General William G. "Jerry" Boykin should be shot in the head

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May 13, 2002
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How can we have psycho's like this in office?


"U.S is the army of god!"



Three star general William G. "Jerry" Boykin, deputy undersecretary of Defense for intelligence, is under investigation for suggesting "innovative techniques" for extracting information from Iraqi detainees.

Boykin, an evangelical Christian, appeared in uniform before a religious group last June to state that radical Islamists hate the US "because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christian ... and the enemy is a guy named Satan."

In another venue, the outspoken Boykin said, "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol."



"We in the army of God, in the house of God, kingdom of God have been raised for such a time as this."


Speaking about Bush, Boykin declared: "He's in the White House because God put him there."

Video of Gen Boykin stating the above

In January, 2003, Lt. General Boykin told Baptists in Florida about a victory over a Muslim warlord in Somalia, who had boasted that Allah would protect him from American capture. "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real god and his was an idol," Gen Boykin said.

He also emerged from the conflict with a photograph of the Somalian capital Mogadishu bearing a strange dark mark. He has said this showed "the principalities of darkness. . . a demonic presence in that city that God revealed to me as the enemy".

On the Middle East, Gen Boykin told an Oregon church in June that America could not ignore its Judaeo-Christian roots. "Our religion came from Judaism and therefore [Islamic] radicals will hate us forever."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/17/wboyk17.xml
"We in the army of God, in the house of God, kingdom of God have been raised for such a time as this," Boykin said last year."
 
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General Who Made Anti-Islam Remark Tied to POW Case

By Andrea Shalal-Esa

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Army general under investigation for anti-Islamic remarks has been linked by U.S. officials to the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal, which experts warned could touch off new outrage overseas.


A Senate hearing into the abuse of Iraqi prisoners was told on Tuesday that Lt. Gen. William Boykin, an evangelical Christian under review for saying his God was superior to that of the Muslims, briefed a top Pentagon (news - web sites) civilian official last summer on recommendations on ways military interrogators could gain more intelligence from Iraqi prisoners.


Critics have suggested those recommendations amounted to a senior-level go-ahead for the sexual and physical abuse of prisoners, possibly to "soften up" detainees before interrogation -- a charge the Pentagon denies.


Congressional aides and Arab-American and Muslim groups said any involvement by Boykin could spark new concern among Arabs and Muslims overseas the U.S. war on terrorism is in fact a war on Islam.


"This will be taken as proof that what happened at Abu Ghraib (prison) is evidence of a broader culture of dehumanizing Arabs and Muslims, based on the American understanding of the innate superiority of Christendom," said Chris Toensing, editor of Middle East Report, a U.S.-based quarterly magazine.


One Senate aide, who asked not to be identified, said any involvement by Boykin could be explosive. "Even if he knew about the abuse, that would be a big deal," he said.


Boykin has declined comment, and defense officials could not say what the extent of his involvement or knowledge about the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners might have been.


Boykin touched off a firestorm last October after giving speeches while in uniform in which he referred to the war on terrorism as a battle with "Satan" and said America had been targeted "because we're a Christian nation." He said later he was not anti-Islam or any other religion.


President Bush (news - web sites) distanced himself from Boykin's remarks, but the Pentagon said it would not fire the general, who played a role in the 1993 clash with Somali warlords and the ill-fated hostage rescue attempt in Iran in 1980.


CALLS FOR REASSIGNMENT


Hussein Ibish, communications director for the Arab American Anti-Discrimination Committee, said his group and others had repeatedly called for Boykin to be reassigned to a less sensitive job until the Pentagon inspector general completes his investigation of Boykin's remarks.


Senate Armed Services Committee (news - web sites) Chairman John Warner and congressional Democrats have also urged Boykin to step aside, but the Pentagon has defended his right to free speech.


Defense officials said the IG investigation, begun last fall, was nearly done and a report could be issued next month.


