Cosa Nostra

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Apr 15, 2004
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what yall kno bout the cosa nostra? i didnt know alot, but i saw some intrestin shit the other day..they still didnt catch bernardo provenzano the boss from cosa nostra in sicilia italy, they dont even know how he looks like becos the only pic from him they got is maybe 40 years old.
bernardo came in the cosa nostra after second world war, he killed alot mothafucs so he got big, when his boss got catched from police by unknown reasons he was the boss from cosa nostra, he erased alota clans and their families and children that they cant revenge their fathers or husbands.(i think something with 5000victims, but im not sure).older mafias wouldnt kill children and wimen cos they think they men of honor.. alotta ppl from cosa nostra got catched but never provenzano, so alotta ppl think hes connected with italian politics
 

shep

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i know a lot about the mafia, which is different than La Cosa Nostra (which means, this thing of ours). La Cosa Nostra never operated in the united states, even though it is commonly believed that it did. What you are talking about is the American Mafia, a totally seperate entity that really had no connection and was not run my the mother country. The first "mafia" encounters came in the 1890s in New Orleans. It then spread to the Little Italys of most of the major cities.
 

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I thought the 'mafia' was only in Sicily. At least thats what Roemer said in the Tony Accardo biography. The Mafia was a Sicilian Mob or something, I cant remember what he said. But you should read the book, its called Accardo:The Genuine Godfather, hes probably the most influential mobster next to Meyer Lansky in the shaping of how the mobs were ran. Hes also the least known about and ran the Chi Mob for over 50 years
 

Kyle

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'Mafia' is just the Sicilians but other Southern Italians can be involved in the American Cosa Nostra
In Naples, they have the Camorra instead

Cosa Nostra is an American thing, not Sicilian. but they co-operate in some cases, such as the Bonanno family, where they did alot of heroin business together

that Provenzano was partners with Lucciano Leggio and Toto Riina... but those 2 are either dead or in jail... i forget, but now he's in charge of the Sicilian Mafia. Leggio was the boss for years though and was behind that Mafia war in, i think the early 80's. it was so one-sided though, of the hundreds of murders in a few short years .... they were all on the other side

i've read countless books about Cosa Nostra but as for the actual Mafia in Sicily, the best book i've read on it is "Octopus: the long reach of the international sicilian mafia" check it out
 
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I think La Cosa Nostra was a Sicilian thing, which would explain why all the American Crime Families always said shit like..."We are not La Cosa Nostra". Either way, they're gangsters for real.

I remember the Bonanno family, they moved out here to San Jose a long time ago. In elementary school, my principles name was Margaret Bonanno. I'm not sure if there was any relation, but it wouldn't surprise me....Mrs. Bonanno was strict as fuck.
 

Kyle

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"cosa nostra is not an american thing. read American Mafia: a history of its rise to power"

"I think La Cosa Nostra was a Sicilian thing, which would explain why all the American Crime Families always said shit like..."We are not La Cosa Nostra".


^^it's obviously a Sicilian phrase and made up predominatley of Sicilians , but it is the mafia in America, not in Sicily,.....maybee it has some relevance in Sicily but i know for sure that it's predominatley an american thing...



"I remember the Bonanno family, they moved out here to San Jose a long time ago."

yeah, Joe Bonanno's son, Bill, moved out there in the 70's or 80's, and although he claimed to just live there, there is speculation that the Bonanno's were trying to start a wing of their family out west, nothing has been proven though but i think he lives in Arizona now. i read both Joe's book 'a man of homor' and Bill's book 'bound by honor' both are recomended
it's crazy how most bosses either get killed or go to jail.... but Joe died at 97 years old, peacefully retired
 

shep

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Here is a VERY brief history of the mafia. This was for a gen ed class, so not much real research was done, just a few books, as it only had to be like 4 pages

