déjà vu - Florida ballot papers go missing

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Tens of thousands of postal ballots have gone missing in the US state of Florida, sparking fresh concern over irregularities in the poll campaign.

Authorities are investigating the apparent loss of 58,000 absentee forms in Broward County, north of Miami.

Florida was the centre of controversies which delayed the result in 2000, with George W Bush the eventual winner.

With five days until the poll, the presidential candidates are focusing their campaigns in crucial states.

The BBC's Rob Watson in Washington says Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida are seen as the most important of the 11 swing states - where either President Bush or Democratic challenger John Kerry could win.

The states are the most populous and therefore have the most electoral college votes, our correspondent notes.

The accepted wisdom is that whoever wins two out of those three states will win the election - and the latest opinion polls suggest all three are still fairly close, our correspondent adds.

'No blame game'

The missing ballots have fuelled an atmosphere of intense suspicion in Florida, with Democrats already backing nine separate lawsuits in the state, says the BBC's Justin Webb in Washington.

If the outcome is close and decides the result in the presidential race - and both of those eventualities are perfectly possible - it seems virtually certain that protracted legal battles will follow, our correspondent says.

Electoral officials in Broward County say they will send more ballots after being overwhelmed by calls from would-be voters, unable to get to the polls, who fear that their votes have been stolen.

A police investigation into the missing ballots has not uncovered any indication of criminal wrongdoing.

Meanwhile, the US postal service inspectorate said it was highly unlikely that 58,000 pieces of mail had just disappeared.

A spokesman said inspectors were trying to establish whether the ballots were ever delivered to the postal service.

Broward County elections supervisor Brenda Snipes said the situation "isn't a blame game".

"What we're concentrating on is getting the ballots to the voter," she told the Miami Herald newspaper.

Lawsuits

Campaigners are working to ensure that no-one loses the right to vote because of the missing ballots.

Democratic Party legislators have called on the electoral authorities to publish newspaper ads telling people of other options for voting.

They also accused the Republican-dominated state government of dirty tricks.

Governor Jeb Bush - the brother of the incumbent president - has rejected suggestions of bias.

In 2000, Broward gave Al Gore his biggest margin among Florida counties. He won 67% of the vote there, while losing the state to George W Bush by 537 votes.

"It looks like they're trying to steal the vote again," said Diane Glasser, vice-chairwoman of the Florida Democratic Party.

Both the Democrats and Republicans have already begun filing lawsuits in states across the US, challenging different aspects of the election process.

Allegations of intimidation

Voting rights activists in Florida say the state could also face acute problems with vote-counting and the process of casting ballots in next week's election.

Early voting, which has been going on for more than a week, shows that new electronic voting machine technology is much slower than the old punch-card method, the BBC's Daniel Lak reports from Miami.

A high turnout could mean huge delays, our correspondent says.

Other concerns include accusations of voter intimidation by party representatives outside polling stations during the early voting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3960679.stm
 
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I heard that fool Kerry and the dems have 10,000 lawyers nation wide just for the ensuing recounts, and lawsuits that are sure to follow...I think this may become standard practice for elections from here on out.
 

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I think Kerry and Bush are both bitches for the stupid shit they say and do. That's bullshit about Kerry gettin Nader off ballots too, completely fuckin bullshit!
 
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That's bullshit about Kerry gettin Nader off ballots too, completely fuckin bullshit!

I think he should have the right to run BUT I disagree with republicians who are using him to take away votes from Kerry. It's pretty shitty from both sides.

How would you feel if you played say a 3 on 3 basketball tourney and you were a favorite. There was this one team that could cost you the title because they were physical and they wanted to play but they didn't have the money. Your biggest rival paid for this team knowing that you would draw them in the first round and they would continually knee you in the sack to wear you down the whole game hurting your chances of winning it all. Would you want them to play?
 
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lol^^^that's rediculous.

How dare that independent, anti-war, anti-big business, candidate run for president! This is amerikkka! You only have TWO options! How dare Nader and other independent parties give the American people an alternative to war parties!

I hope Kerry wins just so people like you can learn how fucking corrupt the democrats are. lol @ nader hitting the democrats below the belt! lol @ people blaming nader for their own incompetent party!
 
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I think he should have the right to run BUT I disagree with republicians who are using him to take away votes from Kerry. It's pretty shitty from both sides.

How would you feel if you played say a 3 on 3 basketball tourney and you were a favorite. There was this one team that could cost you the title because they were physical and they wanted to play but they didn't have the money. Your biggest rival paid for this team knowing that you would draw them in the first round and they would continually knee you in the sack to wear you down the whole game hurting your chances of winning it all. Would you want them to play?
How would you feel if someone who supported your ethical and political views wanted to run for president in your nation's "free" elections, in a "government of the people, for the people, by the people," but was kept off the ballots by two monopolistic parties? Would you want to vote?
 
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jay deuce said:
I think he should have the right to run BUT I disagree with republicians who are using him to take away votes from Kerry. It's pretty shitty from both sides.

How would you feel if you played say a 3 on 3 basketball tourney and you were a favorite. There was this one team that could cost you the title because they were physical and they wanted to play but they didn't have the money. Your biggest rival paid for this team knowing that you would draw them in the first round and they would continually knee you in the sack to wear you down the whole game hurting your chances of winning it all. Would you want them to play?

lol @ that being compared to a game.
 
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I didn't say it was right but I believe Nader is being used by the Republicians. I don't mean to act like I think either side is right I'm just saying I think thats the way Kerry feels. Fuck you all know Bush is gonna play dirty, I say do what the fuck you can to win.

If Kerry fucks shit up then so be it. Bush just cannot win thats all I know.