"I'm not saying Boykin is directly responsible. ... But there is a collective failure here," Ibish said. "There is a tolerance in our society, in our government, in our media for hateful rhetoric when directed against Arabs and Muslims.


"It definitely contributes to a climate in which these young MPs apparently felt it was ... OK to abuse Muslim and Arab men like this."


Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American Islamic Relations, chided the Pentagon for not acting promptly to discipline Boykin and the delayed engagement of top military leaders on the prisoner abuse scandal.


"It creates a climate in which ... the perpetrators believe they're carrying out the policies of those above them, whether those policies are explicit or not," Hooper said.



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Thou shalt force the Iraqis into sexual poses. Thou shalt slaughter the Iraqi civilians in god-granted hellfire. Thou shalt not posess much mastery of the English language.

Thats from the book of Bush-Boykin, verses 17-19.
 
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By Douglas Jehl and Eric Schmitt

Republished from The New York Times

Pentagon Seeks to Expand Role in Intelligence-Collecting



The Pentagon is drawing up a plan that would give the military a more prominent role in intelligence-collection operations that have traditionally been the province of the Central Intelligence Agency, including missions aimed at terrorist groups and those involved in weapons proliferation, Defense Department officials say.

The proposal is being described by some intelligence officials as an effort by the Pentagon to expand its role in intelligence gathering at a time when legislation signed by President Bush on Friday sets in motion sweeping changes in the intelligence community, including the creation of a national intelligence director. The main purpose of that overhaul is to improve coordination among the country’s 15 intelligence agencies, including those controlled by the Pentagon.

The details of the plan remain secret and are evolving, but indications of its scope and significance have begun to emerge in recent weeks. One part of the overall proposal is being drafted by a team led by Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin, a deputy under secretary of defense.

Among the ideas cited by Defense Department officials is the idea of “fighting for intelligence,” or commencing combat operations chiefly to obtain intelligence.

The proposal also calls for a major expansion of human intelligence, which is information gathered by spies rather than by technological means, both within the military services and the Defense Intelligence Agency, including more missions aimed at acquiring specific information sought by policy makers.

The proposal is the latest chapter in the fierce and long-running rivalry between the Pentagon and the C.I.A. for dominance over intelligence collection.

White House officials are monitoring the Pentagon’s planning, as is the C.I.A. The proposal has not yet won White House approval, according to administration officials. It is unclear to what extent American military forces have already been given additional authority to carry out intelligence-gathering missions.

Until now, intelligence operations run by the Pentagon have focused primarily on gathering information about enemy forces. But the overarching proposal being drafted in the Pentagon, which encompasses General Boykin’s efforts, would focus military intelligence operations increasingly on counterterrorism and counterproliferation, areas in which the C.I.A. has played the leading role.

“Right now, we’re looking at providing Special Operations forces some of the flexibility the C.I.A. has had for years,” said a Defense Department official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the plan has not yet been approved. “It would be used judiciously, and with all appropriate oversight controls.”

General Boykin’s proposal would revamp military commands to ensure that senior officers planning and fighting wars work more closely with the intelligence analysts tracking threats like terrorists and insurgency cells. Another part of the Pentagon’s plan was articulated in a recent directive by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld that instructed regional commanders to expand the military’s role in intelligence gathering, particularly in tracking terrorist and insurgent leaders.

While declining to comment directly on the recent directive, a Pentagon spokesman, Bryan Whitman, said, “Regional commanders are looking at ways to maximize the use of their resources to contribute to the overall intelligence picture.”

In public allusions to the plan, both General Boykin and Vice Adm. Lowell E. Jacoby, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, have stuck to generalities. It is still unclear how many additional personnel may be assigned to intelligence gathering or when and where such operations may take place. But some intelligence officials say they believe those remarks open the way to more clandestine military operations intended to gather intelligence on terrorists and weapons proliferators.

One former intelligence official questioned the utility of the military’s putting more resources into intelligence collection at a time when it is already stretched thin in dealing with the counterinsurgency in Iraq and addressing threats elsewhere.

