Denver police celebrate brutality with their own T-shirt

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Denver's police union is facing criticism for printing a commemorative T-shirt that makes light of the use of violence by police, particularly in the wake of 154 arrests during the week of Democratic National Convention this past August.

"We get up early, to beat the crowds," the shirt reads, followed by "2008 DNC." The words flank a grinning police officer holding a baton and wearing a hat with a crossed-out number "68," presumably making reference to activist organization Recreate 68, which staged several anti-war demonstrations during the convention.

"The people of Denver were assured by the city that it would respect First Amendment rights during the DNC, and that that police officers were being trained to do so. The actions of police during the DNC, which involved numerous violations of people's right to freedom of speech and assembly, put the lie to those promises," said Recreate 68's Glenn Spagnuolo. "And now this appalling, tasteless t-shirt shows why. The members of Denver's police union clearly have no respect for the rights guaranteed by the United States Constitution. The Denver Police Department Operations Manual includes a Law Enforcement Code of Ethics, which begins, 'As a Law Enforcement Officer, my fundamental duty is to serve mankind, to safeguard lives and property, to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation, and the peaceful against violence or disorder; and to respect the Constitutional rights of all men to liberty, equality and justice.' The creation of this t-shirt makes a mockery of that statement."

Detective Nick Rogers of the Police Protective Association said that the union predicts sales of about 2,000 shirts in addition to the ones given free to Denver police officers, and also told KMGH that he hadn't received any complaints about the shirt.
 
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What about the first amendment rights of the police officers to make that shirt? All the sudden the activists don't believe in freedom of speech?

Sure the police should be held accountable if they use excessive force. That's a completely different issue than making a t-shirt.
 
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Just because you excersise your freedom of speech does not mean that said speech is appropriate or ethical.
So who determines what is "appropriate" or "ethical"? Sarah Palin? The whole point about freedom of speech is that it allows people with "dissenting" viewpoints to share their thoughts. Freedom of speech is a tricky issue especially when you're dealing with bigoted/racist/hateful/prejudiced ideology but the minute we decide to impose limitations on speech - is when we allow the possibility for those that are in power to impose their limitations on our freedom of speech. If this were the case the protesters wouldn't be able to be there in the first place and we could enjoy DNC propaganda bullshit in peace!
 

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What about the first amendment rights of the police officers to make that shirt? All the sudden the activists don't believe in freedom of speech?

Sure the police should be held accountable if they use excessive force. That's a completely different issue than making a t-shirt.
It would be different if an individual officer made these shirts, sold them or even wiped my ass with them. However, there is one slight problem you're overlooking. A branch of a government agency, who recieves money (payroll, taxes etc) from the public is doing this.

That's where the problem lies, and I believe the article hinted on that.

EDIT: Just so you know I don't give a damn about those shirts. Shit looks like an old No Limit album cover or logo.
 
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What about the first amendment rights of the police officers to make that shirt? All the sudden the activists don't believe in freedom of speech?

Sure the police should be held accountable if they use excessive force. That's a completely different issue than making a t-shirt.
well nobody's whoopin on the pigs or lockin em up for making or wearing those t- shirts. I think that's the difference..
 
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What about the first amendment rights of the police officers to make that shirt? All the sudden the activists don't believe in freedom of speech?

Sure the police should be held accountable if they use excessive force. That's a completely different issue than making a t-shirt.

Liberals love free speech as long as its what they agree with it, otherwise they want to shut it down. Hence the fairness Doctrine
 
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Good shirt, why should they have any pretense about what they do.............?
They dont, but these shirts are based on what happened in Denver colorado just one month ago (2 months?). They are basing it on real life situations.

I mean, what if a bunch of white dudes got shirts that said "hanging niggers since 1600"? I mean, they dont have to have a pretense, but you and i both know that it happened...right?

As i do believe that inappropriateness, ethics, and morals are ALL subjective, there is a certain level of resepct that should be commonly known.
 
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Remember these are police officers. They are government workers entrusted with protecting the citizenry.

A. This alone is enough reason to hold them to a higher standard

B. Police advocating violence against the citizenry is inappropriate and should be cause for alarm. It should be punished not protected.


Think there would be an issue if a shirt said "We get up early to protect you from the crowds"? And pictured:
 
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What about the first amendment rights of the police officers to make that shirt? All the sudden the activists don't believe in freedom of speech?

Sure the police should be held accountable if they use excessive force. That's a completely different issue than making a t-shirt.
Liberals love free speech as long as its what they agree with it, otherwise they want to shut it down. Hence the fairness Doctrine

The biggest difference is that rather than private citizens exercising their freedom of speech these are people from a state/government institution, representing that government institution (they are employees of the state). . .

HUGE DIFFERENCE, they SHOULD be held accountable and and it would be in the state's interest to hold them accountable and watch ther actions so as not to cause public distrust with the state and it's employees.

Many people forget that any government official/employee is employed by WE THE PEOPLE and our tax dollars. They aren't simply private citizens, rather as police officers they've vowed to serve the public.
 
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The biggest difference is that rather than private citizens exercising their freedom of speech these are people from a state/government institution, representing that government institution (they are employees of the state). . .

HUGE DIFFERENCE, they SHOULD be held accountable and and it would be in the state's interest to hold them accountable and watch ther actions so as not to cause public distrust with the state and it's employees.

Many people forget that any government official/employee is employed by WE THE PEOPLE and our tax dollars. They aren't simply private citizens, rather as police officers they've vowed to serve the public.
I think the bigger problem is that the we have police who have this type of mentality that actually celebrates the savage beating of harmless, innocent people for no other reason than they are there. Its not really a free speech issue, its more of an issue of policing the police...