Education and Bragging rights

[XianeX]

Everybody can get money that's a given, everybody can get shtuff.

But not everybody can survive the academic hustle. It is a sad thing that Niggas put more emphasis on shit that depreciates but never on shit that appreciates and has the capacity to get you a lotta shit.

I'm beginning to really loathe niggas for real. I can show a nigga my CD and they eyes gleam with both impression and envy, but if afterward I showed that same nigga my degrees he'd be like "ugh" and so what, even deeper a nigga would look down on the CD. LMFAO.

I die laughing at how niggas minds are warped by the game. I miss the days of KRS-1 and when it was cool to be smart and a rapper.

now if it aint crunk i.e. niggas being violent stupid and degenerate niggas aint feeling it.

Its funny how muthafukas wanna make you feel ashamed of being educated/smart. Now I feed into the shit. I'm on some "fuck you nigga I got 4 degrees bitch" type of shit.

I wonder how many muthafuckas I'd make mad If I put out a single with a crunk beat and a hook like:

"fuck you, I'm eatin wheaties smokin bidis/
I got four degrees and still sellin rap CDs"

That would be some funny shit.

I'm reminded of that episode on jenny jones with the dude talking about throwin koolaid and fried chicken on niggas in the crowd.

I guess you only got two choices in this rap shit. be a fool that risks gettin shot everyday trying to be hard/famous to sell to niggas, or a nigga that handles his B.I. like a professional and sell to white and japanese cats and live to enjoy success.

fuck what I'm talkin bout though. . . . light ya blunts and get high. I'm just rantin and ravin

 

[TOKZTLI]

I wonder how many muthafuckas I'd make mad If I put out a single with a crunk beat and a hook like:

"fuck you, I'm eatin wheaties smokin bidis/
I got four degrees and still sellin rap CDs"

That would be some funny shit.

Do it, I'll buy several copies and give them to certain people I know.

 

[Junebug]

Very true. College seems like an unattainable goal for some and people hate because they can't go. Even if you don't go to school and are reading a book at the park or something people are like "what the hell are you doing? let's smoke or play ball"
Only rappers I know with a college degree is: one or both cats from 3rd bass, Young MC, and Paris.

 

[lErK]

Fuck school.

 

[MOSA]

yeah I agree an education is a must....pimpin on a insecure ugly chic aint hard, sellin drugs isn't hard, going against everybody to live how YOU WANT to live and not accomodate the status quo isn't easy...but there are a lot of bitches running around and I am not just talking about females

 

[The Duke of Earl]

just tell em go head an be proud to be ignorant

 

[HERESY]

Welcome to the REAL world. It's cool to be dumb.

 

[XianeX]

Do it, I'll buy several copies and give them to certain people I know.

please don't tempt me. I'm a fool. I'll make the shit and put it on my website LMFAO!

Welcome to the REAL world. It's cool to be dumb.

Ain't that the truth.

@junebug - I "heard" that Master P has a business degree and Ice Cube has a degree in something.

basically that means like maybe 5 "prominent" rappers are educated and the other ones that are are either WAY underground or EXTRA old school.


Yeah status quo is a muthafuka. I can't front like I never had that lifestyle of hopin chic to chic and gettin fucked up all the time but damn, I get bored easy and being an idit get expensive FOR REAL!

When you're budgeting club money versus liquor and weed money oh and munchie snacks It's time for a change.

"REAL world" this man's sense of humor is priceless. The funny thing is I don't think he was being funny because the more you look around you that's what the real world is. a bunch of stupid muthafukas trying to be the best stupid muthafuka that looks like someone that ain't.

I guess you can say:

be status quo and chase status symbols or be extraordinary and actually achieve status.

that's pretty much all I see. I've been kicking it in the projects as of late and I was amazed to find a new lexus SUV out there. I got hella confused. At first I thought it belonged to a visitor. When I found out the owner lived there I thought she was out of her mind. come to find out she's fuckin everybody in the hood. she basically uses the vehicle as a way to make her more important than the other hoes.

on the other hand dudes do the same thing, got a piece of shit job, got a system and rims and can barely afford to keep gas in the car. either living with a bitch or his moms.

Something that Ras Kass said on Soul on Ice "know the ledge and still jump like geronimo" or like my pops says "stuck on stupid".

