Ebay soon to be removing the shipping insurance option....
- Thread starter layziemarv
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Only applies if...
This only applies if you use eBay's insurance program. I never used their program/checkout with insurance option. I just stick to using "Registered Mail". I've never bought insurance via eBay or any other means, unless I was asked to and compensated for doing so by the buyer. I don't need insurance as long as I can prove that the package arrived.
As a buyer I never purchased it either, unless it was something that was very fragile and worth a lot of money.
I'm not really tripping on eBay's new no insurance policy. It doesn't apply to me. Never seen the point.
On another note though. I am tired of eBay with many other things.
I am happy that DSR/5 Star Ratings from anybody outside of the U.S. won't count for or against the sellers anymore. Only U.S. customers DSR/5 Star Ratings will count. Of course this change is so eBay can pad their books on reliable sellers, but nonetheless, I think that they are making a good move in the right direction.
I'm real happy about that change. It's probably the only change that I like.
This only applies if you use eBay's insurance program. I never used their program/checkout with insurance option. I just stick to using "Registered Mail". I've never bought insurance via eBay or any other means, unless I was asked to and compensated for doing so by the buyer. I don't need insurance as long as I can prove that the package arrived.
As a buyer I never purchased it either, unless it was something that was very fragile and worth a lot of money.
I'm not really tripping on eBay's new no insurance policy. It doesn't apply to me. Never seen the point.
On another note though. I am tired of eBay with many other things.
I am happy that DSR/5 Star Ratings from anybody outside of the U.S. won't count for or against the sellers anymore. Only U.S. customers DSR/5 Star Ratings will count. Of course this change is so eBay can pad their books on reliable sellers, but nonetheless, I think that they are making a good move in the right direction.
I'm real happy about that change. It's probably the only change that I like.
If you actually shipped it "Registered Mail", this would mean that you have the buyers signature. If the Postal Service couldn't provide you with the buyers autograph, you didn't pay for registered mail. Everybody has to sign off on handling the package including the buyer. Did you get his/her signature to show Pay Pal? If not, that's why you got got. If not you thought that you bought "Registered Mail", but you didn't. Registered Mail is 100% not faulty. It's not faulty because it's able to be tracked via web/internet, custom's and over seas postal service and their handlers have to sign off on it (So they know who was the last to handle it) and you can get copies of the final destination with the last person (The buyer) who handled it signature. If it didn't contain online tracking and signature requirement...it wasn't "Registered Mail". I've had so many people write and say that they bought "Registered Mail", but when I ask them these questions they never seem to have been able to get an signature requirement. That's because what they purchase wasn't Registered, but yes it had tracking. You need both. Not just one option of security.
This haven't happen to me yet (crossing fingers and toes), but I do recall a seller here on the siccness having a similar experience to bgrumpyp problem where the package was shipped to a foreign country with registered mail and returned receipt. The buyer insisted that they never received the package and thus filing a non-receipt PayPal claim. The seller provided all the receipts from the post office (purchase receipt, return receipt, and the registered mail card w/the signatures) and forwarded them to PayPal as proof shipment was established. PayPal reviewed the claim and unfortunately denied the seller's counter-claim even though everything in black and white was there and thus refunded the buyer in full from the seller's PayPal balance.
IMO its b/s because after reading PayPal's seller protection program, they're basically saying if you don't use their online shipping....your pretty much a$$ed out
That's why I'm hoping PayPal will realize this crap that Ebay has implemented and reinforce their seller protection program to adjust to this change....greedy bastards
IMO its b/s because after reading PayPal's seller protection program, they're basically saying if you don't use their online shipping....your pretty much a$$ed out
That's why I'm hoping PayPal will realize this crap that Ebay has implemented and reinforce their seller protection program to adjust to this change....greedy bastards
Yes, it is...
Yes, any package that is able to be tracked via internet will be covered. Insurance never helped the seller. It never helped because if you shipped your items first class (U.S. or Outside of the US) and only added insurance you would be fucked. You would be fucked because insurance isn't traceable. It just insurance. Nothing more, nothing less. There is really no benefit to using it unless you're adding it to a traceable package.
For example if you ship your package/item(s) "Express Mail (international or domestic)" then it automatically covers you with insurance up to $100. You can add more if you wold like. Express mail is traceable and has a signature requirement. Then we already know about the "Registered Mail". You can add insurance to that too, but why if you can prove that he/she/the buyer got the package.
