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BARMY LEADER BANS GOLD TEETH AND BEARDS

Apr 15 2004

By Jon Kelly


HE has banned beards, gold teeth and circuses, renamed months of the year after himself and his mum and created a public holiday to celebrate melons.

He is Saparmurat Niyazov, Turkmenistan's president-for life and the world's craziest dictator.

With his bizarre obsessions, the man who calls himself Turkmenbashi - father of the Turkmens - makes Idi Amin look like John Major.

His more extravagant follies include erecting a giant gold statue of himself in the middle of the capital, Ashgabat, which revolves so that the sun is always behind it, blinding onlookers.

Now the 64-year-old has begun a crackdown on gold teeth, which he says are unsightly. He told his female subjects in a speech last month: "Whatever some young fellows tell you, white teeth look better."

He then reprimanded his subjects, saying: "I watched young dogs when I was young. They were given bones to gnaw. Those of you whose teeth have fallen out have not gnawed on bones. This is my advice."

So preoccupied is he with teeth that the Health Minister is a dentist. But his gold teeth directive is only the latest in a long line of bizarre edicts.

Circuses and ballet were outlawed in 2001, after he declared them "unnecessary".

And last year he ordered his subjects to build the world's biggest shoe to symbolise the great strides made by his regime. Made from the hide of 30 cows, it is 5.3 metres long.

Niyazov also commissioned the world's biggest hand-made carpet, which is 300 metres square and called The 21st Century: The Epoch Of The Great Saparmurat Niyazov.

At his command, airports, seaports, a meteorite, yoghurt and perfumes are all now named after him.

He has been quick to stifle opposition in this remote former Soviet republic, whose main exports are sulphur, carpets and melons.

One of Niyazov's particular dislikes is long hair on men, which he believes gives the "wrong impression".

Two months ago, barbers went on duty at all airports and border crossings with orders to give long-haired foreign visitors a short back and sides on arrival. He has also banned beards. Turkmens worried about getting old must have been relieved when Niyazov decreed that adolescence lasts until 25, youth goes on until 37 and old age doesn't start til 85.

The focus of Niyazov's eccentricity is his obsession with his dead mother, Gurbansoltanedzhe, who died in an earthquake in the capital in 1948. To show his devotion, he named the month of April after her and has rebranded bread using her name. For good measure, the whole of 2003 was officially dedicated to her.

The rest of the calendar has also been tweaked, with January renamed after himself and September named Rukhnama after the spiritual handbook he wrote for his subjects.

And Monday is now Main Day, Tuesday Young Day, Wednesday Favourable Day, Thursday Blessed Day, Saturday Spirituality Day and Sunday Rest Day. Friday is unchanged. He now plans to announce an eight-month year, with each month lasting 45 days.

A string of new public holidays now exist, too, including A Drop of Water Is A Grain Of Gold Day on April 6, the Day Of Neutrality on December 1, and Horse Day on April 27.

But most popular of all is Melon Day on July 10, instituted last year.

"This godsend has a glorious history," Turkmen TV announced. "Our great leader, who has a great love of his nation, has brought the name of the tasty melons to the level of a national holiday."

He is careful his subjects see their beloved leader in peak condition. When Niyazov started to go bald after a heart operation in 1997 he began taking Chinese herbal remedies to save them from what the "unpleasantness" of a bald leader. He also banned his ministers, who are forced to go on 22-mile walks, from smoking anywhere near him.

Niyazov also regards himself as a philosopher, and every schoolchild and government official must study his book, the Rukhnama, once a week. All Turkmens must also recite the oath of loyalty: "At the moment of my betrayal to my motherland, to her sacred banner, to the Great Turkmenbashi, let my breath stop."

In the classroom, Niyazov has banned all Western influences.

Born in 1940, the married father-of-two became Turkmenistan's Communist party chief in 1985. After independence in 1991 he was elected President and has clung to power ever since.

In 1999 he was made President for Life when 2,000 handpicked members of his People's Council "asked" him during a televised meeting. At first he declined but changed his mind after hearing deafening applause.

