Conspiracy theories

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THE answer is of course... our government has conspired things many times before... it's in your history books... we all know of conspiracies our government has carried out... why would they suddenly stop??

Now i don't know about a New World Order.. haha thats kinda crazy i'll have to read up on that... but i've been over this many times before... people just perceive the word conspiracy to mean some crazy plot that ultra-liberals believe the government is pulling
 
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doesnt conspiracy bascisally mean "to decieve"?

I dont know what to beleive...so i just stay out of it...live my life...and dont give a fuck...but its interesting to hear some others takes on the world around them...some i think take it a lil TOO far...paranoia can kill ya!!!
 
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WHOA.. this shit is crazy ya'll have to read up on it...

The question isn't whether or not the New World Order and Illuminati is some bullshit... the question is whether or not it still exists and is still dominating after it's being banned by the Bavarian Government in Germany in 1787.... but heres the thing... Thomas Jefferson openly advocated allowing the Order of the Illuminati to set up shop in the U.S. in the same time period. So there is a high probability still exists as the Bavarian Government had no control over foreign Illuminati operations.

I read up on a bunch of it and posted it up some good shit in that thread... peep it.
 
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Yeah, it's a well documented fact the Illuminati did exist. I even posted a couple documents from George Washington refering to the Illuminati. Matter of fact, Here it is.

I was reading Trotsky's 'My Life' and in the book he briefly referred to the Illuminati. He said they were sort of a revolutionary party but didnt really go into detail on what he meant.
 
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^^^ yea i read that the New World Order was rooted in same theories and beliefs that Marx got some of his shit from... some dude whose name starts with an "H"... I dont wanna look it up right now.
 
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just thought i'd post a snip of the shit so people can better understand what the Illuminati is...read it all

Origins of the Illumaniti and New World Order

The Illuminati as well as the Order of Skull and Bones (a possible American branch of Illuminati) have definately very deep roots in world domination... their members many of them having been world leaders and major influences. Although these are secret societies of the New World Order, over the last 400 years evidence has been gathered, every now and then a mistake is made and a secret exposed.

According to Weishaupt (founder of the Order of the Illumaniti 1776) the New World Order can only succeed in dominating if outsiders do not know it's agenda or that it even exists... you can't bring down a competitor if you don't know they exist. Thus world domination is only possible through such a secret order.

History records that on May 1, 1776, Dr. Adam Weishaupt founded the Bavarian Order of the ILLUMINATI. Weishaupt was a Professor of Jewish Canon Law at the University of Ingolstadt in Bavaria, Germany. He became a high-ranking member of The Order Of The Jesuits, whom he subsequently left to form his very own organization at the clear behest of the newly formed “House Of Rothschild.”

It was Weishaupt's belief that only a chosen few could qualify for enough "illumination" to guide and rule the world.* The problem was, where could he find enough intellectual “light bearers” to start the ball rolling?* He subsequently found them in various lodges and orders, such as the various Masonic lodges, the Rosicrucian Order and other legitimate and sincere orders of antiquity.* This is confirmed yet again by Edith Starr-Miller “As the organization of the Illuminati developed, so did its ambitions, which ended in a plot to subvert Freemasonry to its aim of world domination by any and all means, including mass deception……. After obtaining control of certain Masonic Lodges, Weishaupt and his associates recklessly vaunted their growing power.”*

In 1785, a bolt of lightning struck a courier en route to Paris from Frankfort-on-the-Main. A tract written by Adam Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati, "Original Shift in Days of Illuminations," was recovered from the dead messenger, containing the secret society's long-range plan for "The New World Order through world revolution".

The Bavarian Government outlawed the society and in 1787 published the details of The Illuminati conspiracy in "The Original Writings of the Order and Sect of the Illuminati."

In Adam Weishaupt's own words:

"By this plan, we shall direct all mankind in this manner. And, by the simplest means, we shall set all in motion and in flames. The occupations must be so allotted and contrived that we may, in secret, influence all political transactions."

There is disagreement among scholars as to whether or not the Illuminati survived its banishment. Nevertheless, the group had been quite successful in attracting members and had allied itself with the extensive Masonic networks.


Many members of the lodges and various orders, realising that they and their societies and organizations had been duly infiltrated, warned Weishaupt to discontinue his activities.* Fortunately for Weishaupt, Thomas Jefferson, in 1784, had recently been named the United States Ambassador to France.* Jefferson, an avowed Mason, favoured Weishaupt's “New Order” and became sympathetic to his cause.* This “New Order” was now guaranteed to continue, where it eventually dominated all others and became known as the “Order of the Illuminati.”

John Robison, a professor of natural philosophy at Edinburgh University in Scotland and a member of a Freemason Lodge, said that he was asked to join the Illuminati. After study, he concluded the purposes of the Illuminati were not for him.

In 1798, he published a book called "Proofs Of A Conspiracy":

"An association has been formed for the express purpose of rooting out all the religious establishments and overturning all the existing governments.... the leaders would rule the World with uncontrollable power, while all the rest would be employed as tools of the ambition of their unknown superiors."

"Proofs of A Conspiracy" was sent to George Washington. Responding to the sender of the book with a letter, the president said he was aware the Illuminati were in America. He felt that the Illuminati had "diabolical tenets" and that their object was "a separation of the People from their government."
 
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shit if u look on tha dollar bill it says: novus ordo seclorum, which means new world order in sum language. also tha pyramid on tha dollar, if u put a mason sign next to it, it looks damn near alike. tha compass outlines tha pyramid, with tha square bein tha bottom of tha pyramid where it says novus ordo seclorum. tha eye on top of tha pyramid is lit up supposed to signify tha illuminati: tha elite. fold.
 
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^^^shit you're right... Novus Ordo Seclorum means New World Order of the Ages (or New World Order). and yea that eye on top of the pyramid is even refered to as the "Illuminati".

they put the Illuminati and New World Order on the back of the dollar bill along with the U.S. seal... as if showing equal allegiance to both
 
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1/2 On It said:
^^^ yea i read that the New World Order was rooted in same theories and beliefs that Marx got some of his shit from... some dude whose name starts with an "H"... I dont wanna look it up right now.
Nah, I'd say they are very anti-Marxist. That's the problem with a lot of these NWO freaks is they group all revolutions/revolutionaries as one in the same like Lenin having the same ideology as Stalin or Stalin and Marx etc. Communism is supposed to be the people controlling the wealth not a rich shadowy elite.
 
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1/2 On It said:
^^^shit you're right... Novus Ordo Seclorum means New World Order of the Ages (or New World Order). and yea that eye on top of the pyramid is even refered to as the "Illuminati".

they put the Illuminati and New World Order on the back of the dollar bill along with the U.S. seal... as if showing equal allegiance to both
But why would they print somethin so obvious on an item everyone sees on a daily basis?