"Dateline" producer slams popular "Predator" series as unethical

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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0529071nbc1.html

NBC's "Perverted" Justice?
Axed "Dateline" producer slams popular "Predator" series as unethical

MAY 29--In a scathing broadside at NBC's popular "To Catch a Predator" series, a former producer charges that she was canned last year after complaining that the show violated "numerous journalistic ethical standards" and many of the network's own "policies and guidelines." In a breach of contract lawsuit, Marsha Bartel, 49, alleges that her 21-year career at NBC ended months after her August 2006 appointment as "sole producer" of "To Catch a Predator," which conducts sting operations targeting men seeking illicit liaisons with children they've met online. According to her complaint, which was filed last week in U.S. District Court in Chicago, Bartel charges that many of the program's ethical lapses stem from its relationship with Perverted Justice, a shadowy vigilante group that the show uses to "troll for and lure targets into its sting." A copy of Bartel's lawsuit can be found below. According to Bartel, by paying Perverted Justice, NBC has given the group a "financial incentive to lie to trick targets of its sting." The identities of the group's 50-plus volunteers were kept secret from her, Bartel says, adding that Perverted Justice does not provide "complete transcripts from its trolling operations," so network officials "cannot independently verify the accuracy" of the group's transcripts. In some instances, Bartel claims, sting targets are "led into additional acts of humiliation (such as being encouraged to remove their clothes) in order to enhance the comedic effect of the public exposure of these persons." She also charges that NBC has unethically covered up the fact that law enforcement officials have acted improperly while working in conjunction with the "To Catch a Predator" crew, such as "goofing off by waving rubber chickens in the faces of sting targets while forcing them to the ground and handcuffing them." Bartel says that when she "raised concerns" about controversial comments made by Perverted Justice's founder, David Corvo, executive producer of the newsmagazine "Dateline," responded, "We all know they're nuts." Bartel, who signed a four-year contract in March 2006, contends that soon after reporting her concerns about "To Catch a Predator" to NBC management, she was terminated effective December 24, 2006. While NBC told her she was part of a "mass layoff precipitated by general business factors," Bartel alleges that she was canned in retaliation for insistence on "ethical and accurate reporting on the Predator series." NBC, she adds, was "more interested in sensationalizing and dramatizing the Predator series for profit than news reporting." Bartel is seeking at least $1 million in damages from NBC. In a statement, NBC said it has been "transparent about our reporting" on the Predator series, for which audience reaction has been "overwhelmingly positive. NBC News is proud of its reporting and we believe this lawsuit is without merit." (10 pages)
 
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there never really is a teenage girl right?.. it's just some dude talkin' back to them sayin' they are a teenage girl.. so that's not technically illegal is it.. sounds like entrapment or someshit.
 
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|GOD|||ZILLA| said:
there never really is a teenage girl right?.. it's just some dude talkin' back to them sayin' they are a teenage girl.. so that's not technically illegal is it.. sounds like entrapment or someshit.
They get you on what they perceive is your "intention" once you show up to the house. They use the conversation transcripts to help "prove" intent.

That's how the laws are drawn up I guess (I'm no expert on the law).

It takes two to tango, lol
 
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i just dont understand gettin arrested when no crime is committed...i agree that these dudes are fucked and need to be handle but they arent actually commiting a crime...i guess its like the same thing as a prostitution sting tho...another stupid thing was one of the dudes got arrested and he didnt even go inside...he was just waitin close by so how did they know what he was there for
 
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i just dont understand gettin arrested when no crime is committed...i agree that these dudes are fucked and need to be handle but they arent actually commiting a crime...i guess its like the same thing as a prostitution sting tho...another stupid thing was one of the dudes got arrested and he didnt even go inside...he was just waitin close by so how did they know what he was there for
The crime that's committed is showing up after having the convo (I guess). It's the whole "intent" thing. It's one of those fine print laws. Gotta read the fine print, lol
 
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It's illegal to solicit sex from a minor on the internet. Period.
Not in every state.

That act by itself is illegal in some states but not all.

They can't do anything until the dimwits show up to the house. Showing up to the house (according to the law) shows "intent".

They said that on the show once. I think it was the Texas one where they actually went to a dude's house after he had the online convo (he was an assistance DA) and he offed himself.
 
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As a dad i like what they are doin cuz sick freaks like that need to be taken off the streets no kid should hafta go through and live with bein molested or raped by sick ass muthafuccaz dat prey on and kidnap lil kids i would kill a muthafucca dat did dat shit to my son as any parent would that loved they kids dis bitch needs to be shot herself wat kinda person doesnt want someone that preys on lil kids taken off the streets????. kids should be free to live a nice happy life without that ever happenin to them
 
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As a dad i like what they are doin cuz sick freaks like that need to be taken off the streets no kid should hafta go through and live with bein molested or raped by sick ass muthafuccaz like dat i would kill a muthafucca dat did dat shit to my son as any parent would that loved they kids dis bitch needs to be shot herself
i'ma just quote this for later.. hopefully it makes more sense in the mornin'/
 
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i just dont understand gettin arrested when no crime is committed...i agree that these dudes are fucked and need to be handle but they arent actually commiting a crime...i guess its like the same thing as a prostitution sting tho...another stupid thing was one of the dudes got arrested and he didnt even go inside...he was just waitin close by so how did they know what he was there for
so how would you like it if some 45year old dude was talkin to your 13 yr old daughter on her comp about havin sex and then goin and meetin her and him havin beer condoms and weed itz juss like the intent to distribute drugs you cant talk bout havin sex with a minor that is a form of rape ans is against the law so u cant talk to someone underage and mention sex an also if you dont know muthafuccaz in prison dont like them fools Scott peterson is a wanted man
 
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well obviously that 13 yr. old on dateline(40 yr. old white guy) is sayin' shit like.. "lets hook up, i wanna suck your dick.. and yada yada yada..".. does no one see my point?