Dinesh D'Souza

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Any of y'all ever hear of this guy? He's either going to be assassinated or really start to make waves. I saw him speak at Oklahoma University a couple weeks ago. Outrageously smart guy but he's one of the more well known defenders of Christianity.

His new book "The Roots of Obama's Rage" has done pretty well as far as sales but he makes some good points about our current President.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Hopefully he is assassinated.
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I figured you'd say something like that.

I think it's funny that athiests are quick to say something like that from someone that demands more out of the science community. They challenge each other in their faith in science or religion. I think they both benefit from the debates.

A lot of athiests hate Ben Stein when his stance has mostly been a more open mind in regards to science.
 
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CHRISHOGGALYPSE said:
I figured you'd say something like that.

I think it's funny that athiests are quick to say something like that from someone that demands more out of the science community. They challenge each other in their faith in science or religion. I think they both benefit from the debates.

A lot of athiests hate Ben Stein when his stance has mostly been a more open mind in regards to science.
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woah there, my comment had nothing to do with athiesm or religious beliefs. My comment is based on his ultra right ring fucktardism:

The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11 ... the cultural left and its allies in Congress, the media, Hollywood, the non-profit sector and the universities are the primary cause of the volcano of anger toward America that is erupting from the Islamic world.​

He's also a racist, believes African Americans are highly dysfunctional, "defected" criminals, etc.

Here are some more gems of his:

“The American slave was treated like property, which is to say, pretty well.” (from D’Souza’s book, The End of Racism)​

"Am I calling for the repeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Actually, yes." (from The End of Racism)​

“...within the United States, black males have (you may be surprised to discover) the highest self-esteem of any group. Yet on academic measures black males score the lowest. The reason is that self-esteem in these cases is generated by factors unrelated to studies, such as the ability to beat up other students or a high estimation of one’s sexual prowess.” (from D’Souza’s book Letters to a Young Conservative)​

"[f]or many whites the criminal and irresponsible black underclass represents a revival of barbarism in the midst of Western civilization." (from D’Souza’s book The End of Racism)​

“What impact did the abortionists, the feminists, the homosexual activists, and the secularists have on the Islamic radicals who conspired to blow up the World Trade Center and the Pentagon? Unfortunately, this crucial question got buried, and virtually no one has raised it publicly.” (from The Enemy at Home)​

So yeah I wouldn't' mind a bullet going through his skull. There is nothing scientific about his "work" and he provides the ultra right with a specific role in their agenda.
 
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Pretty sure Ive seen Hitchens eat him up a couple times on youtube, the bible is more about handling your money than loving your neighbor, take it how u want it
 
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You could say that about any group. Did you read all of the books that these quotes are from? While they stand as a complete thought on their own, removed from the entire text they are not complete.

He brings up a grip of points that some people will feel are racist but that raises the question, are they racist if they're true? It's difficult to generalize any group of people without stereotyping or sounding racist. Obviously everyone will not fit into that generalization but it brings up a lot of valid points about different groups in america.

While statements may also seem racist to some people, they also want the benefits of reverse-racism such as affirmative action.
 
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Pretty sure Ive seen Hitchens eat him up a couple times on youtube, the bible is more about handling your money than loving your neighbor, take it how u want it
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They've debated a number of times. It's pretty much an ongoing debate. He talked about that when I saw him. People assume that they are enemies because of their debates but he says they are friends that rarely talk about any of that stuff off stage but they obviously have a difference in opinion.

I enjoy both sides of the argument. When it's over, most minds aren't changed from what they believed in but they both prove some of their points well
 
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D'Souza comes from a right ring think tank and he's allowed to say what many right wing white american's cannot say (but many think) because he's Indian and dark sinned. Again, he serves his role very nicely.
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can't disagree with that. He's definitely not the only person doing that but aside from all that, he makes valid points that aren't race related
 
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What are these valid points that aren't race related?
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In "The Bishops as Pawns," D'Souza theorized that U.S. Catholic bishops were being manipulated by American liberals in agreeing to oppose the U.S. military buildup and use of power abroad and actually knew very little about these subjects to which they were lending their religious credibility, writing:

Interviews with these bishops suggest that they know little or nothing about the ideas and proposals to which they are putting their signature and lending their religious authority. The bishops are unfamiliar with existing defense and economic programs, unable to identify even in general terms the Soviet military capability, ignorant of roughly how much of the budget currently goes to defense, unclear about how much should be reallocated to social programs, and innocent of the most basic concepts underlying the intelligent layman's discussion of these questions.


he calls the modern liberal belief that "human nature is intrinsically good," and thus that "the great conflicts in the world…arise out of terrible misunderstandings that can be corrected through ongoing conversation and through the mediation of the United Nations."

"The feminist error was to embrace the value of the workplace as greater than the value of the home. Feminism has endorsed the public sphere as inherently more constitutive of women’s worth than the private sphere. Feminists have established as their criterion of success and self-worth an equal representation with men at the top of the career ladder. The consequence of this feminist scale of values is a terrible and unjust devaluation of women who work at home"

Also his points (that I would be doing him a disservice by quoting since I don't remember it word for word) about how the Islamic faith is viewed because of the extremists and how what they do is aligned with what's in the Qur'an. It says that infidels and people who don't convert should be killed I believe but no Muslim culture has carried this out, as much as other cultures have done the opposite such as the Nazi's. Or how much is made out of the crusades and how violent Christian history is, but the numbers of people that were killed pale in comparison to the numbers killed by athiest or muslim leaders.
 
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