Even on some bullshit peep the advantage of education. You get a real career around professional chics that may be hoes too but they support themselves and they carry themselves like the notches they may be.

me personally I'd rather fuck with a top notch professional chic that may be a slut than the bottom notch professional hoe that looks like a diva. Just me.

or you got a job that affords you to buy the bullshit that broke dude has and if you do it, it doesn't hurt you, it's just a novelty.

The state of the game is making will smith tight to me. LOL. half the niggas in my city dress like mike jones. tshirts and throwbacks. how can you consider yourself a rebel, a gangsta, or rider and you're a clone of everyone else around you?

I've always known G's to be individuals and original. Why is it nowadays all the G's look alike and do the same thing. I won't get into all the 50 Cent and Game look alikes I see around here as well.

I can talk about it all day but the cycle continues. Such is the game.

 

[MOSA]

you wanna know what's funny is that everybody is always speaking on "GAME" ...but the funny thing is that they don't realize it till the end that the "GAME " wins all the time..THEY think they get a head because now (present) they can afford the things that they wan't and get what they wan't ...but let's fastforward 20-30 years later and what are they getting then???...nothing but welfare checks...So this "Game" that everyone is trying to get into and flash the life style thing that's going to screw them in more ways then one.

Don't even get me started on these hoodrats..that's a whole new diffrent story.


you know everybody in life does stupid things at one time ot another..but THE BIG DIFFRENCE is that you corrected your mistakes..you realized that they way you had lived was wrong.

 

[lErK]

I still say fuck school..

 

[XianeX]

@lerk . . . your point is??? I don't mind you contributing to the discussion, but I don't get your point. fuck school for what?

Personally I HATE school. I never wanted to go to school I did everything I could to avoid it. once I figured out that I was kicking against a brick I changed my swag up. so yeah fuck school. but what's the reason you say it? I say it because it's expensive as hell it locks me into an obligation to fed money and the behavior models suggested by it. But that's with anything, you WILL conform to something either to money or poverty there isn't much of a choice.

I'm like this fuck school when you're done and you've beat it. otherwise you just talking shit. I'll put it like this I'VE FUCKED School. ~3.5 GPA for my academic career 4 degrees into the game. You have the justification to say fuck school when you've slipped through the loop. Otherwise you're akin to sayin I hate that bitch cuz I can't get with her. Feel me, If I've fucked I can say the pussy wasn't shit, she smell like fish and she ugly. But If I've never hit how can I say those things.

lerk I'm not saying you haven't done school I don't know your background like that. but say something pertinent elsewise i'm forced to speculate.

much . . . !

 

[Unkut Yola]

FUCK SCHOOL IF YOU CAN, ANTI-CONFORMITY IS THA SHIZNIT, THATS HOW I SEE IT... IF YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK FASHO, ITS DO-ABLE, i wouldn't doubt it i know plenty of successful highschool dropouts who have nice lives vs. hella college graduates on anti-deppressants who r still depressed...

i dunno... whatever floats your boat, its yours so keep wtf you want to sailing long as u can stay afloat, thats how i see it.

AND @ MOSA when u say "GAME" that people R getting into. Do you speak of the rap game? dope game? or sumthin totally lef field? jus curious...

i'm tryinna get into this rap "game" and i think if u can treat it like a business rather a childish lil gain of fame and fortune and INVEST your money into sumthin thats gonna INvest more money so profit from i think you can be a success, whether you do it on tha side with other hustles or as a career... you dont have to retire old n broke because you aint know how to act wit a lil money jus because all the COOL rappers are iced up and illiterate... lol

if i get anywhere wit this shit hafway major i'm takin any kinda fame and shinin it on anything else i got goin on... look at paul wall... that fool makes grills.... perfect typa shit fo a rapper he can advertise that in his music and its big in hip hop (gold/platinum/daimond teeth) i dunno what cuz's situation is but that sounds like a smart ass move tho ... tho im sure he went to school to do that shit, but point being you dont have to stick wit tha same shit you can expand your horizon as long as u got money...


no sleep, hopefully i made sense :devious:

 

[XianeX]

In upper-white america school is conformity. In the hood no school is conformity. Niggas rather hustle harder not smarter for the sake of feeling like a hustler.

Honestly, you CAN completely circumvent school if you come up with the right business in the right market and handle things correctly. but how often is that the case. You definitely can't get rich with a square job only. I'd like to meet anyone that has had a successful life and is more than content with "just" a day job working for someone else.

few entrepreneurs succeed on their first endeavor, but I think the lack of ambition is whats wrong with most niggas.

