Dynamics Plugins
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I have those as well, but don't really get to using them much. I really don't like the results I get from Multi-Band compression. If I use multi-band compression, I usually end up throwing a singleband compression plugin ontop of it to help glue the track together better. I mean the multi-band compression will really bring the track out, but it doesn't seem as nicely glued together.
Lately I've been going with...
1. "URS Strip Native" at the top of the master chain (Glues everything nicely, EQ)
Or "Timeworks CompressorX"
2. "PSP Vintage Warmer2" right below (brings track out adds a lot of body, EQ, Limiter)
Lately I've been going with...
1. "URS Strip Native" at the top of the master chain (Glues everything nicely, EQ)
Or "Timeworks CompressorX"
2. "PSP Vintage Warmer2" right below (brings track out adds a lot of body, EQ, Limiter)
2500 aint a multiband compressor, sometimes i use RCOMP or even the compressor that comes with pro tools. but only on individual tracks
while were on the subject what u think is the best EQ's and Reverbs?
i be using that RVerb on the individual tracks and TL Space on the whole mix
also i use that API EQ alot the 560
lol thank you waves! stepped my game up like 1000%
while were on the subject what u think is the best EQ's and Reverbs?
i be using that RVerb on the individual tracks and TL Space on the whole mix
also i use that API EQ alot the 560
lol thank you waves! stepped my game up like 1000%
EQ wise, I like:
ddmf IIEQ
AIXcoustic Creations Electri-Q
URS EQ's
ReaEQ
EricSound FreeEQ
Bootsy BootEQ
The Waves API's & VEQ's are nice, but I don't really use them much at all. Their GUI's kind of annoy me to be honest. I like the URS ones better.
I also really like the EQ's built into VintageWarmer and URS Strip Native.
Reverbs:
CSR
Focusrite Saffire Reverb
Fruity Reverb 1 & 2
GlaceVerb
AriesVerb
SIR2
ddmf IIEQ
AIXcoustic Creations Electri-Q
URS EQ's
ReaEQ
EricSound FreeEQ
Bootsy BootEQ
The Waves API's & VEQ's are nice, but I don't really use them much at all. Their GUI's kind of annoy me to be honest. I like the URS ones better.
I also really like the EQ's built into VintageWarmer and URS Strip Native.
Reverbs:
CSR
Focusrite Saffire Reverb
Fruity Reverb 1 & 2
GlaceVerb
AriesVerb
SIR2
9 times outta 10 I'll pick hardware over software when I'm beginning my mixes; I'll usually use plugins for cosmetic purposes afterwards though ...
Having said that here's my list:
Favorite plugs for vocal dynamics - UAD LA2A, UAD LA3A, Sony Oxford & Timeworks Compressor X
Favorite plug for bass - UAD 160 VU, UAD 1176, LA3A, Sony Oxford & Timeworks Comprssor X
Favorite buss comp - UAD Fairchild, UAD Neve 88rs, UAD LA2A, UAD LA3A, UAD Precision Bus Comp, UAD Neve 33609
Favorite vocal EQ - UAD Neve 1073, UAD Pultec Pro, UAD Fairchild, UAD Helios 69, Sony Oxford & Timeworks
Favorite bass EQ - UAD Neve 1081, UAD Pultec Pro, Sony Oxford, UAD Cambridge
Favorite channel strip - UAD Neve 88RS
Favorite reverbs: UAD Plate 140, UAD Dreamverb, and any TC Electronic Power Core reverb
Favorite FX/delays: UAD Roland RE-201 Space Echo, UAD RS-1 & UAD Nigel, TC Electroincs Powercore Chorus Delay, Moogerfooger, echo boy/sound toys(do not have, but are on my wish list!)
Also on my wish list: SSL Duende...
Having said that here's my list:
Favorite plugs for vocal dynamics - UAD LA2A, UAD LA3A, Sony Oxford & Timeworks Compressor X
Favorite plug for bass - UAD 160 VU, UAD 1176, LA3A, Sony Oxford & Timeworks Comprssor X
Favorite buss comp - UAD Fairchild, UAD Neve 88rs, UAD LA2A, UAD LA3A, UAD Precision Bus Comp, UAD Neve 33609
Favorite vocal EQ - UAD Neve 1073, UAD Pultec Pro, UAD Fairchild, UAD Helios 69, Sony Oxford & Timeworks
Favorite bass EQ - UAD Neve 1081, UAD Pultec Pro, Sony Oxford, UAD Cambridge
Favorite channel strip - UAD Neve 88RS
Favorite reverbs: UAD Plate 140, UAD Dreamverb, and any TC Electronic Power Core reverb
Favorite FX/delays: UAD Roland RE-201 Space Echo, UAD RS-1 & UAD Nigel, TC Electroincs Powercore Chorus Delay, Moogerfooger, echo boy/sound toys(do not have, but are on my wish list!)
Also on my wish list: SSL Duende...
^^^All those UAD plugins are basically software though, right? Since they only need the DSP card to run. I mean it's not like each of those UAD plugins come in their own hardware box, the actual circuitry is within the plugin code. So are they actually considered hardware 100% or more like 50-50? Seems more like hybrid, 50-50 to me. I ain't sure though, perhaps all the brains of the plugins are within the DSP Card and the software part is only for the GUI.
Ain't the DSP card just so you don't use up much of your CPU? So you free up your computer's CPU to use other plugins & such.
Ain't the DSP card just so you don't use up much of your CPU? So you free up your computer's CPU to use other plugins & such.
