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IGHT SO I GOT AN MPC 2000XL , AND I JUS GOT A YAMAHA MM6, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO RECORD USING THE KEYBOARD, AND USING THE KEYBOARD NOISES IN A SEQUENCE, LIKE LETS SAY I GOT A DRUM LOOP GOIN THAT I DID ON THE MPC, HOW CAN I RECORD THE KEYBOARD AND ITS NOISES ON THE SEQUENCE?
 

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Connect the mpc and the mm6 using MIDI cables. If one of the devices have a LOCAL ON switch within the midi settings set this to OFF. Connect the mm6 to the mixer.

WHICH device do you want to sync as the MASTER? Do you want to record in the mpc sequencer or the mm6 sequencer?
 
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HERESY said:
Connect the mpc and the mm6 using MIDI cables. If one of the devices have a LOCAL ON switch within the midi settings set this to OFF. Connect the mm6 to the mixer.

WHICH device do you want to sync as the MASTER? Do you want to record in the mpc sequencer or the mm6 sequencer?
i wana record in the mpc sequencer

i made a little progress....
i got it so that the mm6 is hooked up to the mixer an so is the mpc, but the mpc is only actin like a midi controller for it, and i cant hear the metronome when recording an stuff like that, like it sequence's and stuff wat i play on the piano, ,i can also bang on the pads and it plays the keyboard voice, but once the mm6 is turned off so are sounds i recorded, so only the midi info is saved but, not the sound, git wat im sayin? i wana noe if its possible to save the sounds along wit the midi info,i wana play the mm6 and its noises thru the mpc
 

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Yes its possible to save the sounds of the mm6. Save the song in its regular format on the mm6 and you should be set. You should have TWO files (both with the same name so it makes it easier.) The first file should be your mm6 file that contains all the sounds, performance mode/kit whatever. You need to load this FIRST. The second file should be a SMF1 file (standard midi file 1) and this is what you'll save on the MPC. You need to load this up SECOND.

Make the appropriate SYNC connections within both units, check the metronome settings and you should be on your way.
 
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D@mn, I'm glad I haven't jumped over to Hardware. Sounds like a bitch just to record sounds from keyboards and input them into another source. Recording MIDI is the easy part of course, but MIDI doesn't record sound. Sounds like you need to hook up that keyboard more along the lines of the RCA input or Line-In input, or something similiar then try to sample the sounds that way. Are they one-shot sounds or more along the lines of a loop/melody? How big is the harddrive space or diskette space on that MPC, does it even have suffient space to save all that audio info? Fock that shit, computers make it hella easy, everything works nicely together.
 

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^^^Stop spreading misinformation. From the looks of things he simply wants to use the keyboard sounds while he records the note information into the mpc. He already knows midi isn't sound, and he already knows he has to connect the keyboard to the mixer so he can play the sounds. And computers have just as many problems if not more because you aren't dealing with a dedicated device. MPC's are designed to do whatever the hell it is mpc's do (sequence/arrange and sample) and computers are designed to do whatever the hell it is they do (used for surfing for porn, pro tools, photo shop, games, dvd ripping, etc.) A computer is still HARDWARE, and software may still conflict with this hardware. Just ask Phil how his pro tools setup was running three months ago and pay attention to his reply.

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HERESY said:
Yes its possible to save the sounds of the mm6. Save the song in its regular format on the mm6 and you should be set. You should have TWO files (both with the same name so it makes it easier.) The first file should be your mm6 file that contains all the sounds, performance mode/kit whatever. You need to load this FIRST. The second file should be a SMF1 file (standard midi file 1) and this is what you'll save on the MPC. You need to load this up SECOND.

Make the appropriate SYNC connections within both units, check the metronome settings and you should be on your way.

OHHH GOT U got u, now i gota another question, is it more difficult to export the song this way wit the mm6 sounds? cuz i jus got my mpc in january, and as of rite now, i have no idea how ima git a finshed song on my mpc onto a cd to be able to listen to, i gota zip drive, can i do wit that somehow?
 
