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Dhadnot said:
No I'm not because I said they should get punished accordingly...but if you care so much about justice and law, why aren't you arguring for tyhe right to be judged by your peers (which the boys didn't recieve)? What that boy and the others who helped in putting up nooses aimed at the blacks, on school property is illegal and considered hate crimes, why aren't you talking about that? All you are talking about is the boys whipping that dude's ass...what about all the blacks and Mexicans who are assaulted everyday and stomped out and shit and the assailants get away with out doing shit, but this whiteboy is special? He didn't have any life threatening wounds, he got beat up cuz he feels he can disrespect a whole race and now 6 non-adults are facing 22 for attempted murder, give me a fuckin break.

I said it before that the hanging of the nooses was WRONG. But does hanging a noose = physical harm. No it doesn't. It's wrong, but it ain't the same as physically harming someone. They should ALL get punished.

Even if he didn't have any life threatning wounds, the fact is that "there could" have been life threating wounds.

I'm not sure if it applies in every state, but there's a law where you take your victim as-is, even the weak, it's called the "Thin-Skull rule." For example, lets say you happened to pick a fight with someone who has a metal plate in his skull or other brain damage that you can't see or don't know about. So you fight him 1 on 1, he dies as a result of you punching his "weak" skull. Your liable for his death, even if you didn't know he had that metal plate or brain damage. It sounds fucked up, but that's the law, you take your victim as-is. It's basically a law to protect the weak.

I see this case as similiar, the whiteboy is the weak because he's by himself vs. 6 other dudes. It's reasonaly foreseeable that death can occur when 6 is on 1. However, considering the racial circumstances that the whiteboy displayed vs. the blacks with the nooses and name calling, I think the punishment for the blacks needs to be lessened. 22 years is definitely rediculous. But my point is, for them to walk away with no punishment, that's wrong. Both parties should be liable. It just seems like everyone wants these kids to go FREE like they didn't do nothing. But the fact is, they did, they commited a violent act. They need to get probabtion, community service or at worse, their sentences shortened.
 
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ON SOME REAL SHIT ... WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE , MEDIA , ATTENTION AND THE THE DUST CLEARS ... IT'S GONNA BE WORST . ICE CUBE WENT ? WHY AIN'T HE BACKIN UP SOME REGULAR KID IN L.A. GOIN' THROUGH THE SAME SHYT ?
 
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See this is the kind of shit people need to be rapping about. Political issues and real shit that's going on in the world, to try to open up peoples eyes and make a difference. Not no fucking bling bling, grillz bull shit.
 
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jaY_eF_eS 1904 said:
ON SOME REAL SHIT ... WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE , MEDIA , ATTENTION AND THE THE DUST CLEARS ... IT'S GONNA BE WORST . ICE CUBE WENT ? WHY AIN'T HE BACKIN UP SOME REGULAR KID IN L.A. GOIN' THROUGH THE SAME SHYT ?
cuz kids in la arent going through the same exact type shit, kids in LA is killin they own race on some fightin over crumbs shit. the shit in jena is on some ol backwards jim crow, pre-civil rights type shit, when whites could practically do what they wanted to minorities.
 
Sep 3, 2002
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This kid who was assaulted had a black eye and left the hospital in three hours? went to a party later that night? What a fuckin' joke, the school should be able to handle that themselves without legal action. Suspend the kids, maybe some community service, anger-classes, probation etc. but these kids don't deserve to do time, or go into debt for a school squable.

Those noose hangers are the ones who need to be made an example of, Lynching was an epidemic in the ealry 1900's. That type of shit CAN NOT be tolerated. On a smaller scale That's like somebody walking into Columbine wearing a trenchcoat and holding a Toy Uzi. That is damaging to that community.

The fucked up thing is that it takes shit this ridiculous to make the world realize how fucked up and behind the south is when it comes to human rights.
 
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Booboo619 this is what someone else posted in response to a forum member on a another board who expressed similar sentiments to yours.



OK let me pick apart your statements bit by bit:

YOUR STATEMENT: "Guess I'm one of the few people who thought these kids actually deserved SOME punishment."

Had the proper action been taken by authorities in the first place, there would have been no retaliation from the Jena 6 in the first place. Let me ask you a question. How many times is it acceptable to you for someone to be a victim of racist terroristic threats, beating, racial taunting, being threatened with a deadly weapon (while authorities turn a blind eye to it) before taking action yourself? Should they have waited until someone was killed? Would you then think they had the right to defend themselves? Let me remind you this was not once isolated incident. And while you may claim that the white kid got beat up after taunting the black kids and not physically threatening them, the taunts were only the straw that broke the camel's back. It is unfair to those who take this stance as it was an accumulation of many crimes committed against them.