^ It's similar to Pro Tool's TDM plugs and how they're coded specifically for accel cards... (and actually before UA and Digidesign had a falling out, UA had coded some of their plugs for the TDM)...
My other unit that does eternal DSP processing is my TC Electronics' Powercore, which my Oxford plugs run on... The Powercore that I'm using has 4 DSP cards... (they just released one with 8, but I'm happy with 4)...
The unit that I do not own but would like to get one day (when I get a new CPU with extra PCIe slots or firewire buses) is SSL Duende... it contains plug-ins that are direct ports from their C200 Digital console... like the Powercore, it is also powered by 4 DSP cards...
On all these units, the actual DSP processing takes place within their repsective cards and in the case of the UAD-1 (and I think Duende), it actually upsamples to 32 bit...
So yeah, it seems to me like a hybrid approach as well; while the UAD plugins are software, they are being powered by hardware in the form of external DSP cards... hence the term 'powered plugins'... Either way, I'm a big fan of external DSP processing, as I'm usually blown away by the sound quality!
Plus the enormous strain it takes off my CPU is very much needed, as lately I've been mixing songs from a live band which require a lot of tracks and the heavy use of automation in regards to the volume, pannning, sends, returns, and manipulation of plug-in parameters!
With the combination of the UAD-1, Powercore, and Duende a DAW user is able to utilize up to 16 DSP cards of processing power! Get a second Duende and the total amount of DSP cards goes up to 20!
At this moment I have 6 DSP cards in one system, which serves me fine!
As a result, it takes a lot for me to get to the point where I actually have to freeze tracks... so for that I am thankful!
My other unit that does eternal DSP processing is my TC Electronics' Powercore, which my Oxford plugs run on... The Powercore that I'm using has 4 DSP cards... (they just released one with 8, but I'm happy with 4)...
The unit that I do not own but would like to get one day (when I get a new CPU with extra PCIe slots or firewire buses) is SSL Duende... it contains plug-ins that are direct ports from their C200 Digital console... like the Powercore, it is also powered by 4 DSP cards...
On all these units, the actual DSP processing takes place within their repsective cards and in the case of the UAD-1 (and I think Duende), it actually upsamples to 32 bit...
So yeah, it seems to me like a hybrid approach as well; while the UAD plugins are software, they are being powered by hardware in the form of external DSP cards... hence the term 'powered plugins'... Either way, I'm a big fan of external DSP processing, as I'm usually blown away by the sound quality!
Plus the enormous strain it takes off my CPU is very much needed, as lately I've been mixing songs from a live band which require a lot of tracks and the heavy use of automation in regards to the volume, pannning, sends, returns, and manipulation of plug-in parameters!
With the combination of the UAD-1, Powercore, and Duende a DAW user is able to utilize up to 16 DSP cards of processing power! Get a second Duende and the total amount of DSP cards goes up to 20!
At this moment I have 6 DSP cards in one system, which serves me fine!
As a result, it takes a lot for me to get to the point where I actually have to freeze tracks... so for that I am thankful!
To any of those interested in adding external DSP power to your systems:
I would highly recommend the UAD-1 as their stuff is phenominal... great prices, customer service top notch, and they generously give out vouchers, coupons, and gang of other deals on a regular basis! The downside is that you'll want to get at least 2 DSP cards so that you don't max out as much when mixing, as some of their plugs are CPU hungry (ie Neve plugs), but damn they sound good!
The Powercore sounds great, it comes with some real nice verbs/delays/choruses... but their plug-ins can be pricey when compared to those of their native counterparts... take the Sony Oxfords for example (although the native versions weren't available when I started using the Powercore)... and the latest Powercore plug, an emulation of TubeTech's CL-1b is damn near a thousand dollars!
Lastly, the Duende is fairly pricey considering it only comes with 2 plugs... they have been slow to offer addtional plugs and the 3 extra ones they finally did (the X-Comp, X-EQ, and Drumstrip I believe.. too lazy to google) go for from $400-$600 a wop! But when do you get authentic SSL for cheap anyway, right?
Hollatchyaboyee
I would highly recommend the UAD-1 as their stuff is phenominal... great prices, customer service top notch, and they generously give out vouchers, coupons, and gang of other deals on a regular basis! The downside is that you'll want to get at least 2 DSP cards so that you don't max out as much when mixing, as some of their plugs are CPU hungry (ie Neve plugs), but damn they sound good!
The Powercore sounds great, it comes with some real nice verbs/delays/choruses... but their plug-ins can be pricey when compared to those of their native counterparts... take the Sony Oxfords for example (although the native versions weren't available when I started using the Powercore)... and the latest Powercore plug, an emulation of TubeTech's CL-1b is damn near a thousand dollars!
Lastly, the Duende is fairly pricey considering it only comes with 2 plugs... they have been slow to offer addtional plugs and the 3 extra ones they finally did (the X-Comp, X-EQ, and Drumstrip I believe.. too lazy to google) go for from $400-$600 a wop! But when do you get authentic SSL for cheap anyway, right?
Hollatchyaboyee
Yeah that SSL Duende definitely looks cool. That UAD stuff is what looks really cool though because of all the different plugins. Those are all beyond my league though. Maybe if I understood all this dynamics stuff 100% and I made money off of mixing/mastering, then yeah it'll probably be worth it to me. But I honestly don't, this is just a at home hobby and most native vst plugins do quite a good job for me. Or atleast I think they do to my ears. haha PSP, URS, Voxengo, Waves,... all got some quality plugins that don't need DSP cards, so I'm str8.
