Complex Mag: 30 Best Rappers In their 30s

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Eminem Show was illmatic level. all bullshit aside. you cant really compare illmatic to any of eminem albums though bc they are totally different styles and came out in different eras. thats like comparing Usher Confessions to MJ thriller you cant do it, different eras. both albums was groundbreaking in their respected eras. or Jordan to lebron cant do it they not from the same cloth or time.
 
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The Eminem Show was a wack album - that's when he started moving away from hip-hop

Thats your opinion. the album must not been too wack bc thats the album that made his shady label really jump and it set up to that 8 mile movie and soundtrack. Encore was his weakest album that shit was trash and everyone i know says the same.
 

ThaG

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Just because an album sold a lot of units does not mean it's good. By that criteria To The Extreme is one of the top 5 best rap albums of all times
 
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Just because an album sold a lot of units does not mean it's good. By that criteria To The Extreme is one of the top 5 best rap albums of all times

man STFU. you have a opinion so does everybody else. he still made more money off that one album then you or your parents will ever make in your whole life. so case closed.
 

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Once again you are equating monetary returns with artistic value. Not only is that not a guaranteed assumption, it's demonstrably false.

And then because you can not present any serious argument in support of your views, you tell people to shut up in frustration
 
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Once again you are equating monetary returns with artistic value. Not only is that not a guaranteed assumption, it's demonstrably false.

And then because you can not present any serious argument in support of your views, you tell people to shut up in frustration

no its bc your opinion is not right over anyone elses. You always come on here acting like your opinions are so superior to others when in reality you some weird square ass soccer player.

go look on the google at the polls majority say MMLP and Eminem show is his best albums to date. majority is what brings in facts. also eminem show is now a official Diamond album selling over ten million copies. so like i said it wasnt too shitty..His only albums to go diamond are marshall mathers lp and eminem show. so you failed.


im not gonna waste my time debating with you and reading your novels.
 

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no its bc your opinion is not right over anyone elses. You always come on here acting like your opinions are so superior to others when in reality you some weird square ass soccer player.

go look on the google at the polls majority say MMLP and Eminem show is his best albums to date. majority is what brings in facts. also eminem show is now a official Diamond album selling over ten million copies. so like i said it wasnt too shitty..His only albums to go diamond are marshall mathers lp and eminem show. so you failed.


im not gonna waste my time debating with you and reading your novels.
How have I failed when I told you several times that how many copies an album has sold has zero relevance to how good it is as it is the 15-year olds (and mostly the female ones) that are the largest album-buying population so in general you need to target them in order to sell a lot of ablums, and these are not exactly the people whose music tastes one would want to base his opinion about music on. By that logic the Backstreet Boys have better albums than Illmatic too.

What the critics who write for the mainstream media have to say about albums is also largely irrelevant - the majority of those have to praise certain albums irrespective of their actual opinion, they are part of the industry after all.

P.S. You don't prove that I am wrong by ad hominem attacks, you do it by reasoned argument - if you tell me what the artistic value of the album in question is, in your opinion, then I will listen and respect your subjective opinion on the subject. But if you just keep parroting "It became a diamond album, therefore it was good", you just reveal yourself as a shallow person who measures everything in life in money
 

Rasan

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eminem has 3 "classic" major albums
slim shady lp
marshall mathers lp
the eminem show

everything after that has been hit or miss imo

if you take into consideration a rapper who is in there 30's and relevant, then yeah he definitley deserves to be number 1, and i'm not even an eminem fan, i'm just keeping it real. the list is hella off base tho lol
 

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eminem has 3 "classic" major albums
slim shady lp
marshall mathers lp
the eminem show

everything after that has been hit or miss imo

if you take into consideration a rapper who is in there 30's and relevant, then yeah he definitley deserves to be number 1, and i'm not even an eminem fan, i'm just keeping it real. the list is hella off base tho lol
As I said above - he is not in his 30s, he's 40
 

GHP

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i dont think i have ever seen a list posted on this board ranking rappers that the siccness didnt think was shitty.