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schizoprenia and other mental or emotional problems by up to 30 percent.

including:

depression
anxiety


more on this later when i find time.
 
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Toop, it's life that causes anxiety and depression.

Most people who use drugs started because of anxiety or depression, so to say that dojia causes those things is a like saying that people who take heart medication are at an increased risk of suffering a heart attack, without considering the fact that the entire reason they are taking the heart medicine is because of previous heart problems. I've heard the same logic when people say that teenagers who take Prozac are more likely to commit suicide. No shit. That's why they're taking the prozac.

Bottom line: dojia isn't neccesarily good for you.
But it's better than ANY other chemical out there that people use to medicate themselves or alter their consciousness, including aspirin and alcohol and tobacco.
 
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Tooper said:
schizoprenia and other mental or emotional problems by up to 30 percent.

including:

depression
anxiety


more on this later when i find time.
you know what tooper nobody here in this forum will believe you. they all think weed is a wonder drugs that only does good with no ill effects.

but this does sound reasonable to me.
 
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ok you might be fine smoking weed but none of you have walked in my shoes.

i smoked big for 5-6 years.

i quit over a year ago because i was'nt getting nothing but ill affects for a long period of time.at first it was all good and it felt good but after doing it for so long i started to feel depressed and parinoid thats all it did to me for a long period of time.

but the thing is i was diagnosed with schizophrenia about two years ago.

about this study.i believe part of it because i have a mental pre disposition from my mother who is also sick witht the same illness.mental illness runs in both sides of my family.

now the drugs.

when i was diagnosed my doctor told me doing drugs may have triggered the schizophrenia.

so talking about this study it holds sum truths because while i was sick i was really messed up and smoking weed and doing drugs at the same time.

eventually i gave it all up.

my doctor told me drugs period damage the brain and it takes up to 5 years to gain and make it normal again.

i figured i had to start sumwhere because i can tell you my brain is'nt the same before i started smoking weed doing drugs.especially now that i'm sick.

i'm coping with being ill everyday.i take medicen every night and every morning.

i'm living with this.

and in sum ways i feel i'm to blame for being this way.

i think about it every other thought because it is on going and it prolly will never end.

this may be for life.

this is whut i'm talking about.
 
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and i forgot i was depressed for years because before i started smoking weed.

my first experiences for a couple years was good.

my brother was locked up at the time and i wanted to escape derpression.

i spent night after night without much sleep.

smoking weed helped me to sleep.

and then it took it's tole on me i got sick.

and the rest is history.
 
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Tooper said:
i quit over a year ago because i was'nt getting nothing but ill affects for a long period of time.at first it was all good and it felt good but after doing it for so long i started to feel depressed and parinoid thats all it did to me for a long period of time.
see there youngvicious thats what i was trying to tell y'all thats the proof. while you say that it diesnt affect your negative their are others out there that it does . thats why i said people react differently.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
see there youngvicious thats what i was trying to tell y'all thats the proof. while you say that it diesnt affect your negative their are others out there that it does . thats why i said people react differently.
Thats true, people react differently. But I think you gotta be prone to mental illnesses like that first before weed really pushes you to that point. And as for me thinking weed is a magic wonder drug that does no harm...hell no I dont believe that. Ask my lungs...I KNOW they dont like me anymore. But the fact is, Ive been smoking weed regularly for damn near four years...and Ive felt no negative affects except for a slightly weakened resperatory system, and my memory aint as great as it used to be. To me its no worse than the effects of the junk food I eat.

And yes, Sixxness, YV's a pothead :classic:
 
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Tooper said:

my doctor told me drugs period damage the brain and it takes up to 5 years to gain and make it normal again.
Evidence? Evidence? Evidence?
And does that broad, sweeping statement of yours include the anti-pyschotic medications that they put you on?

Listen Toop, I respect your opinions and I sympathize with your predicament, but to think that marijuana is responsible for "triggering" your disease when there is mental illness on both sides of your family is merely looking for a scapegoat.
How can you honestly think a drug is responisble when you have such a strong genetic predisposition for this illness? Toop, you would have developed schizophrenia REGARDLESS of whether you smoked pot or not.
If there had been no history of mental illness in your family, and you developed this condition after using pot, then I might agree with you, but as things are, the conclusion of your doctor is completely illogical.
If you research your condition, you will find that AGE is a much more likely "trigger" than pot.

Anyway, I wish the best for you and hope that you can keep this illness under control.
Stay up.
 
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people react to addiction of any sort differently. i have seen u hating on weed in several posts. this plant has the hate of the federal government isnt that enough? i know life long stoners that are straighter and have their life in way better shape than many people. smoking big for 5-6 years is a blink of an eye in my dealings with ganja and for alot of people i know. we are all doing fine. end the reefer maddness!

i'm sorry about your illness, and wish u luck. i just gotta watch out for my main bitch, mary.
 
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mook age is a factor it's late teens to early twentys that it starts.but i have to deal with "is it true that maybe i'm at fault" or "partly at fault".trust me i think about it all the time because i have a court date for social security income a year from now.that one hour at court all of this will come into play and i don't know how it will go.

this is whut my doctors told me.it just was'nt weed i was smoking but weed never helped.i stay sober because of how i felt when i was high.

i've seen you say the same thing to other people i guess you don't believe whut doctors tell you.

but why should i not beleive a highly respected doctor who have to deal with many cases hundreds and hundreds of them day in and day out?

i see the stack of paper works of history and clients in his office.

all i know is staying sober would only help me in my condition.

from my own personal experience and also from whut my doctor advises.

you are right about the medication it certainly does not help if i also take drugs.

it would only counter the effects my medication has and it would be no use to take it.

but i still beleive my brain is'nt the same as when i never took drugs.

you got to remember i lost my mind before.and still deal with it everyday.
 
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Humboldt High said:
i have seen u hating on weed in several posts. this plant has the hate of the federal government isnt that enough?
i think you are directing this at me but if not disregaurd this.

i have several farmer friends in Eureka and Ukia with prescriptions which allow them to farm certain popular things up that way. i also personally own 5 lamps ( 2-1000 watt metal halides and 3-1000 watt high pressure sodium) which arent just sitting in the closet (if you know what i mean). so i wouldnt say im hating on weed, im just pointing out the ill effects to those who believe that there are none. and to the people who want it legal for ANY1 to use at will.
 

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^^people just gotta know themselves and know what they can handle.....I know there are some things that you can't predict, but that's the chance you take when you do drugs.....
 
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Aye Tooper did you just smoke weed for 5-6 years or were you using other shit too? My dad's brother had scitzo.... and my dad always told me that it showed up early and got so bad because he was heavily into acid. He was shot and killed when he attacked a police officer in Virginia.

I can't lie and say that I dont worry about that shit sometimes though. since it runs on one side of my family. but I keep it at weed and ever once in awhile alchohol I never do anyhting harder than that.
 
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Sixxness said:
[B.....I know there are some things that you can't predict, but that's the chance you take when you do drugs..... [/B]
thats all i was trying to get across that even though weed isnt to bad it still cant be made available at will for recreational usd to any1 who wishes to try it because it will affect different people differently.