The purpose of insurance is to cover the seller/shipper not the buyer if the item is lost/stolen and or damaged. The problem is that it's doesn't provide proof of the items arrival, because it's not traceable. This means that your customer can simply say that they didn't get your package and Pay Pal will side with them because they can't confirm it's arrival via internet. This also, means that you wasted your money, because the post office will say that yes, it arrived on such and such day at such and such time. They'll/the post office will have their pack and could tell you that it did arrive. This means that they/the post office won't give you your insurance money back. Now you're out of your item and your money all because you didn't send it in a traceable manner. Now if you package really is lost and/or stolen, then it's good, because they will back you, but if you buyer is lying...you're fucked, because they/the postal service can prove that it arrived. You can't, because it's not traceable via the world wide web.
So, what really is the point of having shipping insurance if it doesn't help you as the seller anyways? This is why I don't care if they get rid of it. I don't use it anyways. I live and die by "Registered Mail". They can't escape the tracking and the signature of somebody who lives at the address you sent it to. No way, no how.
eBay can get rid of that, I really don't care, because it wasn't worth shit anyways.
I found out about this stuff, because I've been got by buyers and I took it upon myself to get more educated on how to prevent this from happening over and over again.
Yes, any package that is able to be tracked via internet will be covered. Insurance never helped the seller. It never helped because if you shipped your items first class (U.S. or Outside of the US) and only added insurance you would be fucked. You would be fucked because insurance isn't traceable. It just insurance. Nothing more, nothing less. There is really no benefit to using it unless you're adding it to a traceable package.
For example if you ship your package/item(s) "Express Mail (international or domestic)" then it automatically covers you with insurance up to $100. You can add more if you wold like. Express mail is traceable and has a signature requirement. Then we already know about the "Registered Mail". You can add insurance to that too, but why if you can prove that he/she/the buyer got the package.
The purpose of insurance is to cover the seller/shipper not the buyer if the item is lost/stolen and or damaged. The problem is that it's doesn't provide proof of the items arrival, because it's not traceable. This means that your customer can simply say that they didn't get your package and Pay Pal will side with them because they can't confirm it's arrival via internet. This also, means that you wasted your money, because the post office will say that yes, it arrived on such and such day at such and such time. They'll/the post office will have their pack and could tell you that it did arrive. This means that they/the post office won't give you your insurance money back. Now you're out of your item and your money all because you didn't send it in a traceable manner. Now if you package really is lost and/or stolen, then it's good, because they will back you, but if you buyer is lying...you're fucked, because they/the postal service can prove that it arrived. You can't, because it's not traceable via the world wide web.
So, what really is the point of having shipping insurance if it doesn't help you as the seller anyways? This is why I don't care if they get rid of it. I don't use it anyways. I live and die by "Registered Mail". They can't escape the tracking and the signature of somebody who lives at the address you sent it to. No way, no how.
eBay can get rid of that, I really don't care, because it wasn't worth shit anyways.
I found out about this stuff, because I've been got by buyers and I took it upon myself to get more educated on how to prevent this from happening over and over again.
Nah, Marv. That's not what it say's nor is it what happened. It says that you need to used a traceable (via internet). The seller in that situation was Sippy and the buyer was Westbanklover. The problem was that the shipping showed that it was shipped, but it didn't show that it arrived. If he had the signature requirement, they could've tracked it down and found out who was the last to handle it. Therefore it would've been found and both parties would've been protected, because they would've found the breakdown in it's transmittance. Then as a shipper, you would have proof that it was either the shipping companies fault or the buyers fault, due to the paper trail.
Basically Pay Pal was able to see that it was shipped, but they couldn't see it's arrival and my man Sippy couldn't do shit about it and now he and my other man WestbankLover still fued to this day over that issue. I actually believe that Sippy did ship it and that Westbank didn't get it. I truly believed that it got swiped in the mail by the carrier or somebody who worked for that Carrier service. If Sippy had a paper trail, he would'nt have been in that situation. I believe both sides of that story.
Basically Pay Pal was able to see that it was shipped, but they couldn't see it's arrival and my man Sippy couldn't do shit about it and now he and my other man WestbankLover still fued to this day over that issue. I actually believe that Sippy did ship it and that Westbank didn't get it. I truly believed that it got swiped in the mail by the carrier or somebody who worked for that Carrier service. If Sippy had a paper trail, he would'nt have been in that situation. I believe both sides of that story.