Difference between Democrats and Republicans

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Jul 10, 2002
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If your Rich, there is no difference.
If you are Poor there is no difference.
If you are 'middle-class' on the mid to low range you get fucked by, on the upper end, you can polarize into gaining wealth with Republicans. With Democrats, the middle class can revcieve benefits.

Now I agree that politics in this country is fucked 99 ways till sunday, but I will say the last thing we need is a 2 class economic system (i.e. the Wealthy and the Proletariat)

Aside from some domestic social issues, that's about it....
 
Nov 24, 2003
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This is an article from 2005 about the debate on privitazing Social Security.

I particularly liked a few of the quotes the writer had.

They illustrate some of the differences between Ds and Rs.

I don't like either party, but I do like some of the points she made, because it lends a different perspective to some of the traditional Democratic policies

Are democrats actually FOR the middle class, or do they think the middle class is too dumb to succeed without their intervention

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43413

Whereas Bush is selling his reform under the theme of an "ownership society," I would call the Democratic alternative the "plantation society." The "plantation society" is characterized by a wealthy class of owners who want to limit the choices, opportunities and freedom of working-class Americans.
Certainly, Pelosi seems quite comfortable in her ability to manage her own millions. However, the thought of working Americans retaining a few thousand dollars each year of their own earnings to invest in a personal retirement account is so outrageous to her she won't even discuss it
The owner/masters of today's Democratic plantation reject all attempts to roll back government and give working Americans more choice and freedom
Ironically, most personal-retirement-account proposals simply make this option available. But even allowing the option gives too much freedom to working Americans for the Democrats. Apparently, we're all so dumb that not only can't we manage our own money, but we shouldn't even be given a voluntary option to do it.


Although the article was written about a specific issue, I agree with the general idea that democrats policy on this issue seems to assume people are too stupid to take care of themselves and need goverment intervention in many aspects of their lives.



I subscribe to more of a sink or swim doctrine...

If you cant swim, you are bound to drown.



disclaimer: I really dislike both parites. I am not a republican. This happens to illustrate one particular reason I don't like democrats
 
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Well most Americans have proven that they are too stupid to manage their own money and when they do take the initiative, spend time researching, and make informed decisions they can still get swindled out of it real quick.

That is why Social Security was created and why (as we see with the economic crisis now) it is needed today.

2 trillion lost from American citizen’s pensions and retirement funds because of this. Imagine how much more would have been lost if social security were market based.

Social security doesn't limit the choices of Americans it broadens and diversifies.
 

ThaG

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Well most Americans have proven that they are too stupid to manage their own money and when they do take the initiative, spend time researching, and make informed decisions they can still get swindled out of it real quick.
What else can you expect in a country where the average citizen can't do any math more complicated than addition and subtraction :confused::ermm:
 
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Social security doesn't limit the choices of Americans it broadens and diversifies.

I don't think we should eliminate social security, but we should give people the option to contribute or not. If you want to put your money in SS, that is your choice. If you want to put your money in a 401k, that is your choice. If you want to blow all your money at the casino every other friday, that is your choice as well.

I agree that a lot more people would have lost money if their social security plans were tied to the market, but it should be their decision to invest in either social security or a market related investment.

If people are too irresonponsible to handle their own finances, maybe they should be allowed to perish and we can simulatenously handle what ThaG has pointed out as an overpopuation problem.
 
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I don't think we should eliminate social security, but we should give people the option to contribute or not. If you want to put your money in SS, that is your choice. If you want to put your money in a 401k, that is your choice. If you want to blow all your money at the casino every other friday, that is your choice as well.

I agree that a lot more people would have lost money if their social security plans were tied to the market, but it should be their decision to invest in either social security or a market related investment.


The option to opt out of Social Security goes against the basic premise of social security. You don't get to opt out of taxes and you shouldn't be able to opt out of social security for the same reason.
 
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Do people realize social security is not some savings acct. that just sits waiting for us to cash out. The money they take out of checks today goes to pay for the benefits people collect TODAY.