YOUR STATEMENT: "The sad part is people are acting as if it's acceptable to counteract ignorance with violence."

No, people are acting as if when the authorities are not protecting citizens whose lives are being threatened, as they are sworn to do, then there comes a point when one must defend themselves. You are greatly minimizing things to call what the white kids did as only "ignorance".

YOUR STATEMENT: "It only helps to reinforce others perceptions of us".

I am assuming by this statement that you are also black, which upsets me even more. Whose perception are you concerned about, people like this?: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/0...remacist-rage/
No reasonablly intelligent righteous person would look at defending oneself (when the authorites won't) as being a negative thing.

YOUR STATEMENT: "The charges that were levied against them were far too harsh, but these aren't 6 little kids who got picked up and railroaded."

They are six minors who were railroaded by a racist DA while the white perpetrators got a slap on the wrist by the school and no criminal charges from the police. Do you remember the remarks from the DA? After doing nothing about the racist terroristic threat of hanging nooses from the white "tree of knowledge", after a peaceful protest of the blacks student who only sat underneath the "white" tree, the DA then decided it was important enough to give it attention and came to the school accompanied by the town's police and demanded that the black students end their protest. He said, "I can be your best friend or your worst enemy... I can take away your lives with a stroke of my pen." Seems he conveniently forgot the criminal acts that precipitated the peaceful protest in the first place.

YOUR STATMENT: "They stomped the shit out of that kid."

I would hardly say they stomped the shit out of him. He was taken down by one punch and kicked a couple times. He was seen at the hospital and released and later that evening attended a social function.

Why no charges when the black kid was beaten up?

How do you arrest someone who takes a gun away from someone who pulls it on them and not charge the person who threatened their lives with the gun at all? And even worse, then charge the victims for taking away the gun!! Had the Jena 6 been truly looking for trouble, they'd have shot that punk right then and there. If anything, we should be applauding the restraint of the Jena 6 after all the BS they went through
 
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BOOBOO619 said:
It's not about that. It's about applying the law. You hurt someone, in the fashion they did (6-1), they all should be accounted for. There's no law of symmpathy. You do illegal actions, you pay for those illegal actions, simple as that. If you don't want to go to jail or prison, then do what's right. You don't have to gang up on someone and beat the shit out of them to get a point across. I do agree that 22 years is HARSH, but all 6 or 7 getting aquitted and out of it clean is not justice. They have to indure some form of punishment for the assualt. You don't just attack someone because they called you a name. Your basically saying it's OK to condone voilence.
haven't they been locked up for about a year?
 
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I would of pleaded temporary insanity

"So I seen the nooses hanging on the tree...and I just blacked out...next thing I know, white dude was on the ground unconscious."
 
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BOOBOO619 said:
I said it before that the hanging of the nooses was WRONG. But does hanging a noose = physical harm. No it doesn't. It's wrong, but it ain't the same as physically harming someone. They should ALL get punished.

Even if he didn't have any life threatning wounds, the fact is that "there could" have been life threating wounds.

I'm not sure if it applies in every state, but there's a law where you take your victim as-is, even the weak, it's called the "Thin-Skull rule." For example, lets say you happened to pick a fight with someone who has a metal plate in his skull or other brain damage that you can't see or don't know about. So you fight him 1 on 1, he dies as a result of you punching his "weak" skull. Your liable for his death, even if you didn't know he had that metal plate or brain damage. It sounds fucked up, but that's the law, you take your victim as-is. It's basically a law to protect the weak.

I see this case as similiar, the whiteboy is the weak because he's by himself vs. 6 other dudes. It's reasonaly foreseeable that death can occur when 6 is on 1. However, considering the racial circumstances that the whiteboy displayed vs. the blacks with the nooses and name calling, I think the punishment for the blacks needs to be lessened. 22 years is definitely rediculous. But my point is, for them to walk away with no punishment, that's wrong. Both parties should be liable. It just seems like everyone wants these kids to go FREE like they didn't do nothing. But the fact is, they did, they commited a violent act. They need to get probabtion, community service or at worse, their sentences shortened.
White people used to kill blacks and walk away clean, innocent blacks might i add...and this has happened countless times, Now try to convince the Southern Black community that these Kids should be locked up with their history of unfair treatment. Logically your point does hold weight, but your not looking at the humanistic angle.