What's going on with Tha Outlawz because I was reading about you trying to sell them back their tracks...
Yeah, if they want it, I'll sell it. All the shit they've got right now is wack. All that shit they're coming with; the Bone Thugs... I like Bone Thugs but I wouldn't be rappin' with them motherfuckers. They were (Tha Outlawz) dissing them back in the day. They're doing all that for a little bit of change. Napoleon got on talking about how he's trying to get in contact (with me). I'm a man, I don't need to talk to no-fuckin'-body. Like I said before, them bitch ass niggaz ain't in the streets. I ain't seen them motherfuckers bust ne'er gun. You ain't heard shit from them actively in the street. They ain't got no street repertoire.
With the So-So Def/Aftermath beef well known - where do you stand?
I stand with So-So Def.
Does that bring up any rivalry with Dre? Or...
No, because... You know what happened to Xzibit right?
What happened?I heard about Xzibit bowing down to Suge and whatnot, and Snoop etc.'s problems with that...
No, I'm talkin' about Xzibit got beat up the other day.
Nah, I didn't hear about that
Yeah, he was in a restaurant the other day. Some essay's came up to him and were like "Are you Xzibit?" He brushed them off, being like "I ain't got time for this shit." So the essay dude started pickin' with him. So when he came outside, another essay dude came up and busted him in the face with a bottle. He got eighty-seven stitches in his mouth. He can't rap no more. That's the news of the week right there.
Well, I was going to ask you this separately. But last time I spoke with Soopafly, and I'm quoting him here "I hate Suge Knight and Xzibit is a bitch." I was going to ask your feelings on the two...
Fuck Suge Knight and Xzibit is still a bitch. He's scary. The other day Fredwreck called me and told me about how Xzibit got into a fight with some essay's the other day in Hollywood and he got all those stitches in his mouth. He got jumped with a bottle and needs plastic surgery. He can't rap no more.
So things haven't cooled off between the camps? It's just I'd heard that Snoop and Xzibit were cool again...
Yeah, we're all cool - but we can't stop the street credibility. We can't stop the streets. They can be cool, but the motherfuckers in the streets... it's really war time.
Spice 1 recently expressed his disgust at the way that Jay-Z and Nas have altered and released Tupac related material even though it's well known how he felt towards them. What are your thoughts on that situation?
Suge trying to get some level to get his bitch ass back in the game. But that ain't shit. He can't do that regardless, everything is owned by Universal. So Universal is really doing all that. Suge's bitch ass is still in jail.
A lot of people and the media threw out tonnes of allegations as to who killed Tupac, who was responsible for his death... In your opinion, as someone who was very close to the situation - who would you say is most likely responsible?
You tell me, what you think?
I say the government.
I don't say the government, I say Suge Knight's bitch ass.
You really think that?
Who else has got the money and the power to do some shit like that? Ain't nobody else in the world feuding but him. If you look at that Biggie & Tupac tape, that'd tell you all. Got that little fat white man in the chair snitching his fuckin' heart out.
What are your thoughts on Biggie's death then, do you think Suge had a role in that?
Shit, you never know. Shit, wasn't nobody else feuding with them niggaz like that. Probably my life is up in jeopardy, but I stay on deck with mine. Anything in red coming up to me is gettin' shot the fuck down. I mean back up, give me fifty feet.
What are your thoughts on Crooked I?
He done rapped his motherfucking self out. As far as when he first started he had rhymes. But now he's on Death Row, he made about a million songs and ain't got shit to rap about no more. Ain't shit over there going right and he's selling his own tapes right now - undeground. Suge won't put his shit out. I got an album on him. I just need a little more money from Death Row to promote his punk ass and I'ma put him out and clock everything. I got him on contract right now. Dominic Whitcliff, that's his real name.
What's the situation with you continuing to put out Death Row material in conjunction with them still doing so with you?
They can't put out no more shit. I stole everything.
What was the incident I heard about involving a screwdriver?
