Fence Dividing West Bank
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Your confused! The palastinians are being attacked on a daily basis. The palastinians are having there homes raided at night every week. The palastinians are the ones being oppressed.
no it isnt, they have offered several times at Oslo, Camp David and now as part of the Bush road map to give back 90% of the lands in the disputed areas and to allow the creation of a separate palistinian state.
on the other hand it is the palistinians (who are really jordanians) and other arabs who want to complete extinction of Israel. that is why they teach their toddlers to hate all christians and jews no matter what.
The blame falls on both sides when you look at it.
The Palestinians feel that they've been invaded, so they commit the evil act of targetting Isreali civilians.
Then Isreal responds overzealously.
Both are just as guilty....
Fuckers act like children who cannot get along....
While children themselves are the ones truly suffering.
Fucking assholes!
The Palestinians feel that they've been invaded, so they commit the evil act of targetting Isreali civilians.
Then Isreal responds overzealously.
Both are just as guilty....
Fuckers act like children who cannot get along....
While children themselves are the ones truly suffering.
Fucking assholes!
Road map to peace? Give me a brake! Lets build a wall that divides Palestinian areas into ghettos in the West Bank. Great Plan!
If they want to build a wall let them build it on the 1967 border
NO, palistinians only kill themsleves and others becuase they have been oppressed for so long. Palistinians are being slaughtered every year by the Isreali army. Don't make me post articles/pictures/stats/websites, cuz you'll get destroyed...Again.
If they want to build a wall let them build it on the 1967 border
NO, palistinians only kill themsleves and others becuase they have been oppressed for so long. Palistinians are being slaughtered every year by the Isreali army. Don't make me post articles/pictures/stats/websites, cuz you'll get destroyed...Again.
Hate to say it, but Bush has gotten farther than any other recent president in getting the two sides to actually sit down and talk. The "road map to peace" may seem like a joke, but it's the farthest "peace" has gone in a while.
Both sides hate eachother. They have since Abrahim and Issiac. Depending who's side you're on, the other side is always wrong. Blowin eachother up for land disputes and such. But it is true, the Palestinians have been offered "their" land back on more than one occasion. And they do have a special tendancy to blow innocent people up on busses, and say, pizza parlors with a bomb (added shrapnel for more mangling) strapped to their chest, and that includes women and children doing this. At least the Israelis use their army. (given both sides DO have "terrorist" armies - Hamas, etc...)
Both sides hate eachother. They have since Abrahim and Issiac. Depending who's side you're on, the other side is always wrong. Blowin eachother up for land disputes and such. But it is true, the Palestinians have been offered "their" land back on more than one occasion. And they do have a special tendancy to blow innocent people up on busses, and say, pizza parlors with a bomb (added shrapnel for more mangling) strapped to their chest, and that includes women and children doing this. At least the Israelis use their army. (given both sides DO have "terrorist" armies - Hamas, etc...)
i bet you can find a ton of things if you have the time.
me personally i dont have that much time on my hands right now but believe me, i too, if i decided to look things up, can also find a ton of pictures and articles of innocent women and children getting blown up in buses, malls, stores, restaurants and other public places by palistinians and the terrorist organizations like
1. HAMAS
2. PALISTINIAN JIHAD
3. AS-AQSA MARTYRS BRIGADE
4. ISLAMIC JIHAD
AND I CAN GO ON AND ON. many of these organizations have stated that their goal is the complete extermination of Israel.
me personally i dont have that much time on my hands right now but believe me, i too, if i decided to look things up, can also find a ton of pictures and articles of innocent women and children getting blown up in buses, malls, stores, restaurants and other public places by palistinians and the terrorist organizations like
1. HAMAS
2. PALISTINIAN JIHAD
3. AS-AQSA MARTYRS BRIGADE
4. ISLAMIC JIHAD
AND I CAN GO ON AND ON. many of these organizations have stated that their goal is the complete extermination of Israel.
Israel imposes 'racist' marriage law
Palestinian-Israeli couples will be forced to leave or live apart
By Justin Huggler in Jerusalem
01 August 2003
Israel's Parliament has passed a law preventing Palestinians who marry Israelis from living in Israel. The move was denounced by human rights organisations as racist, undemocratic and discriminatory.
Under the new law, rushed through yesterday, Palestinians alone will be excluded from obtaining citizenship or residency. Anyone else who marries an Israeli will be entitled to Israeli citizenship.
Now Israeli Arabs who marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip will either have to move to the occupied territories, or live apart from their husband or wife. Their children will be affected too: from the age of 12 they will be denied citizenship or residency and forced to move out of Israel.
Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch sent a joint letter to the Knesset, Israel's parliament, urging members to reject the bill. "The draft law barring family reunification for Palestinian spouses of Israeli citizens is profoundly discriminatory," Amnesty said in a statement. "A law permitting such blatant racial discrimination, on grounds of ethnicity or nationality, would clearly violate international human rights law and treaties which Israel has ratified and pledged to uphold."
