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i been wondering why my shit has been slow

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Heavy renters 'throttled' by Netflix tactics

February 12, 2006

BY MICHAEL LIEDTKE

SAN FRANCISCO -- Manuel Villanueva realizes he has been getting a pretty good deal since he signed up for Netflix Inc.'s online DVD rental service 2-1/2 years ago, but he still feels shortchanged.

That's because the $17.99 monthly fee that he pays to rent up to three DVDs at a time would amount to an even bigger bargain if the company didn't penalize him for returning his movies so quickly.

Netflix typically sends about 13 movies per month to Villanueva's home in Warren, Mich. -- down from the 18 to 22 DVDs he once received before the company's automated system identified him as a heavy renter and began delaying his shipments to protect its profits.

The same Netflix formula also shoves Villanueva to the back of the line for the most-wanted DVDs, so the service can send the flicks to new subscribers and infrequent renters.

Company forced to admit policy



The little-known practice, called ''throttling'' by critics, means Netflix customers who pay the same price are often treated differently, depending on their rental patterns.

''I wouldn't have a problem with it if they didn't advertise 'unlimited rentals,' '' Villanueva said. ''The fact is that they go out of their way to make sure you don't go over whatever secret limit they have set up for your account.''

Los Gatos, Calif.-based Netflix didn't publicly acknowledge it differentiates among customers until revising its ''terms of use'' in January 2005 -- four months after a San Francisco subscriber filed a class-action lawsuit alleging that the company had deceptively promised one-day delivery of most DVDs.

''In determining priority for shipping and inventory allocation, we give priority to those members who receive the fewest DVDs through our service,'' Netflix's revised policy reads. It warns that heavy renters are more likely to have delays and less likely to get top choices.

''My own personal experience has not been bad,'' said Nathaniel Irons of Seattle, ''but [throttling] is certainly annoying when it happens.''
 
Aug 26, 2002
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no shit, damn i remeber when my brother was getting movies every other day, shit hella slowed down for us, that shit is like 30+ movie rentals a month before, now we dont get shit until every 2 days. good read and good shit to know.
 
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Tuaroa said:
no shit, damn i remeber when my brother was getting movies every other day, shit hella slowed down for us, that shit is like 30+ movie rentals a month before, now we dont get shit until every 2 days. good read and good shit to know.

Been with them for over 3 years and I have never had a problem. Maybe there hub just sucks? I don't know but I have no probs with them. I have heard more and more probs with blockbuster online than I ever have with netflix.
 
Jun 27, 2002
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yeah ive never had a problem withthem....then again im not runnin a homebased bootleg business and burning 10+ dvds a day....lol...but yeah you gotta expect some limitations on shit
 
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I'm on the 3 DVD at a time program. I have a distribution center in my city. So I should be able to get my 3 DVD's on monday. Burn them and put them in the mail. Netflix should get them Tuesday and ship my next DVD's that day. Then on Wed i should get 3 more in the mail.

That’s how it used to work. That’s the user agreement I signed.

But now my at netflix processing takes longer which can add an extra day to my delivery times. In addition, for new releases I’m automatically at long to very long wait even if I time my DVD’s to be there on the day the movie is released (in days long gone, I would get shipped the new release that day).

I pay my money and feel I should be given the same service I experienced when I started and the same service agreement I originally signed on to.

Saying shit like this is ok is like Wal-mart dicking 20,000 employees, but saying it’s not that big a deal because it’s only a small portion of the work force.
 
Jun 27, 2002
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gimpypimp said:
What a bunch of babies...ooooh...I have to wait an extra day or two. Get out of the house and go do something.
i hate to say it, and i usually dont agree with comments like this...but damn, he's got a point


but on the flipside....if you sign up for one thing and get another...thats bullshit...

but damn..its only a day or two ya'll....


but imagine that same day or 2.....if you was in bed sick wit no movies....or paralyzed....or dying from cancer and just wanted to watch a movie...

ok thats a little much but you get the idea.....

or even worse....imagine that day or two if.....if....you had no life.
 
May 4, 2002
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ive only had a few problems with netflixz and it was because they never recieved a couple dvds back, all i did was report em and that was that....
 
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Yup, they bend me over to. I don't have cable, so at the end of the night when its time for me and Wifey to settle down, we like to pop in a flick...
I sent an email to their customer service, b/c they started slowin' down our service hella when we spent a couple of days to boost our rental queue up to 250 movies... from then on our service swithced from the former scenario CB described to the latter.

In the email, their rep. responded with a statement similar to the strategy stated in the article, or in other words, if you rent a lot you get penalized. I was like WTF, but what can really be done...

Just a few months ago there was a class action law suit on this same issue. The reparations (if you agreed to never file or be part of suit) was that each renter would recieve an extra movie for one month (i.e. if you're on a 2 a month plan for one month you'd get 3, 3 then you get 4 and so on). I was like 1 extra vid for 1 month F*** that... hopefully this'll become another big deal and I'll get some tight compensation. Oh yeah right now we got almost 500 movies in the que...
 
Apr 25, 2002
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SuiPSYedKing said:
Does anyone know if this same foul practice is used by Blockbuster Online????

I don't know for sure, but you can bet if netflix does blockbuster does too.

They could pick up some business if they came out and said they wouldn't and be the anti-netflix
 
May 2, 2002
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Well...I use Netflix...but I only do 1 movie at a time, so I never have a problem.

OK...you signed a deal and you should still get all the new movies or whatever. But shit, 13 movies a month is still alot.

Consider it God's way of saying go out and get a life. Or watch a few of the other 5000 movies you copied for the next day or two.
 
May 3, 2002
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I agree that its wrong for netflix to promise what they did..
they said *UNLIMITED* for the month, but now they changed there Policy.

But the only people that are REALLY complaining are two types of people:

Losers who just watch movies all day 24/7 and have nothing better to do.. and bootleggers who feel that there being ripped off.. yet there stealing the dvds.. hmmm. :paranoid:
 

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^^^exactly, and those people are just trying to rip the company off...it is unlimited, but ur still getting the better end of the deal...try gettin that from someone else.

like dood said before "oh wow, i have to wait another day for my 3 movies that im not gonna watch but instantly burn and then return."

people are so into burning that theyre not like normal people who just watch 3 movies over the course of a few days and then return them.

"oh...my...god...instead of the possible 90 movies per month that i SHOULD HAVE, im gonna have...60! what the fuck?"

it is kinda shady that they do this, but theyre a business, theyve been sued, and they changed their policy. oh well, deal with it.