I was on mushrooms one day, and you can ask Kurupt this story too... I was on mushrooms, and they didn't pay me for a song I did on the "Sunset Park" soundtrack. So I went in there and hemmed everybody up on Death Row. All the people in the office, Norman, Suge - sisters, husbands. "Give me my money!" Suge comes in the room, and when I looked in his eyes. I felt like he was gonna do something to me. So he put his arms around me, I put my arms around him and I had the screwdriver in my hand. He was moving me, and I was moving him. Now I was real little at that time, you know what I mean? But I wasn't scared of nothin'. The first thing that entered my mind was "Stick this nigga in his neck and if he dies - I go for self defence." Know what I mean? So he, knowing that I was gonna get busy, told me "Hold on! Hold on! Cool off..." I walked out of the office with a cheque for $145,000. I gave Kurupt's bitch ass $5000 in one's and he was still crying. Me, him and Hershey loc.
Is there any slim chance that things between you and Kurupt could ever be resolved?
Hell nah, like I said on my record - "Message To Ricardo Brown" - "Only thing you can do for me nigga, is kill Suge Knight." And he ain't got the heart for that so shit'll never be the right way. We got a new Dogg Pound now - me, Soopafly and Snoop. Plus Soopafly wanna see Kurupt and I've got all my money on that fight right there. I'ma jump in and whoop the shit out of somebody. He a bitch. Kurupt is a bitch. Suge Knight is snitchin' to the police. Everytime Suge Knight goes in for a violation of his parole, he gives information to the police. He should be out real soon after he gives out all the information in the street.
I've got some either or choices for you, so you choose one or the other...
XXL or The Source
XXL. Fuck Benzino.
Kay Slay or DJ Clue...
Uh... I like Kay Slay. No hate to DJ Clue, but get 'em in the ring. I think Kay Slay would beat the fuck out of him.
Who fell off harder - Kurupt or Ja Rule?
Both of 'em. They both bitches. I heard Ja Rule's putting his next album out on Death Row.
Yeah, that's what I heard as well - with Fatal Hussein
Fuck Fatal Hussein too. I don't give a fuck about none of them niggaz. All of them is bitches lettin' Suge Knight punk the fuck out of them. Ain't gonna get no publishing, ain't gonna get a god damned thing.
Do you think Tha Outlawz would be anything if it weren't for Tupac?
If it weren't for Tupac, nobody would know about Tha Outlawz.
To date, what is the best music related experience you've had...
Everything. I've been travelling with this music for ten years. We're legends in this rap game; me, Snoop. Kurupt was a legend, but his shit just went down the drain. His street credibility - everything he ever worked for over the years just went down the drain.
That's something I never really understood, how he left Tha Row so soon and started something else then came back. Seemed hypocritical...
He's a stupid motherfucker. He was on Antra, signed to some other people. And he wants to go on Death Row. He ain't gettin' no money. "Vice President" of Death Row - ain't shit goin' on at Death Row apart from motherfuckers dying and going to jail. You want to be known for that shit? And once you leave you can't never come back. I have a vendetta against Death Row and Suge Knight, I do not give a fuck about them. That shit bores my motherfuckin' soul. It's like a motherfucker whoopin' your ass and you're finna go back to him. Fuck that shit, somebody finna get killed tonight. I'm not going through none of that shit, I'm a good fighter, and I'm a good shooter and I'll whoop somebody ass. I'm The Dogg Pound, me. Daz is The Dogg pound! Out of everybody in The Dogg Pound, I get down and whoop ass.
Yeah, I heard some comments from Nate Dogg about his disgust with Kurupt's move...
Could you die today saying that you'd lived?
No, I couldn't. I want to see my kids grow up and I'm getting my life together. I can say if I died today I'd be happy. I am saved and filled with the holy ghost, I do know Jesus Christ is my lord and savior. I am trying to correct my life and do things correctly. Not fuck over nobody. I have never fucked over nobody in my career. I am very humble and I love everybody, but don't fuck me. I like to play dumb to you to see if you're gonna fuck me. After I get that first notion, I'ma fuck you up.
I've always thought head games are the best way of handling things, the best way of finding out who people actually are...