“If you’re a shooter, go do that job,” said the former intelligence official, who has opposed efforts by the Pentagon to expand its intelligence-gathering role. “But don’t put the shooter in a pinstripe suit and send him to Beirut to chase bad guys.”

Still, a current intelligence official who works outside the Pentagon described the relationship between the Pentagon and the C.I.A. as “closer than ever,” but he added that “cooperation is strongest in the places where it counts most, like Iraq and Afghanistan.” The official said, “There’s a real sense that there’s plenty of work for everyone.”

General Boykin was traveling abroad and not available for comment this week. Over the last two weeks, he and his top aides have declined repeated interview requests on this subject.

The general provided an overview of the plan in an address in October to the Association of the United States Army, a nonprofit educational organization. Copies of his briefing slides are posted on the group’s Web site.

A synopsis of General Boykin’s plan was provided by Defense Department officials, as were remarks prepared for delivery in a Nov. 15 address by Admiral Jacoby at a conference on military intelligence.

“Our present intelligence collection architecture – optimized to identify and track large conventional forces – is inadequate to warn against these new challenges for terrorists, provide sufficient information on insurgent groups, determine the status of discrete W.M.D. production capabilities, learn the intentions of leaderships from rogue states, or determine friend from foe when intermingled in a foreign country,” Admiral Jacoby said in that speech.

General Boykin, who attracted controversy last year for saying in remarks to Christian groups that Muslims worship “an idol” and describing the battle against Muslim radicals as a fight against Satan, has been the prime architect of the proposal, which has been under review at the Pentagon since January 2004. The general reports to Stephen A. Cambone, who since 2003 has used his newly created post as under secretary of intelligence to assert a role in which he has competed with George J. Tenet, the former director of central intelligence, and his successors for influence over American intelligence agencies.

Among the proposals described by Defense Department officials is a plan to create a Joint Intelligence Operational Command within the Pentagon, which would elevate intelligence to much more power and prominence and possibly replace the Defense Intelligence Agency.

Maj. Gen. Charles W. Thomas, a retired senior Army intelligence officer who has worked as a consultant for General Boykin on his project, said he broadly supported the general’s goals. But he warned that one possible danger in bringing battle commanders and intelligence officials so close together to fight a common enemy was the risk that the intelligence could be skewed to fit the commander’s war plan and not the reality on the ground.

A spokesman for the Special Operations Command in Tampa, Fla., Col. Samuel Taylor, said on Friday that the command had been briefed on an early draft of General Boykin’s remodeling initiative, but that staff officers and senior commanders had not yet reviewed it in depth.

President Bush last month ordered the C.I.A. and the Defense Department to review a plan that could expand the Pentagon’s role in covert operations, perhaps replacing the C.I.A. in providing paramilitary forces for such missions.

The idea of transferring paramilitary authority from the intelligence agency to the military’s Special Operations Forces was among several prominent recommendations made by the Sept. 11 commission.

The proposal remains under review. But in public testimony in August, Mr. Rumsfeld and John E. McLaughlin, who was then the acting intelligence chief, expressed reservations about the idea, and it was not included in the measure Mr. Bush approved on Friday.

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On unrelated news, Nearly half in U.S. say Muslim civil liberties should be restricted LINK
 
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DJ Mark 7 said:
wow....that shit is creepy....Good post

thats what im sayin...knowing our top brass/command are making comments like that DOES MAKE ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE...they are playing into the islamic extremists who are calling this a holy war...fuckin silly Americans...man! our commanders/leaders are fucking dumb!

but its all in the name or "freedom" right?
 
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Mac Jesus said:
the fuck is wrong with you people?
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We are the land of the FREE*


















* Definition of free and freedom varies state by state. All right-wing Christians are exempt to any restrictions. Freedom may cause incarceration, serious injury, death, war, genocide or in some rare cases rectal bleeding. The United States of America is not responsible for any personal misfortunes.
Nice.