There are many different theories as to exactly where and when the Mafia as we know it today showed up. What historians do know is that it is, and has been, a strong force in Europe for hundreds of years. It wasn’t until it moved to America that it became the behemoth it is now. I will examine the beginnings of the Mafia in Europe, the migration into the United States, and the events surrounding the Mafia in the United States.
Many historians believe that the Mafia originated out of the Crusades. The Knights that would go to fight in the Crusades would come back and rule southern Italy and other parts of Europe. The Knights of Saint John, organized in the eighth century would turn to criminal actions. The Teutoning Knights, in the 12th Century, would rule Eastern Europe. Even though these groups would control criminal activities in Europe, it was still not the birth of the modern Mafia.
Until the eighteenth century, many Sicilian nobles actually resided on their country estates. This had changed by the 1700s, with most of the more important titled aristocrats by then resident in Palermo, Catania and Messina. Under these circumstances, Sicily's aristocratic absentee landlords often entrusted administration of their rural estates to managers called gabelloti. Until 1812, the purchase of a feudal property made its holder the count or baron of that fief, and in this way numerous gabelloti themselves became barons, by purchasing feudal lands from the men they worked for. The gabelloti were not aristocrats in the true sense, but far worse than this fact were the methods they used to intimidate the poor peasants into working the estates for poor wages. This often entailed the use of local intermediaries who made it their own business to manage such matters. These intermediaries, who today might be considered local Mafia bosses, rarely murdered anybody; they delegated that job to their underlings. In this way the myth of the "benevolent" Mafioso was born. It wasn’t only the Crusades that helped give birth to the Mafia, but also the Spanish Inquisition.
The establishment of the Inquisition was another factor that lead to the formulation of the Mafia. Though, the Inquisition started as an attack on heresy, it soon took heresy as any questioning of the church. The result of this was people becoming imprisoned by the church. The poor man's only defense to the Inquisition was the Mafia. Because Sicilians didn't like having Spain rule them, they decided to rule the country on their own. They developed their own law enforcements and protective societies that would evolve into the Mafia.
The Mafia's presence in Italy was always felt, even though they were invisible. Because it wasn't until 1861 that Italy became a nation, it was the Mafia that had control over the different territories in the country, and the entire country itself. When Italy became a nation, the Mafia gained even more powerful, taking the poor man's vote to the highest political bidder. The Mafia's power took a blow when Mussolini came to power. During his term of power, the mafia was nearly non-existent. When the fascist regimes fled Sicily after the Allied invasion, the Mafia regained control of the country. At the same time, powerful Mafias were springing up in the United States.
The Mafia is thought to have sprung up in America as early as the 1880s with the first influx of Italian immigrants. Since the immigrants usually congregated together in boroughs called “Little Italys” in some of the biggest cities, such as New York, Chicago, and New Orleans, the immigrated Mafia bosses saw the immigrants as easy prey. One of the first run-ins the law enforcement had with the Mafia took place in New Orleans in 1890. A police detective was investigating a string of murders and came up with the Mafia being the culprit. The police detective was later killed because of said investigation. Because the Mafia had infiltrated even the New Orleans Police Department, an investigation was reluctantly being pursued. The public’s outrage led to police action, of course the Mafia sprung into action as well. The “Mafiosi” were tried, but found to be innocent. But then an odd thing happened. The policemen disappeared, and the Mafiosi were murdered. The events were broadcast in newspapers around the world including The London Times.
The Mafia started to get really big in the 1920s. In 1920, Prohibition came into effect in the United States. It outlawed all alcohol. Of course people still wanted to drink, so speakeasies, or bootlegged liquor joints sprung up everywhere. Al Capone, the head of the Mafia in Chicago, became the most famous and successful bootlegger. At the age of 26, Al Capone became the leader of one of the world’s largest crime families. He oversaw over 1000 members of the Capone Mob, most of which were ruthless killers. Capone was a very popular man and was often seen in the presence of movie stars and high powered politicians. Capone was finally brought up on charges after months of investigation by Elliot Ness and his group dubbed “The Untouchables.” The charges were not for gambling, prostitution, or even extortion, but instead Capone was brought up on tax evasion charges. Capone was so careful with his day to day business that tax evasion was the only thing that investigators could pin on him. He was convicted and served seven and a half years. At the end of Prohibition, the National Crime Syndicate saw the rise of a new group in America. The purpose of this group was to kill people for mob bosses. It was called Murder, Inc.
Murder Inc. as it was called by the press, was a chapter of a so-called National Crime Syndicate in the USA. It was an enforcement arm that specialized in contract killing. It operated from the end of Prohibition until the 1950s. Murder, Inc. was established in New York and initially led by Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel and Meyer Lansky, who also supplied the first killers from their gangs of Jewish and Italian gangsters in Brooklyn, New York. Later it was controlled by Louis Buchalter and Albert Anastasia. They reported to higher Syndicate bosses. Most of the killers were recruited from the gangs of Ocean City, Brownsville and East New York. They accepted murder contracts from mob bosses all around the United States.
The Murder, Inc. idea was based on the fact that killers would be strangers to the city, and sometimes even their victims, and therefore harder to trace. Police would concentrate on local suspects when killers were already en route to their hometowns. They killed quickly and effectively with numerous methods. Practically all the targets were informers or gang members who had embezzled mob money. The killers were paid a regular salary, plus an average fee of $1000-5000 per killing. Their families also received monetary benefits. If they were caught, the mob would supply the best lawyers. Murder, Inc. operated for a long time before pressure from investigators caused them to shut down business. When Murder, Inc. closed its doors to business, assassinations deals were made among the mob bosses.
The Mafia continued to grow despite minor setbacks from law enforcement. Not only were they growing in numbers, but also in money, power, and politics. The Mafia set up casinos in Cuba, and eventually in the United States in a desert town that would become Las Vegas. The casinos were run by mob bosses from all over the United States. They came from places such as Miami, Chicago, and New York. The mob saw millions upon millions of dollars in profit from the casinos. With profit came power, especially in politics. The Mafia was able to put all sorts of politicians, judges, and law enforcement into their pockets, especially with the amount of money they were making in Vegas, and Cuba before the Cuban Revolution. Mob bosses were hanging out with all sorts of celebrities, including Mr. Frank Sinatra.
Frank Sinatra was a good friend of Chicago mob boss Sam Giancana. It was Sam Gianacana, along with Sinatra, the Rat Pack, and thousands of dead Chicagoans that helped get John F. Kennedy elected. Of course, Giancana wasn’t the only mob boss friend of Sinatra’s. He also held acquaintances with Lucky Luciano. When police in Naples, Italy, searched Lucky Luciano’s home several years after the Havana getaway, they found a gold cigarette case with the inscription, “To my dear pal Lucky, from his friend, Frank Sinatra.”
Even though Sinatra and his pal Sam Giancana helped get JFK elected, Kennedy certainly did not show his appreciation. As soon as he became president, Kennedy made his brother Robert Attorney General. The major point in Robert Kennedy’s platform was cracking down and putting pressure on organized crime. That is exactly what he did when he became Attorney General. He launched investigations on the mob and angered them greatly. Some people believe that this was the reason that JFK was assassinated. Another big blow to the Mafia came with the passing of the RICO Act in 1970. The RICO Act provided for extended penalties for criminal acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. It was enacted as Title IX of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970. The Mafia began to decline in numbers, leaving only a few major cites to have a major influence.
 

