fantom-x help!!

[TUNEZ_PWP]

what up i had a few questions
right now i have my fantom-x6 hooked up to my mpc2000xl and mo phatt and motiff racks but i keep gettin some problems
now the motiff and mophatt are running on B
but for some reason when i select a B bank
i hear the fantom sound playing on top of the motiff or mophatt if i turn down the volume on the fantom problem solved but its still playing the fantom track that i sequenced earlier obviouslly not a problem thats a good thing just thought it was wierd
2nd problem is when i hit stop on the mpc next time i press play all the fantom sounds get reseted back to piano i know thats somewhere in program change i hit off but it still does it
im not too familiar with the fantom cuz i just got it now i would look in the instructions but i cant obtain them untill tuesday so i was just hoping i could get a anwser sooner its probablly somethin hella simple and stupid i overlooked lol

 

[TUNEZ_PWP]

wow nobody knows shit?lol

 

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[Vince V.]

I don't think you're midi is setup right. You have to turn the local control on the Fantom off if you're sequencing with the mpc. I would turn all the prog. Changes off too. you shouldn't be hearing the Fantom if it's on A and you have the B channels selected on the MPC. That just sounds like it's routed wrong. Fantom In and Out to the MPC A out and In. Motif out to the in on B, Mo phatt In to the Thru on the Motif. I had that setup a while ago., It should work.

 

[TUNEZ_PWP]

hmmm ill double ceck but i think thats how exactlly i have it runnin and yes i turned program change off maybe its a glitch or somethin

 

[TUNEZ_PWP]

ok everything works now other then i still here the fantoms sounds layered on top of the mophatt or motiff and if i turn its volume down its cuts out all the fantom sounds i played this shit pisses me also it sounds airplaned when i play the fantom sound(airplaned to me means like its playing the sound twice so it sounds like theres a wierd effect on iyt)

 

[Vince V.]

yeah, you got a midi loop somewhere. I know exactly what you're talking about. It has a flanged effect when you play it from the keyboard . But if you hit the pads on MPC it's ok.

I'm tellin you check the connects and turn all the program stuff off in the fantom, not just the program change. There's alot of things in the midi menu, just go thru em. .

 

[TUNEZ_PWP]

thank yee

 

[HERESY]

what up i had a few questions
right now i have my fantom-x6 hooked up to my mpc2000xl and mo phatt and motiff racks but i keep gettin some problems now the motiff and mophatt are running on B
but for some reason when i select a B bank
i hear the fantom sound playing on top of the motiff or mophatt if i turn down the volume on the fantom problem solved but its still playing the fantom track that i sequenced earlier obviouslly not a problem thats a good thing just thought it was wierd
2nd problem is when i hit stop on the mpc next time i press play all the fantom sounds get reseted back to piano i know thats somewhere in program change i hit off but it still does it
im not too familiar with the fantom cuz i just got it now i would look in the instructions but i cant obtain them untill tuesday so i was just hoping i could get a anwser sooner its probablly somethin hella simple and stupid i overlooked lol

I have a couple of questions for you:


1. Have you adjusted your RX settings? RX=RECEIVE SWITCH. Let's say you have bass on track/part 4 of the fantom, strings on track/part 9 of the fantom and a gm snare on track/part 15. If you want to hear the motif sounds (and not layered) you're going to have to turn the RX to OFF on the channels you DON'T want to hear it on. So what channels you don't you want to hear it on? Track/part 4 9 and 15? why? Because you already recorded on those track/parts and you want to hear those sounds.




2. I didn't know the fantom x had a local control. Have you been able to find it? From what I've seen it doesnt implement this in the os but uses something else.



3. I don't quite get your set up. The MPC is your master correct? You have the Fantom x going to the mpc A correct? You have the motif and mo phat going to the mpc B correct? If this sounds about right let me know.

 

[Vince V.]

On the fantom S the local switch is under
Menu/sound. I'm pretty sure it's the same on the X. You shouldn't have to turn off any of the channels on the Fantom because it's the only one on A. But you will have to split up the tracks on the Mo Phatt and Motif. If that local switch isn't off that's your problem.
Another thing too, Go to the perf. list in the mix window and load the prst.01, seq. template. Don't use the preloaded shit.

 

[HERESY]

No the fantom-X does not have it's own Local Switch. What it has is Receive Switch and Keyboard Switch. The Keyboard switch is basically the local and transmit grouped into one.


If he's playing the motif sounds from the fantom he should make sure no part has the same receive channel as another one would. What he should do is use Receive Switch to mute parts he wants the motif or mo phat to come through on and leave the Keyboard Switch on for those parts.


Now all of this is based on connecting the motif/mo phat to the fantom with the fantom as controller.


After doing a bit of digging around (like the original poster should have done ) i came across this on the fantom website:




No, there is no way to prevent the Fantom-X from sending those external messages if the Kb switch is ON. However, you can turn the Mute switch ON for the Parts which you do not wish to sound when you press keys on the keyboard. Only the Part with Mute turned OFF will sound but when you select a Performance, all the Bank Select and Program Change messages for all the Parts with the Keyboard switch ON will be sent. Mute can easily be accessed from the Performance Mixer screens by pressing F3 (Mute) and using the dynamic pad bank pads to turn Mute ON or OFF for each of the 16 Parts (each pad represents a Part). You can thus quickly un-mute many Parts at a time by using this Mute ON/OFF function. It is still not possible to NOT send MIDI data from a Part with the Keyboard switch turned ON, even if Mute is ON. Roland SERIOUSLY needs to add a Transmit Switch for each Part. The Rx switch is there, the Local switch is there (i.e. the Keyboard switch), but there's no damn Tx switch!



I've NEVER heard of a workstation with this type of midi implementation. I own an xp-60 and it's easy as hell to send messeges. Same with all my other workstations (however they arent roland). BTW this seems to be a fantom x issue not the fantom s.


Vince V good lookin out on helpin this cat.



:hgk:

 

[TUNEZ_PWP]

fuck im so lost this isnt even funny this fantom is pissing me off there is a local but if you turn it off no sounds play fuck it im taking all my shit back to santa rosa and gonna figure it out there