Yeah, just playin' dumb.
Yeah, if they want it, I'll sell it. All the shit they've got right now is wack. All that shit they're coming with; the Bone Thugs... I like Bone Thugs but I wouldn't be rappin' with them motherfuckers. They were (Tha Outlawz) dissing them back in the day. They're doing all that for a little bit of change. Napoleon got on talking about how he's trying to get in contact (with me). I'm a man, I don't need to talk to no-fuckin'-body. Like I said before, them bitch ass niggaz ain't in the streets. I ain't seen them motherfuckers bust ne'er gun. You ain't heard shit from them actively in the street. They ain't got no street repertoire.
With the So-So Def/Aftermath beef well known - where do you stand?
I stand with So-So Def.
Does that bring up any rivalry with Dre? Or...
No, because... You know what happened to Xzibit right?
What happened?I heard about Xzibit bowing down to Suge and whatnot, and Snoop etc.'s problems with that...
No, I'm talkin' about Xzibit got beat up the other day.
Nah, I didn't hear about that
Yeah, he was in a restaurant the other day. Some essay's came up to him and were like "Are you Xzibit?" He brushed them off, being like "I ain't got time for this shit." So the essay dude started pickin' with him. So when he came outside, another essay dude came up and busted him in the face with a bottle. He got eighty-seven stitches in his mouth. He can't rap no more. That's the news of the week right there.
Well, I was going to ask you this separately. But last time I spoke with Soopafly, and I'm quoting him here "I hate Suge Knight and Xzibit is a bitch." I was going to ask your feelings on the two...
Fuck Suge Knight and Xzibit is still a bitch. He's scary. The other day Fredwreck called me and told me about how Xzibit got into a fight with some essay's the other day in Hollywood and he got all those stitches in his mouth. He got jumped with a bottle and needs plastic surgery. He can't rap no more.
So things haven't cooled off between the camps? It's just I'd heard that Snoop and Xzibit were cool again...
Yeah, we're all cool - but we can't stop the street credibility. We can't stop the streets. They can be cool, but the motherfuckers in the streets... it's really war time.
Spice 1 recently expressed his disgust at the way that Jay-Z and Nas have altered and released Tupac related material even though it's well known how he felt towards them. What are your thoughts on that situation?
Suge trying to get some level to get his bitch ass back in the game. But that ain't shit. He can't do that regardless, everything is owned by Universal. So Universal is really doing all that. Suge's bitch ass is still in jail.
A lot of people and the media threw out tonnes of allegations as to who killed Tupac, who was responsible for his death... In your opinion, as someone who was very close to the situation - who would you say is most likely responsible?
You tell me, what you think?
I say the government.
I don't say the government, I say Suge Knight's bitch ass.
You really think that?
Who else has got the money and the power to do some shit like that? Ain't nobody else in the world feuding but him. If you look at that Biggie & Tupac tape, that'd tell you all. Got that little fat white man in the chair snitching his fuckin' heart out.
What are your thoughts on Biggie's death then, do you think Suge had a role in that?
Shit, you never know. Shit, wasn't nobody else feuding with them niggaz like that. Probably my life is up in jeopardy, but I stay on deck with mine. Anything in red coming up to me is gettin' shot the fuck down. I mean back up, give me fifty feet.
What are your thoughts on Crooked I?
He done rapped his motherfucking self out. As far as when he first started he had rhymes. But now he's on Death Row, he made about a million songs and ain't got shit to rap about no more. Ain't shit over there going right and he's selling his own tapes right now - undeground. Suge won't put his shit out. I got an album on him. I just need a little more money from Death Row to promote his punk ass and I'ma put him out and clock everything. I got him on contract right now. Dominic Whitcliff, that's his real name.
What's the situation with you continuing to put out Death Row material in conjunction with them still doing so with you?
They can't put out no more shit. I stole everything.
What was the incident I heard about involving a screwdriver?
