Fire Mike Nolan.

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im not argueing how bad or good he is.....im just stating FACT that no coach will come into that franchise and turn it around as quickly as many of you think....as bad as nolan might or might not be it doesnt change the fact that going to the next coach who may or may not be a slight step up isnt going to change the fact that niners dont have a QB, or WRs to throw to.....a high draft pick TE that hasnt panned out....a secondary who might be "talented" bunch but gets beat deep...
 
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the next coach who may or may not be a slight step up isnt going to change the fact that niners dont have a QB, or WRs to throw to.....a high draft pick TE that hasnt panned out....a secondary who might be "talented" bunch but gets beat deep...
The Titans don't have a QB or WRs to throw to. Their defense is not the most talented. Why are they succeeding then?

And the secondary gets beat deep because the QB has all day to throw. Look at any good secondary and you'll see a front 7 that gets pressure on the QB. The Niners get pressure when they blitz. The defense looks good when they have been aggressive this season, so tell me why they're always in prevent mode and never bother to blitz. Who's fault is that? The players? If it works when they do it, why wouldn't you continue doing it? If you're a competent coach you do what works. That's not Mike Nolan. If Nolan got a hold of the Titans' defense they most definitely would NOT be 5-0 since the D is what's winning games for you guys. His soft approach would have your DBs getting roasted too.

Bring in a coach that adjusts to the damn team he's playing and you'll see a completely different team. You act like this team just has a bunch of garbage players but if you watch the games like you claim you do you'd see they can be a good team. Schemes are way more important than you think they are. That's why I find it hard to believe you played football.
 
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how could u say that the titans D is no that talented? id say their front 4 is the most talented in all of football......their LB core is one of the best....saftey duo maybe the most underrated in all the NFL......finn is a beast and harper is servicable

id say titans d is more talented, quicker, younger then most in the nfl......
 
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I said they're not the MOST talented. They play like they are, but they are not.

Nolan can change that in a heartbeat. You gonna try to tell me if your D played the schemes Nolan uses they would be playing as well as they are? Seriously.
 
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people give tons of credit to our d cord...right after the fact that just two years ago we were the 2nd to last defense in the leauge...

we went from 2nd to last to top 5 in one year...no one person is to credit for that....
 
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Since you watch every second of every Niner game, answer this. If your defense played the schemes that Mike Nolan uses, do you really think they would be top 5?

Honestly.

If you say yes I will not continue to debate with you.
 
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dont watch much football huh? i still could easily say i watch more football then anyone on this board....

whether Nolan is THAT big of a deal is yet to be determined...but when you get to the point were its a POSSIBILITY that a coach can be fired midseason its not NEARLY his fault soley...

i just think niner fans are sounding like raider fans here...pointing fingers at a person and ousting em doesnt change the fact that your team isnt going to do much or werent projected to do much...they dont have enough talent at the right spots...mix in a few bad coaching mistakes...the weather...the refs....and you get the niners records....

players and the players playing as a team is what makes the record...coachs/owners/refs/weather bad luck/good luck are all factors.....but the team is soley the biggest factor
mike nolan.....





























........is that you? :ermm:

~k.
 

Meta4iCAL

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IF THE NINERS FIRE MIKE NOLAN THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY IMPROVE.

COMING FROM A RAIDER FAN.

END OF DISCUSSION.
it's true

coaching and play calling has a HUGE impact on football

I think it has more of an impact than it does on other sports... for example baseball and basketball
 
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How, when will ax fall on Nolan?
By Cam Inman
Staff columnist
Article Launched: 10/13/2008 07:05:07 PM PDT
http://www.contracostatimes.com/49ers/ci_10713019?nclick_check=1

EXPLAINING WHY THE 49ers should fire coach Mike Nolan takes longer than one column. We've learned this because that column was written last season.

Thus, we look further down the who-what-where-when-how-and-why spectrum. The most intriguing question is "How?" After the show Al Davis put on exactly two weeks ago at Raiders HQ, coaching changes could be more entertaining than the games by our local juggernauts.

Nolan's fate seems sealed. The 49ers are 2-4 after three straight losses. The defeats get more demoralizing each week. His defense is dead weight, the quarterback play is inferior, and Nolan's game decisions incite verbal riots on sports-talk radio.

