Daddy Knows Best.

[L Mac-a-docious]

In his memoirs, "A World Transformed," written five years ago, George Bush Sr. wrote the following to explain why he didn't go after Saddam Hussein at the end of the Gulf War.


"Trying to eliminate Saddam...would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible....We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq....There was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."


If only his son could read .

 

[DaytonFamily]

He does and he doesnt take advice from the likes of you

 

[L Mac-a-docious]

He does and he doesnt take advice from the likes of you

Oh, well, does he take advice from the likes of his father? I guess we already know that answer.

 

[tadou]

12 years later, friend....do it in the context of 12 years later and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS more people killed.

 

[L Mac-a-docious]

You think the face of Iraq has been altered that much since then...I'm willing to wager that the words in Srs book will be foresight into what is to come with the current war. The most intriguing part to me was "There was no viable 'exit strategy.'" I feel that this will most certainly be a point of contention in the presant.

 

[L Mac-a-docious]

Plus, he wrote the book 5 yrs ago.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Not to mention Saddam's WMD stock was MASSIVE right before the Gulf War...we really came in at the tail end.

And the sanctions we placed on Iraq had nothing to do with the hundreds of thousands killed.

 

[tadou]

And the sanctions we placed on Iraq had nothing to do with the hundreds of thousands killed.

Ermmm...thanks?

No longer will there be an exit strategy from ANY country. This is a new kind of war that we will fight from now on: First wind, where the soldiers with balls fight and get slaughtered....second wind, where the soldiers disperse, mix with insurgents, and fight amongst civilians.

They no longer need to care about seizing the government control (or seizing it back); they simply run to the media and piss and moan, and tell horror stories about how women and children are being killed (neglecting to mention that they were shooting from apartment buildings and hospitals and such).

Terrorists want ATTENTION...they are attention whores, flat out. That is what drives them: Attention that is inextricably linked to FEAR.


Terrorists right now are like hecklers at a baseball game: nobody minds at first, especially if they're hecking the opposing team.....but they can only go so far, before they start to piss EVERYONE off and ruin the WHOLE GAME.

 

[DaytonFamily]

Ermmm...thanks?

No longer will there be an exit strategy from ANY country. This is a new kind of war that we will fight from now on: First wind, where the soldiers with balls fight and get slaughtered....second wind, where the soldiers disperse, mix with insurgents, and fight amongst civilians.

They no longer need to care about seizing the government control (or seizing it back); they simply run to the media and piss and moan, and tell horror stories about how women and children are being killed (neglecting to mention that they were shooting from apartment buildings and hospitals and such).

Terrorists want ATTENTION...they are attention whores, flat out. That is what drives them: Attention that is inextricably linked to FEAR.


Terrorists right now are like hecklers at a baseball game: nobody minds at first, especially if they're hecking the opposing team.....but they can only go so far, before they start to piss EVERYONE off and ruin the WHOLE GAME.

*Awaits L Mac-a-docious's or Wd's idiotic reply*

 

[FunK-3-FivE]

The war in Iraq really has nothing to do with the best interests of the average US citizen. Chances are you are more likely to die from rolling off a 3 foot high bed while asleep rather than become victim of a terrorist act. I think this is all just an overreaction to what happened on 9/11, or was 9/11 the fuel needed to justify the invasion of a country?
By the way American media made a huge deal out of something that happens in other countries on a regular basis. People in this country need to worry more about things like putting thier seat-belt on every time they get into a car and watch their cholesterol.

 

[tadou]

^^^ True....but then again, you're the kind of someone that would keep on walking if someone walked up and socked you in the face like the bitch you are.

"Oh, its no big deal"...."Gee, i don't want to overreact".......you must get pissed on all the time, don't you?

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

No longer will there be an exit strategy from ANY country. This is a new kind of war that we will fight from now on:

Wrong. We always have had exit strategies. Except in the case of GW and the Cabinet, who believed that they would not need one, as Iraqis would greet them with flowers, hugs, and kisses. There was much more planning put into how to defeat Hussein than how to leave the country. The Bush cabinet relied on the exile Chalabi, who has not been in Iraq for years, to give them an accurate take on the Iraq situation.

Chalabi is now under investigation for possibly leaking state secrets to Iran. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5040831/site/newsweek/ And was an obvious bad choice from the beginning. However, the bullheaded Rummy Rum who selected him, will not apologize, recant, or back off his choice, typical Bush White house action.

Terrorists want ATTENTION...they are attention whores, flat out.

Terrorists right now are like hecklers at a baseball game: nobody minds at first...before they start to piss EVERYONE off and ruin the WHOLE GAME.