 

[Stealth]

I can show a nigga my CD and they eyes gleam with both impression and envy, but if afterward I showed that same nigga my degrees he'd be like "ugh" and so what, even deeper a nigga would look down on the CD. LMFAO.

A little something I wrote a few months back:

Now you're thinkin that I probably ain't a bad dude
Just cuz I got my life on track, goin out to grad school
But this ain't gangsta rap, this is hip hop shit
I don't need to grab a clip to leave your lips locked, bitch

etc.

I dunno, just reminded me of what you were sayin. I always think to myself "yeah, I have some flows, but fuck pursuing it, because i'm going to get a PhD and be a doctor, and the only doctors that make money in the rap game are Dr. Dre and Mr. Doctor." I agree though - fools with definately look down on you like you're weak/not hard/not "down" if you have an education. They think - you dont know the grind, you've never done anything respectable, and if you rap, everything you're saying is straight bullshit.

Pisses me off - but that's how it is. Rappers now a days are revered by kids, like they're role models for their image, not for their message. How many little kids are like "I wanna be down like 2Pac when I grow up"? Probably a lot. How many of them are like "I wanna be smart like Talib Kweli when I grow up?"

 

[XianeX]

"yeah, I have some flows, but fuck pursuing it, because i'm going to get a PhD and be a doctor, and the only doctors that make money in the rap game are Dr. Dre and Mr. Doctor."up?"

LMFAO exactly! and they ain't close to being a doctor of anything.

Revered by kids, huh? you're right. which is kinda wack. I'm reminded of the Lox CD where dude said "I get respect from preschool nigga". Realla shit. I had been in a few discussions lately about how I'd get more love in the hood if I was on some str8 gully shit. I was "If tomorrow I go out and just beat some niggas ass for nothing I'd prolly be on my re-up next week". Funny thing is I've done all the shit that most rappers talk about but I don't glorify it. I still believe in the CB4 theroy of rap. I can't stand how being real translates into being really stupid not really clever.

My album talks about of much of the bullshit as well, but I tried to balance my artistry with what sales. amazingly the songs that people like the most are the songs that depart form what's common and what's "typically" tight.

This rap shit is like WWE. Look at 50 and Game. if you break it down to market academics they've pegged each others sales to each other like currency in the exchange market. their so called "beef" is merely pepsi and coke's competitive alliance to balance their market share and positions. look at billboard when ones sales goes up so does the other because truthfully people are going out and buying both their CDs to do comparison not buyin one over another (coke/pepsi taste tests in the 80s).

I've been doing well not participating in the hype and bullshit, but temptation is rising. If I ws more concerned about fame than exposing my music and getting paid I'd already be releasing a plethora of mix-tape styled beef records against every nigga rappin in my city. It's too easy and too risky. rap is less about content and art as it is image and gossip nowadays.

It's maybe why I've been more interested in the backend of the game than the performing artist end.

 

[Formaldehyde Rx]

Here it is. Its the same for white red brown yellow and black, they hate because they cant duplicate. Its envy and since they have no prospect of advancement they chastise you for rising above your "place".

 

[Stealth]

Xianex - it sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and you're more worried about saying something real and true, leaving your legacy behind and doing something with meaning to you. Its that kind of attitude that might ensure you never make it big in the rap game. But at least you can be proud of yourself and your convictions when you hit the pillow every night.

My album talks about of much of the bullshit as well, but I tried to balance my artistry with what sales. amazingly the songs that people like the most are the songs that depart form what's common and what's "typically" tight.

I know for me, and a lot of other people, an album might be good - but its that deep/meaningful song that turns us on to the artist, or makes us buy the album, or makes us relate, or whatever else. Look at what "Dear Mama" did for 2Pac. Or "All That I Got is You" from Ghostface. Real shit - real emotion - feeling - something people can relate to.

 

[XianeX]

Exactly!

 

[SocialResponsibility]

people with degrees make more money and are more successful than those without it. that is a proven stat. there are exceptions, but on the whole, people saying schools are for suckers are the suckers themselves, and only say it cuz they probably barely couldnt make it out of high school...the world is tough, good luck to those trying to make a living out there without a formal education, some might succeed, alot more than that wont.

 

[MOSA]

@UNKUT- Drugs and Hoes..The music business can be a waste of your time also IF your not dedicated and about your shit...The music hustle is something that your really have to wan't eat and breath it...there are waaaaaaaaaay to many people wanting to get into the same arena ...but If you do your shit right then ..you can get lucky!