I was on mushrooms one day, and you can ask Kurupt this story too... I was on mushrooms, and they didn't pay me for a song I did on the "Sunset Park" soundtrack. So I went in there and hemmed everybody up on Death Row. All the people in the office, Norman, Suge - sisters, husbands. "Give me my money!" Suge comes in the room, and when I looked in his eyes. I felt like he was gonna do something to me. So he put his arms around me, I put my arms around him and I had the screwdriver in my hand. He was moving me, and I was moving him. Now I was real little at that time, you know what I mean? But I wasn't scared of nothin'. The first thing that entered my mind was "Stick this nigga in his neck and if he dies - I go for self defence." Know what I mean? So he, knowing that I was gonna get busy, told me "Hold on! Hold on! Cool off..." I walked out of the office with a cheque for $145,000. I gave Kurupt's bitch ass $5000 in one's and he was still crying. Me, him and Hershey loc.
Is there any slim chance that things between you and Kurupt could ever be resolved?
Hell nah, like I said on my record - "Message To Ricardo Brown" - "Only thing you can do for me nigga, is kill Suge Knight." And he ain't got the heart for that so shit'll never be the right way. We got a new Dogg Pound now - me, Soopafly and Snoop. Plus Soopafly wanna see Kurupt and I've got all my money on that fight right there. I'ma jump in and whoop the shit out of somebody. He a bitch. Kurupt is a bitch. Suge Knight is snitchin' to the police. Everytime Suge Knight goes in for a violation of his parole, he gives information to the police. He should be out real soon after he gives out all the information in the street.
I've got some either or choices for you, so you choose one or the other...
XXL or The Source
XXL. Fuck Benzino.
Kay Slay or DJ Clue...
Uh... I like Kay Slay. No hate to DJ Clue, but get 'em in the ring. I think Kay Slay would beat the fuck out of him.
Who fell off harder - Kurupt or Ja Rule?
Both of 'em. They both bitches. I heard Ja Rule's putting his next album out on Death Row.
Yeah, that's what I heard as well - with Fatal Hussein
Fuck Fatal Hussein too. I don't give a fuck about none of them niggaz. All of them is bitches lettin' Suge Knight punk the fuck out of them. Ain't gonna get no publishing, ain't gonna get a god damned thing.
Do you think Tha Outlawz would be anything if it weren't for Tupac?
If it weren't for Tupac, nobody would know about Tha Outlawz.
To date, what is the best music related experience you've had...
Everything. I've been travelling with this music for ten years. We're legends in this rap game; me, Snoop. Kurupt was a legend, but his shit just went down the drain. His street credibility - everything he ever worked for over the years just went down the drain.
That's something I never really understood, how he left Tha Row so soon and started something else then came back. Seemed hypocritical...
He's a stupid motherfucker. He was on Antra, signed to some other people. And he wants to go on Death Row. He ain't gettin' no money. "Vice President" of Death Row - ain't shit goin' on at Death Row apart from motherfuckers dying and going to jail. You want to be known for that shit? And once you leave you can't never come back. I have a vendetta against Death Row and Suge Knight, I do not give a fuck about them. That shit bores my motherfuckin' soul. It's like a motherfucker whoopin' your ass and you're finna go back to him. Fuck that shit, somebody finna get killed tonight. I'm not going through none of that shit, I'm a good fighter, and I'm a good shooter and I'll whoop somebody ass. I'm The Dogg Pound, me. Daz is The Dogg pound! Out of everybody in The Dogg Pound, I get down and whoop ass.
Yeah, I heard some comments from Nate Dogg about his disgust with Kurupt's move...
Could you die today saying that you'd lived?
No, I couldn't. I want to see my kids grow up and I'm getting my life together. I can say if I died today I'd be happy. I am saved and filled with the holy ghost, I do know Jesus Christ is my lord and savior. I am trying to correct my life and do things correctly. Not fuck over nobody. I have never fucked over nobody in my career. I am very humble and I love everybody, but don't fuck me. I like to play dumb to you to see if you're gonna fuck me. After I get that first notion, I'ma fuck you up.
I've always thought head games are the best way of handling things, the best way of finding out who people actually are...
Yeah, just playin' dumb.