The 49ers are headed for more disarray Sunday against the host New York Giants. After a visit from the Seattle Seahawks (and 2009 49ers coaching candidate Mike Holmgren), the 49ers enter their bye week. The Raiders and St. Louis Rams dumped coaches during their bye weeks. The 49ers should, too, unless they win twice and become the 4-4 49ers.

OK, so what will be the exit strategy from the Nolan era?

It's already begun. Think back to January's awkward news conference in which owner John York stripped Nolan of personnel control (aka "The Trigger") and promoted Scot McCloughan to general manager.

Thus, McCloughan, not York, will be the face of the franchise when it's time to drop the guillotine. And so we wonder ...

# Will there be an overhead projector involved? Nobody can top Davis' page-by-page shredding of Lane Kiffin. But don't rule out the 49ers' use of visual aids (see: 2006 unveiling of stadium plans in both San Francisco and Santa Clara).

# Will Nolan vanish in a black van? This harkens back to Steve Mariucci's unjust firing after the 2002 season, when he and his wife left the 49ers facility in a van driven by a team maintenance man. Nolan won't hide. He hasn't so far, and look how bad things have gone.

# Will Nolan escape from New York? Yes, the 49ers will bring him back on their charter jet, just as they did Dennis Erickson after his final game as coach, a 21-7 loss at New England that capped the 2004 season.

# Will the Yorks fire Nolan "for cause," as Davis dismissed Kiffin? There's been no insubordination here. Nolan has been a company man, primarily because he had the run of the company his first three years. Sure, he's had scapegoats (defensive coordinator Billy Davis, offensive coordinator Jim Hostler and, of course, quarterback Alex Smith). But he's never blamed the Yorks, who've given him too many blank checks.

# Will Mike Martz, Mike Singletary or Greg Manusky inform us of Nolan's termination and their subsequent appointment as interim coach? The only way this happens is if McCloughan also gets dismissed (that should not happen), and if the Yorks are busy finalizing those stadium plans (oh yeah, that'll happen).

# Will Martz secretly sell himself to the Yorks as their interim man? Nah, that's too unprofessional. But an eight-game slate would be a worthy tryout for the former St. Louis Rams head coach. Singletary isn't qualified enough as a coach, and Manusky's defense is too soft.

# Will the Yorks dismiss Nolan and launch another prolonged coaching search, at least one that lasts through the bye week? Doubtful. They'd likely promote from within the payroll. Then again, Bill Cowher, Brian Billick, Jim Fassel and Dennis Green are on the lam. Otherwise, the 49ers must wait until season's end to vie for assistants such as Tennessee's Jim Schwartz (runner-up to Nolan in 2005), the Raiders' Greg Knapp (former 49ers coordinator) and the Eagles' Marty Mornhinweg (ex-Lions coach, ex-49ers coordinator). They'd be wise to stay away from college coaches (see: Oklahoma's Bob Stoops and USC's Pete Carroll).

# Will Nolan be devastated? He'll be disappointed, not devastated. This isn't life or death, and this is a man who's attended about as many funerals as 49ers victory celebrations in his tenure here (including the deaths of offensive lineman Thomas Herrion, 49ers icon Bill Walsh and Nolan's father, Dick).

# Will Nolan pave his own exit, aside from the win-loss mark? No. His sleeves were rolled up at Monday's news conference, his steel-eyed determination hasn't wavered and his optimism abounds, even if it's part artificial. He supports Manusky's calls, says Martz has "very good" balance between the run and pass, and the replay-challenge system is also very good "without question."

# Will Nolan actually survive into January before a move is made? This remote possibility hinges on the Yorks' trigger finger, and whether it has a pulse on their disgruntled fan base (and spiraling record).
~k.
 
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Since you watch every second of every Niner game, answer this. If your defense played the schemes that Mike Nolan uses, do you really think they would be top 5?

Honestly.

If you say yes I will not continue to debate with you.

how could you or anyone HONESTLY make an assumption of what another team could do with another coach...with Jim we were 31st and went to 5th..and we stayed in in the top 5 this year.....people were calling for his ass because of the "horrible" job he was doing and then everyone wanted him to be cordinator of the year after last year....
 

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49ers' Nolan doesn't plan to make changes

http://www.sacbee.com/sf49ers/story/1311635.html

SANTA CLARA – Mike Nolan said Monday that he had no big moves in store to jolt the 49ers out of their three-game losing streak.