shep

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New York was the one city that continued to have major mob influence all the way up into the 1990s. Whereas other cities might have some influence, the Gambino Family in New York remained the most powerful. The head of the Gambino Family was John Gotti. Gotti was virtually untouchable, but when the mobsters started becoming sloppy, the authorities were able to pinpoint several murders on Sammy “The Bull” Gravano. In return for a lighter sentence, Gravano testified that Gotti had ordered the killings of all the men that Gravano murdered. John Gotti was found guilty and sent to prison. He spent the rest of his life there, but was transported to Springfield, Missouri to be near his wife. The reason they allowed the transport was because he was dieing of cancer. On June 10, 2002, John Gotti died, and the throne of the Gambino Family went to his son, John Gotti Junior. Junior didn’t last long, and eventually went to prison. Gotti Senior’s brother Peter took over, and also went to jail, on extortion charges. The Gotti line, and the Gambino Family name became a disgrace and the Mafia in New York lost most of its power.
For so many years, the Mafia was a major influence not only in Italian society, but with increased immigration into America, it became a powerhouse in America as well. No one can doubt the effect of the Mafia on American society. All one needs to do is take a look at all the movies that have Mafia themes to them. The number of Mafia movies is amazing. Not only movies, but the amount of books written on the subject could take you a lifetime to read. It is one of the fascinations and obsessions America has. Too often we glorify the Mafia when in all reality it is not something to mess with. We have witnessed the power and influence of the Mafia, though its power has dissolved over the years, its mystique lives on.

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Smith, Jr., Dwight C. The Mafia Mystique. New York: Basic Books, Inc., Publishers, 1975.
 

Jar

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JLMACN said:
IN KANSAS CITY....THE MAFIA IS STILL REAL BIG...
.....NO JOKE..

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did they really used to bury people in the cement at that place on the Plaza?
 
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as for papa Bonano he was a real business man, hated resorting to violence, how can you tax or sell products to people that are dead, he allways tried to work things out between families, he had his head on straight thats why no body had any beef with him

and as for the KC mob still around? thats gotta be the funniest thing iv herd all day. everybody nowadays thinks that a cartel or raketeering group is mafia, mafia this mafia that. There may be made guys all over the country but the only true still live and running gangs would be on the upper east coast, and even they are dangling by a thread,Guiliani fucking put the foot down for OC buisness
 

Stealth

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If you guys want some good information, read "The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano". That's all I'm gonna say. Fuck this thread. Does it piss you off when a bunch of white netcees come on the internet talking about Bloods and Crips? Cuz it pisses me off when a bunch of people on here talk about the mafia like they know what they're talking about.