Contrary to Naysayers - U.S. and Coalition is Winning the War on Terror

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Jul 13, 2005
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/14/AR2005071401030.html?nav=rss_nation

Osama bin Laden's standing has dropped significantly in some key Muslim countries, while support for suicide bombings and other acts of violence has "declined dramatically," according to a new survey released today.

In a striking finding, predominantly Muslim populations in a sampling of six North African, Middle East and Asian countries are also as alarmed as Western nations about Islamic extremism, which is now seen as a threat in their own nations too, the poll found. ...

Compared with previous surveys, the new poll also found growing majorities or pluralities of Muslims surveyed now say democracy can work in their countries and is not just a political system for the West. Support for democracy was in the 80 percent range in Indonesia, Jordan, Lebanon and Morocco and the highest score at 43 percent in Pakistan and 48 percent in Turkey, where significant numbers were unsure.

"They are not just paying lip service. They are saying they specifically want a fair judiciary, freedom of expression and more than one party to participate in elections. It wasn't just a vague concept," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center and director of the project. "U.S. and Western ideas about democracy have been globalized and are in the Muslim world."
Great news! I was especially happy to see "U.S. and Western ideas about democracy have been globalized and are in the Muslim world."
 
Jan 9, 2004
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Another example of our efficient war on terror:

Lawyer sues US over false arrest
A US lawyer wrongfully arrested over the Madrid train bombings in 2004 is suing the US government.
Brandon Mayfield, 38, was held for two weeks when the FBI linked him to fingerprints found in Spain - but later said it was wrong and apologised.

Mr Mayfield, a convert to Islam, says he was targeted because he is a Muslim.

The Justice Department rejects the charge, saying he was arrested "because fingerprint examiners believed his print to match the Spanish print".

Mr Mayfield's lawyers say they have an internal FBI e-mail that contradicts the government's official position.

The e-mail, from FBI spokeswoman Beth Anne Steele, said the agency had "tied" Mr Mayfield to the attacks but that "there is not enough other evidence to arrest him on a criminal charge".

Material witness

A day after the email was sent, Mr Mayfield was arrested as a material witness.

People arrested as material witnesses do not have the same rights as those charged with criminal offences.

Mr Mayfield is also challenging the sweeping post-9/11 anti-terror law known as the Patriot Act.

He says it allowed law enforcement officials to tap his phone in violation of the US constitution.

When the lawsuit goes to court on Friday his lawyers will ask a judge to order the government to hand over the evidence it gathered against him.

The Madrid attacks on 11 March 2004 killed 191 and injured hundreds of people.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/americas/4685855.stm

Published: 2005/07/15 12:19:14 GMT
 
Jul 13, 2005
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A man is arrested and claims he is innocent? I've never heard of such a thing! He should have just told the cynical arresting agents that they had the wrong guy! They would have believed him, just like you do!

He says it allowed law enforcement officials to tap his phone in violation of the US constitution.
The man incriminates himself discussing terrorist ops on a wiretap, and wants it thrown out of court. Yeah, sounds like a real saint. The arrest was obviously justified.

And your article had nothing to do with the subject other than "LOL I HATE BUSH." Remember. Discussion, not spam.
 
Dec 25, 2003
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Man falling off bridge - proof of the safety of stairs

Some excerpts from the article itself -

Confidence in Osama bin Laden has declined markedly in some countries, and fewer believe suicide bombings that target civilians are justified in the defense of Islam," the poll concluded.

The one exception is attitudes toward suicide bombings of U.S and Western targets in Iraq, a subject on which Muslims were divided. Roughly half of Muslims in Lebanon, Jordan and Morocco said such attacks are justifiable, while sizable majorities in Turkey, Pakistan and Indonesia disagreed. Yet, support for suicide bombings in Iraq still declined by as much as 20 percent compared with a poll taken last year.

In May 2003, many Muslims "saw a worldwide threat to Islam and [bin Laden] represented opposition to the West and the United States," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center and project director. "Tempers have since cooled."

These are eye-catching results, but not surprising," said Augustus Richard Norton, a Middle East specialist at Boston University. "Muslims, like non-Muslims, are plugged into the world. . . . It is one thing to be caught up in the supposed glamour of attacking the superpower or global bully, but it is quite another to have to pay the consequences economically, politically -- not to mention personally. This is what has happened in places like Indonesia, Morocco, Pakistan and Turkey, where many people now see extremist Islam as a threat to their lives, not a fantasy game of kick Uncle Sam."

The realization that suicide bombing and militant jihad is a lot less glamorous than first thought has nothing at all to do with the United States or their actions.

Yet solid majorities in five of the six Muslim countries surveyed -- Indonesia, Jordan, Lebanon, Pakistan and Turkey -- also now have unfavorable views of the United States. In the sixth, Morocco, views are divided. The governments in all six countries are U.S. allies and receive U.S. aid.

Unfavorable views of the United States - Is this proof of an ideological win over "terrorist" Islamic movements?

Three factors, Kohut said, contributed to the notable shift in views on bin Laden and suicide bombings: incidents of terrorism in Muslim countries, an increase in positive feelings about events at home, and the passage of time since the 2003 survey conducted after the U.S. invasion of Iraq

In other words, they aren't so mad about Iraq since it is less of a fresh wound.

The decline in support for suicide bombings was largest in Indonesia, which has witnessed deadly bombings at a Marriott hotel in Jakarta and at a Bali tourist hotel -- attacks that seriously affected tourism and foreign investment. Jordan was the only country where the majority surveyed -- 57 percent -- still support terrorist acts in defense of Islam, possibly because the majority Palestinian population is tied to the conflict with Israel, Kohut said.

Israel, a U.S. ally, is itself fighting the "war on terror". Bush called Ariel Sharon a "man of peace". This is our staunch middle eastern ally. This can only spell S-U-C-C-E-S-S for the US.
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
Unfavorable views of the United States - Is this proof of an ideological win over "terrorist" Islamic movements?
Well, it's satisfying. We don't need a bunch of tinpot dictators who love us. We need tinpot dictators who realize that terrorism is not the path to take.

WHITE DEVIL said:
Israel, a U.S. ally, is itself fighting the "war on terror". Bush called Ariel Sharon a "man of peace". This is our staunch middle eastern ally. This can only spell S-U-C-C-E-S-S for the US.
Screw the moslems on Israel, quite bluntly. They're the only country in that region really worth saving.