B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights organisation, joined in the criticism of the law. Yael Stein, a spokesman, said: "This is a racist law that decides who can live here according to racist criteria."
Some Israelis believe they are sitting on a demographic time bomb, with an Israeli Arab community, already 20 per cent of the population, growing faster than the Jewish population.
The discrimination is not only against Palestinians, according to human rights groups, but against Israel's own 1.2 million citizens of Palestinian origin as well. The overwhelming majority of Israelis who marry Palestinians are the so-called Israeli Arabs - Palestinians who live in Israel and have Israeli citizenship.
"This bill blatantly discriminates against Israelis of Palestinian origin and their Palestinian spouses," said Hanny Megally of Human Rights Watch. "It's scandalous that the Government has presented this bill, and it's shocking that the Knesset is rushing it through."
The government pushed the vote through at speed, even agreeing to consider it a vote of confidence to get it through. It was passed by 53 votes to 25, with one abstention.
Gideon Ezra, a cabinet minister, said: "This law comes to address a security issue. Since September 2000 we have seen a significant connection, in terror attacks, between Arabs from the West Bank and Gaza and Israeli Arabs."
Since 1993, more than 100,000 Palestinians have become Israeli citizens through marriage, Mr Ezra said. But B'Tselem pointed out that only 20 of those 100,000 have been involved in suicide bombings or other militant attacks. Human rights groups said security concerns could not justify the new law, which amounts to collective punishment. Noam Hoffstater, another spokesman for B'Tselem, said: "Those who voted for the bill and those who support it are making a very cynical use of security arguments to justify it, even though they used no data. This in fact was a cover for the real reason, which is the racist reason, the demographic reason."
Many on Israel's right fear that it will be impossible to maintain Israel's identity as an officially Jewish state if the Arab sector becomes too large.
"Today I lost hope," Sa'id abu Muammar, an Israeli Arab, told Reuters news agency. He has been hiding his Palestinian wife from the police since their marriage a year ago. "This is what we've been doing and this is probably what we will have to continue to do."
Palestinian-Israeli couples will be forced to leave or live apart
By Justin Huggler in Jerusalem
01 August 2003
Israel's Parliament has passed a law preventing Palestinians who marry Israelis from living in Israel. The move was denounced by human rights organisations as racist, undemocratic and discriminatory.
Under the new law, rushed through yesterday, Palestinians alone will be excluded from obtaining citizenship or residency. Anyone else who marries an Israeli will be entitled to Israeli citizenship.
Now Israeli Arabs who marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip will either have to move to the occupied territories, or live apart from their husband or wife. Their children will be affected too: from the age of 12 they will be denied citizenship or residency and forced to move out of Israel.
Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch sent a joint letter to the Knesset, Israel's parliament, urging members to reject the bill. "The draft law barring family reunification for Palestinian spouses of Israeli citizens is profoundly discriminatory," Amnesty said in a statement. "A law permitting such blatant racial discrimination, on grounds of ethnicity or nationality, would clearly violate international human rights law and treaties which Israel has ratified and pledged to uphold."
B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights organisation, joined in the criticism of the law. Yael Stein, a spokesman, said: "This is a racist law that decides who can live here according to racist criteria."
Some Israelis believe they are sitting on a demographic time bomb, with an Israeli Arab community, already 20 per cent of the population, growing faster than the Jewish population.
The discrimination is not only against Palestinians, according to human rights groups, but against Israel's own 1.2 million citizens of Palestinian origin as well. The overwhelming majority of Israelis who marry Palestinians are the so-called Israeli Arabs - Palestinians who live in Israel and have Israeli citizenship.
"This bill blatantly discriminates against Israelis of Palestinian origin and their Palestinian spouses," said Hanny Megally of Human Rights Watch. "It's scandalous that the Government has presented this bill, and it's shocking that the Knesset is rushing it through."
The government pushed the vote through at speed, even agreeing to consider it a vote of confidence to get it through. It was passed by 53 votes to 25, with one abstention.
Gideon Ezra, a cabinet minister, said: "This law comes to address a security issue. Since September 2000 we have seen a significant connection, in terror attacks, between Arabs from the West Bank and Gaza and Israeli Arabs."
Since 1993, more than 100,000 Palestinians have become Israeli citizens through marriage, Mr Ezra said. But B'Tselem pointed out that only 20 of those 100,000 have been involved in suicide bombings or other militant attacks. Human rights groups said security concerns could not justify the new law, which amounts to collective punishment. Noam Hoffstater, another spokesman for B'Tselem, said: "Those who voted for the bill and those who support it are making a very cynical use of security arguments to justify it, even though they used no data. This in fact was a cover for the real reason, which is the racist reason, the demographic reason."
Many on Israel's right fear that it will be impossible to maintain Israel's identity as an officially Jewish state if the Arab sector becomes too large.
"Today I lost hope," Sa'id abu Muammar, an Israeli Arab, told Reuters news agency. He has been hiding his Palestinian wife from the police since their marriage a year ago. "This is what we've been doing and this is probably what we will have to continue to do."