But for his five million subjects, 35 per cent of whom live below the poverty line, their bizarre autocrat is no laughing matter.

There are an estimated 20,000 dissidents locked away in labour camps. Members of the People's Assembly have sworn that enemies of Turkmenbashi will be "drawn and quartered," and their organs left in the desert.

The country's notorious human rights record led the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe to declare the lack of press freedom in Turkmenistan "unprecedented" in the organisation's history.

Niyazov has been accused of discrimination against minority groups and mismanaging the economy, leaving his nation trapped in poverty despite vast reserves of natural gas.

OTHER DERANGED DESPOTSCALIGULA - Roman Emperor, AD 37-41

WAS obsessed with his horse Incitatus, which was attended to by 18 servants. He tried to make it a senator and ordered silence in an entire neighbourhood to prevent the animal from being disturbed.

NERO - Roman Emperor, 54-86 AD

TRIED to kill his mother countless times, eventually succeeding. Suffered overpowering body odour. Would often sing in public and banned anyone from leaving the room while he did so.

OLIVER CROMWELL - Lord Protector, 1653-58 BRITAIN'S only dictator, Cromwell was a real killjoy. He banned Christmas, jailed people for swearing, and ordered that any boy caught playing football on a Sunday be whipped.

IDI AMIN - ran Uganda, 1971-79

AKA His Excellency Field Marshal Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa and Uganda, King of Scotland, master of beasts of the land and fish of the sea.

KIM JONG II - President of Nth Korea since 1997

OBSESSED with films, Kim kidnapped movie director Shin Sang-ok from the South in 1978, force-fed him grass and made him do a Marxist version of Godzilla - Pulgasari.


courtesy of the mirror.co.uk

i am not from the UK but i think the mirror is like one of those supermarket gossip newspapers like the national enquirer, so i dunno how factual any of these are. someone can elaborate on the legitimacy if they can, but then again even well respected media lie to the public so take it for whatever you like
 
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HERESY said:
add ANY american president to that list.

Why do you always have something negative to say about america? If you live in America then you need to go on ahead and leave. Everytime i see you talking you just dissin the U.S. go live in Iraq see how far you get. I bet you really do live in Iraq and even though i dont agree with the U.S. on everything they do i love this country with a passion and for you to come in here saying something lame really shows what you really are and thats a person who is hurt by america's actions or just an asshole which one are you?


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Rob S4 said:
Why do you always have something negative to say about america? If you live in America then you need to go on ahead and leave.
Fuck that shit...this country is based on the fundamental idea that we have the freedom, or better yet, the duty as citizens of this country, to question the leadership if we feel it falls short of our expectations...if you don't believe that, then maybe you should "go on ahead and leave." Because the repression of ideas counter to the govt. is the same tyranny that we ousted with Saddam....You aren't down with Saddam?...Are you?
 

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Rob S4 said:
Why do you always have something negative to say about america? If you live in America then you need to go on ahead and leave. Everytime i see you talking you just dissin the U.S. go live in Iraq see how far you get. I bet you really do live in Iraq and even though i dont agree with the U.S. on everything they do i love this country with a passion and for you to come in here saying something lame really shows what you really are and thats a person who is hurt by america's actions or just an asshole which one are you?


Who The Boss Playa- Slim Thug

WHY DO I ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT AMERICA? I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE NEGATIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT AMERICA. I SIMPLY HAVE NOTHING POSITIVE TO SAY ABOUT AMERICA.... :confused:


IF I LIVE IN AMERICA I SHOULD GO AHEAD AND LEAVE? QUICK QUESTION WHERE DO YOU SUGGEST I GO? KNOWING MOST OF MY PEOPLE COME FROM AFRIKA AND GERMANY WHERE SHOULD I GO? EVERYTIME YOU SEE ME I'M NOT DISSING THE U.S. AND IF I'M DISSING THE U.S. SO BE IT. I SIMPLY BRING TO LIGHT WHAT YOU SEEM TO BE IN THE DARK ABOUT. DO YOU CARE TO DISCUSS PRESCOTT BUSH AND HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH THE NAZI PARTY? OF COURSE NOT. DO YOU CARE TO DISCUSS FREEWAY RICK AND THE CIA'S INVOLVEMENT WITH DRUGS? NOPE. DO YOU CARE TO ELABORATE ON THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, TRILATERAL COMMISSION AND HOW THEY CONTROL/OWN THE MEDIA? SHOULD WE DISCUSS THE CREATION OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND HOW IT HAS ROBBED AMERICAN PEOPLE? WAIT HERES A GOOD ONE....HOW ABOUT WE DISCUSS ELITE FAMILIES AND HOW THEY HAVE A MONOPOLY OVER THE PRINTING OF AMERICAN CURRENCY....



GO LIVE IN IRAQ AND SEE HOW FAR I GET? WELL IF I WENT TO IRAQ AS AN EMPLOYEE OF A BUSH OWN/RELATED COMPANY I WOULD GET *VERY* FAR. $$$$$$$$$$$$



NO I DON'T LIVE IN IRAQ BUT IF I DID LIVE IN IRAQ I WOULD FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE.
SO YOU LOVE AMERICA WITH A PASSION? SO? WHAT IS THAT TO ME? I'M SUPPOSED TO BE IMPRESSED BY YOUR BLANTENT ACTS OF BLIND PATRIOTISM? I'M SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY FOR YOU? WAIT I GET IT NOW! I'M SUPPOSED TO WAVE FLAG'S AND RESPECT YOUR "RIGHTS" AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN RIGHT? ***WRONG***!!!!! I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS FOR AMERICA. THEY MEAN NOTHING TO ME SO WE SHOULD CHALK IT AS USELESS INFO AND WASTE OF BANDWIDTH.



WHAT IN YOUR OPINION IS "LAME"? THE FACT THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS COUNTRY, WHAT IT WAS FOUNDED ON OR WHERE IT'S HEADED? I SAY LAME THINGS BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT OR YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT? WHICH IS IT?


SO A PERSON HURT BY AMERICAS ACTIONS AND ASSHOLE? THOSE ARE MY CHOICES? SOME WOULD SAY BOTH. SOME WOULD SAY THE FIRST...SOME ARE HELL BENT ON GROUPING ME IN THE "ASSHOLE" GROUP.


I'M HERESY AND I'M A HERETIC. LOOK IT UP IN THE DICTIONARY JUNIOR.




:HGK:
 

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^^^^^ NO I DON'T THINK HE'S LIKE EVERY US PRESIDENT. I SEE NO INDICATION OF HIM BENEFITING FROM THE SLAVE TRADE. I SEE NO INDICATION OF HIM BENEFITTING FROM THE GENOCIDE OF CULTURES AND CIVILIZATIONS.


HOWEVER HISTORY SHOWS HOW AMERICAN PRESIDENTS BENEFITTED FROM SLAVERY.....ALAS....IT'S THE AMERICAN WAY!



:HGK:
 

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^^^every president? i mean, dont get me wrong, this history has made its a lot of its profit off minorities, but...im not sure slavery still has its effects in that way.


all im saying is, is thats a pretty cynical comment.
 

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YES SLAVERY STILL HAS EFFECTS ON SOCIETY. AMERICAN PRESIDENTS HAVE BENEFITTED FROM SLAVE LABOR AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH RECENT ONES OWNED SLAVES. THEY OWN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN CITIZEN. WE CAN'T LEAVE OUT THE FACT THAT THEY BENEFIT FROM FOREIGN CHILD LABOR AND SWEAT SHOPS.


BTW I DIDN'T SAY EVERY PRESIDENT OWNED SLAVES. I SAID ADD EVERY PRESIDENT TO THAT LIST. IF YOU CAN NAME ONE GOOD PRESIDNT I'M SURE I COULD NAME 10-100 THINGS HE DID TO OPRESS THE UNFORTUNATE, MAKE MONEY FOR HIMSELF AND ESTABLISH HIS AGENDA....


:HGK:

PS PLEASE DON'T START WITH BILL CLINTON. THAT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR YOU.
 