When the 49ers were struggling in 2006, Nolan curtailed the play-calling powers of then defensive coordinator Billy Davis, who was let go at the end of the season.

In 2007 he brought in Ted Tollner to assist then-offensive coordinator Jim Hostler, who also was fired at the end of the year. Nolan, however, insisted the situation was not as bleak this season. The difference, he said, is that the 49ers actually have had a chance to win.

"It's not as if we've been blown out the last three weeks," he said. "Last year we weren't in games at this time when things like that occurred. Two years prior to that we weren't in the games like this. … If there's anything that's disappointing in these last three weeks, it's that these are games that we felt that we should have won."

One of the biggest questions after Sunday's 40-26 loss to Philadelphia is why offensive coordinator Mike Martz abandoned a running game that had the Eagles' defense staggering in the third quarter. The 49ers handed the ball to Frank Gore just twice, had one first down and finished with minus-2 yards in the final quarter.

Nolan said that the Eagles were only rushing four linemen at the time and the 49ers felt they would have success passing the ball. Entering the game, the plan was to keep the Eagles off balance with a mix of running and passing plays.

"Hindsight is always 20-20," Nolan said. "Looking back on it, it may have been better (to run). But at the same time, we felt we had the pass. We also had, sticking with our game plan, we felt we had them off balance."

Quarterback J.T. O'Sullivan said there was a long list of things that went wrong against Philadelphia, including problems converting on third down and an inability to score touchdowns in the red zone.

O'Sullivan had two fourth-quarter interceptions, one in which he threw into thick coverage in the middle of the field, and another when defensive end Juqua Parker intercepted a quick slant and returned the ball for a touchdown.

O'Sullivan said Monday he was intending to hit Arnaz Battle on the play.

"I should have thrown it to Josh (Morgan) or whoever was playing outside. I think it was Josh," he said.

The 49ers also continue to have problems on defense.

They failed to sack quarterback Donovan McNabb on Sunday, and allowed the Eagles to pick up critical first downs in the second half.

Still, Nolan – who has a large role in constructing the weekly game plans – said he had no plans of reducing defensive coordinator Greg Manusky's play-calling ability.

"There are not a whole lot of calls that I would have changed," Nolan said. "But at the same time, I kind of think like Greg. We're kind of looking for where we can get better. Where is it – where can we also do our part to assist our players?"

The 49ers' next game is against the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants in East Rutherford, N.J., where they were handed a brutal 33-15 loss last year. If the losing streak continues, Nolan certainly will start fielding more questions about his own job status.

On Monday, he said he hadn't had any conversations with John or Jed York on the subject.

Said Nolan: "I have not had any conversations whatsoever about anything other than just trying to win games."
 

PoLLo LoC831

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Will Nolan Ever Take Responsibility?
http://cohn.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=2271290

Mike Nolan always has an excuse.

It's like some kind of mental block with the guy. He never takes responsibility for anything. Sure, he says he takes responsibility -- all sports people say that but they don't mean it. It's either he had his headset off or the play call was brilliant but the players screwed up or he didn't know the rule or the officials incorrectly charged him with a timeout or the Niners' record is a still-hopeful 2-4 and there are plenty of winnable games out there -- really? -- or when writers really pin him down in press conferences he commences to babble, to speak some language that sounds like English but isn't.

As reader Gary in Santa Rosa pointed out the coach is supposed to know the rules backward and forward. You get the feeling Nolan gets confused at crucial times, it's like a door slams shut in his brain. And he is incapable of changing his behavior. That's the other part of never taking responsibility -- because you never do anything wrong you don't have to change.

I like Nolan as a guy. I really do. But I think he gets between himself and winning. And if he ultimately fails, as seems likely, you wonder what John York was thinking about when he hired Nolan. You wonder about this franchise. Who's going to take responsibility for it?
 
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how could you or anyone HONESTLY make an assumption of what another team could do with another coach...with Jim we were 31st and went to 5th..and we stayed in in the top 5 this year.....people were calling for his ass because of the "horrible" job he was doing and then everyone wanted him to be cordinator of the year after last year....
Forget it.

I guess if you don't get it you just don't get it.

I'll leave you alone now.