.

I remember when I was about 8 years old I threw a rock at a car window while it was driving. The man stopped the car, ran after me, grabbed me but he didn’t physically hurt me, he just grabbed me and yelled at me for a second, told me how wrong I was for what I did and that someone could have been killed. That shit scared the fuck out of me. The guy didn’t care about his broken window; he was the victim and saw that I was just a child with no adult supervision. In this case, he was the only adult around to tell me right from wrong. I believe he did the right thing. Should this guy be considered a sex offended because he told me right from wrong?
You don't see a difference in THROWING a rock at a moving vehicle, and walking in the path of a vehicle (when pedestrians almost always have the right of way anyway)?

I think those are two COMPLETELY different scenarios. I agree with you about the lack of community; however, putting your hands on a child because YOU almost hit her is NOT justified. He should watch where he's going. It doesn't take much to get a license and drive around a 3thousand pound weapon, he should use it responsibly.

I remember when I was a kid, some friends and I hid behind a wall and shot cap guns at a car. The car stopped, the lady came out and happened to be an off duty police officer with a gun in her car. She explained how she could have thought we had real guns, and we could get seriously injured. She NEVER put her hands on us tho. I agree, that lady had every right to say something because we were doing something stupid; however, a grown man has no business putting his hands on a little girl because HE almost hit her. That's negligence on HIS part.