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^^^haha, i wouldnt name Clinton...im not naming names, and im not saying u said "every president owned slaves"...im just stating that, in general, ur right, most presidents made some sort of profit off of things like slavery, indirectly or directly....
 
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Turkmenistan bans recorded music

Turkmen President Saparmurat Niyazov has banned the playing of recorded music at all public events, on television and at weddings.

In a decree, Mr Niyazov said there was a need to protect Turkmen culture from "negative influences".

This is the latest move by the authoritarian president to minimise foreign influence in the isolated former Soviet state, analysts say.

He has already banned opera and ballet, describing them as "unnecessary".

NIAYZOV'S DECREES
banned opera and ballet
forbade long hair or beards for young men
banned car radios
required video monitors in all public places
closed all hospitals, except in the capital, Ashgabat
renamed some calendar months after the president and his mother

'True culture'

Mr Niyazov's decree was published in the official daily newspaper Neitralny Turkmenistan (Neutral Turkmenistan).

It banned sound recordings "at musical performances on state holidays, in broadcasts by Turkmen television channels, at all cultural events organised by state... in places of mass assembly and at weddings and celebrations organised by the public".

The president was quoted by the newspaper as saying the move aimed to "protect true culture, including the musical and singing traditions of the Turkmen people".

And in comments broadcast on state television, Mr Niyazov told his cabinet:

"Unfortunately, one can see on television old voiceless singers lip-synching their old songs.

"Don't kill talents by using lip-synching... create our new culture."

Personality cult

Mr Niyazov - known as Turkmenbashi, or father of the Turkmen - has ruled the desert state since the Soviet times.

He has created a vast personality cult around himself, issuing decrees regulating behaviour in all walks of life.

In 2001, Mr Niyazov - proclaimed the president for life - called for youths not to get gold tooth caps, also urging a crackdown on young men wearing beards or long hair.

Pictures of the president adorn public buildings and his book - intended as a moral and spiritual guide - is compulsory reading throughout Turkmenistan.

To many, his rule is alarmingly authoritarian, BBC Eurasia editor Catherine Davis says.

People who know him say he appears to believe he was sent by God to lead his nation into what he calls a "Golden Age", our editor says.

Beyond the elaborate building projects in the capital lies an impoverished country, where surveillance is commonplace and any public opposition a rare event, she adds.
 
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Rob S4 said:
Why do you always have something negative to say about america? If you live in America then you need to go on ahead and leave. Everytime i see you talking you just dissin the U.S. go live in Iraq see how far you get. I bet you really do live in Iraq and even though i dont agree with the U.S. on everything they do i love this country with a passion and for you to come in here saying something lame really shows what you really are and thats a person who is hurt by america's actions or just an asshole which one are you?


Who The Boss Playa- Slim Thug
The Rob S4 post-structure:

1. Why do you always have something negative to say about america? If you live in America then you need to go on ahead and leave. Everytime i see you talking you just dissin the U.S. go live in Iraq see how far you get.

Work yourself into a well-controlled frenzy, and start generalizing. (Works no matter the topic)

2. I bet you really do live in Iraq and even though i dont agree with the U.S. on everything they do i love this country with a passion

Bring up points that have either very little, or no relation to the topic. (in this case, hatred of the president being morphed into a hatred of the country)

3. for you to come in here saying something lame really shows what you really are and thats a person who is hurt by america's actions or just an asshole which one are you?

Call them a non-threatening name, (lame can be replaced with wack, wiggidy wack, not so cool man, immature, "son" or "kid", etc.) then complete your thesis by grouping the person into non-sensical groups.

4. Who The Boss Playa- Slim Thug

Make sure to end your post with a random lyric from any gangsta rapper. This will ensure that even when you try to look intelligent, youre still "down".
 
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Turkmenistan sounds like a happening place. I may visit. Hell, I may relocate. I'm getting mighty fed up of having to deal with long haired guys and beards in the US. You and your recorded music.. pfft.. I'll get a picture of me with the giant shoe, and the golden statue to post on here.