We created these terrorists tadou. No matter what their tactics or ideas are, we are responsible for them, so saying that no matter what we do, terrorists will be terrorists and exit strategies are now defunct is complete revisionist garbage. Rumsfeld's doggish "Light troop" idea created the shortstack of American troops on the ground after we won the war, and possibly contributed to the creation of this entire situation. We could have done Iraq right and not been in the mess we were in now. Unfortunately, aging neo-cons who live in lala land reign supreme in the American white house.

 

[tadou]

^^ Do you honestly believe all that junk you type out on a daily basis? "Neo-Con", "Rummy", "LaLa Land"...you call Republicans "jingoists", when YOU spew out more of them than most.

I'd like to see the Afghanistan war plan, then. That is your homework.

 

[m.w.merlino]

Ermmm...thanks?

No longer will there be an exit strategy from ANY country. This is a new kind of war that we will fight from now on: First wind, where the soldiers with balls fight and get slaughtered....second wind, where the soldiers disperse, mix with insurgents, and fight amongst civilians.

They no longer need to care about seizing the government control.

You just described every colonialized attack on another country ever to take place.

 

[tadou]

^^^ No....not really. Even though Germany was fucked in WW2 against us, D-Day had THOUSANDS of deaths....COUNTLESS thousands. They didn't just hide amongst the Normandian population and then snipe and act like cowards later on.

Stop with the fuckin lies, Kryptic. You are boring.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Neo-Con: A term describing a certain conservative mindset held by many in the White House.

Rummy: The affectionate nickname given to our friend young Rumsfeld by George Bush.

LaLa land: The mindset of many of Bush's top advisors, who live in a paranoid WMD commie world.

Jingoist: Someone who believes the supremacy of their country over all others.

Festering Sore of Ape Shit: Bush's environmental policy.

Kill off Old People: Bush's healthcare reform plan.

No: Response Thomas J. Pickard got from Rumsfeld on September 10, 2001, asking for 58 million dollars to beef up the FBI.

September 9: The day congress proposed to move 600 million from Rummy's beloved "Star Wars" Missile Defense Program to counterterrorism. Rumsfeld threatens presidential veto.

White House Has Been Vandalized: False story created by Ari Fleischer and Bush administration to heap shame on Clinton Administration. Government investigation proves it false. Bush Admin never mentions it again.

Scared Sheep: The hand-picked White House press corps. "This is the worst it's ever been" remarked Thomas Ricks of the post, ten-year Washington vet. The White House does not allow any negative or even neutral coverage reporters to come along for the ride. According to reports, George W. Actually reads the Weekly Journal, the Michael Moore newspaper of the right, and believes in the "liberal media".

The Most Secretive VP ever: Dick Cheney, aka Darth Vader, whose secret energy meetings with Enron, Amoco and others have been kept sealed, as well as several other previously public VP meetings.

A far right Republican, a moderate Republican, a Libertarian, and a Centrist: The Fox version of Fair and Balanced.

"By Far the vast majority of my tax cuts go to those at the bottom end of the spectrum." Hilarious Bush claim.

5/3: Ratio of spoken Hannity words to Colmes words.

100/0: Ratio of Hannity announcing Hannity & Colmes headlines and adding "fair conservative spin".

95: Average IQ of state voting for Bush.

104: Average IQ of state voting for Gore.

0: Amount of times tadou listens to a word anyone else says.

14: Amount of times DaytonFamily masturbates daily.

 

[attay]

What George Bush Sr. is omitting is that it was actually in the best interest of the US to perpetuate Saddam's dictatorship as the ruling apparatus in Iraq at the end of the Gulf War -- it was a matter of maintaining the balance of power in the region. During the Gulf War USA had supported the Kurds in Northern Iraq and the Shiite Muslims in the South who rose to rebellion against Saddam, but at the end of the war, when they had the chance of toppling Saddam's regime, they were abandoned and left to be slaughtered by Saddam's troops. The reason behind this is was that HAD the US helped those groups overthrow Saddam, Iraq would have most likely disintegrated and thus considerably strengthened Iran and increased its influence over the region.

 

[FunK-3-FivE]

^^^ True....but then again, you're the kind of someone that would keep on walking if someone walked up and socked you in the face like the bitch you are.

"Oh, its no big deal"...."Gee, i don't want to overreact".......you must get pissed on all the time, don't you?

no.... i just don't overreact to things that don't pretain to me. you're idea of me had nothing to do with my reasoning that a terrorist attack harming you is highly unlikely.

 

[DaytonFamily]

no.... i just don't overreact to things that don't pretain to me. you're idea of me had nothing to do with my reasoning that a terrorist attack harming you is highly unlikely.

If a terrorist used a nuke on america or where ever u live would it pretain to you?

 

[Fridge]

If a terrorist used a nuke on america or where ever u live would it pretain to you?

If my country used a nuke on another country, would it be considered terrorism?