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Filthy_Rich said:
as a side note, how do you like the mm6?
its kooo, for the price it aint bad, its my first synth, so i wanted to git something jus to start me off feel me? theres only like 480 voices, my only complaint is not enuff noises, but they got some koo as noises, im thinkin of pickin up that microx next
 
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HERESY said:
^^^Stop spreading misinformation. From the looks of things he simply wants to use the keyboard sounds while he records the note information into the mpc. He already knows midi isn't sound, and he already knows he has to connect the keyboard to the mixer so he can save the sounds. And computers have just as many problems if not more because you aren't dealing with a dedicated device. MPC's are designed to do whatever the hell it is mpc's do (sequence/arrange and sample) and computers are designed to do whatever the hell it is they do (used for surfing for porn, pro tools, photo shop, games, dvd ripping, etc.) A computer is still HARDWARE, and software may still conflict with this hardware. Just ask Phil how his pro tools setup was running three months ago and pay attention to his reply.
LOL, just saying that so many people seem to have so much d@mn problems with Hardware. I mean cmon, if your just a "BeatMaker" and doing it strictly as a hobby, YTF struggle so much, save yourself headaches, money and just roll with a program like Reason, FL, Sonar,etc... and get yourself some plugins and sample libraries. Yes I know computers are Hardware as well, but they integrate so nicely with peripherals nowadays through USB/Firewire connectivity.
 

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shizzniddel V.S said:
OHHH GOT U got u, now i gota another question, is it more difficult to export the song this way wit the mm6 sounds? cuz i jus got my mpc in january, and as of rite now, i have no idea how ima git a finshed song on my mpc onto a cd to be able to listen to, i gota zip drive, can i do wit that somehow?
Do you have a compueter or a hard disc recorder that you can record to? If you don't have anything you can record to you're S.O.L, and if you have songs that are AUDIO and backed up on your zip disk, you would need to run the OUPUTS of the MPC to the INPUTS of whatever device you are recording to. I suggest you dump it to a computer or hard disk recorder TRACK BY TRACK, and in order to do this you would sync the mpc to the computer or hard disk recorder via midi.

Does the mm6 have its own sequencer? If it does have its own sequencer, and you aren't sampling, I don't see why you need to even use the mpc UNLESS you like playing the mpc pads or feel it has some groove or swing feature that the mm6 doesn't.
 

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BOOBOO619 said:
LOL, just saying that so many people seem to have so much d@mn problems with Hardware. I mean cmon, if your just a "BeatMaker" and doing it strictly as a hobby, YTF struggle so much, save yourself headaches, money and just roll with a program like Reason, FL, Sonar,etc... and get yourself some plugins and sample libraries. Yes I know computers are Hardware as well, but they integrate so nicely with peripherals nowadays through USB/Firewire connectivity.
Who's to say those programs won't conflict with each other? Who's to say they won't cause the computer to wig out?
 
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HERESY said:
Do you have a compueter or a hard disc recorder that you can record to? If you don't have anything you can record to you're S.O.L, and if you have songs that are AUDIO and backed up on your zip disk, you would need to run the OUPUTS of the MPC to the INPUTS of whatever device you are recording to. I suggest you dump it to a computer or hard disk recorder TRACK BY TRACK, and in order to do this you would sync the mpc to the computer or hard disk recorder via midi.

Does the mm6 have its own sequencer? If it does have its own sequencer, and you aren't sampling, I don't see why you need to even use the mpc UNLESS you like playing the mpc pads or feel it has some groove or swing feature that the mm6 doesn't.
yea im sampling, and i like the mpc seqencer ,groove, feel, and swing alot more then the mm6,
so ur sayin ima need sumtin like these? http://www.podcastingnews.com/category/Hard-Disk_Multitrack_Recorders.htm

wat are some good ones at a low price u noe of heresy?
 

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You need something like that or you need a computer to record to. The problem with some of those is some of them have limited exporting features, so if you sell a beat to someone they may have problems importing it, but I think most of those units probably solved that issue. I would check into one of the older roland or yamaha models, but I wouldn't purchase one without first looking into a computer and sound card/interface.

With the hard disk recorders your basically limited in your track count, but it does exactly what it is designed to do. Software wont limit your track count unless you're using a "lite" version like pro tools LE or Cubase SE or Logic whatever the hell it is they have out now.
 
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HERESY said:
You need something like that or you need a computer to record to. The problem with some of those is some of them have limited exporting features, so if you sell a beat to someone they may have problems importing it, but I think most of those units probably solved that issue. I would check into one of the older roland or yamaha models, but I wouldn't purchase one without first looking into a computer and sound card/interface.

With the hard disk recorders your basically limited in your track count, but it does exactly what it is designed to do. Software wont limit your track count unless you're using a "lite" version like pro tools LE or Cubase SE or Logic whatever the hell it is they have out now.
yea the mm6 came wit cubase, but the thing is my computer is downstairs, i got no room down ther, the set up is in my room upstairs, so i think ima look into a hard disc recorder, but chea thanks for ur help heresy ur the fucken man!