@ chrishogg and everyone(about Carlos)

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FC ENE

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I read your post Chrishogg on the ''best diss'' thread. N E ways like I said I am bouncing around right cuz of work, but I went to Lindsay where my sister stays and I asked her about Carlos and she said that he was in Wasco, but she hesitated when she told me so Im not sure. She showed me a letter he wrote (w/o the envelope) where he wrote to me. He said that he is doing okay but shits real crazy right now, he has been in corcoran and folsom b4 so it must be real heavy in there right now. You know everything that they write in there is checked so they dont say much. Like I said b4 my sister swears up and down that she is over with him and she thinks that if I know where he is at then me and my dad will not let her forget about him. Like I said my familia is four generations deep in this gang shit, IM NOT BRAGING, but this will make it clearer when I say she is trying to break the cycle with her kids. I hope she does, by the way. so to her writing him and us to then she has to respect their relationship. if she ignores him and doesnt let us know shit then she can let him go.

The cool thing though is that she let me know more about him than I knew. Like I said we were both in YA together but we mostly talked about keeping eachothers back. She showed me old pictures of him and shit. If there is anything specific that I can let you or anyone know just ask and if I can answer it I will.
like I said I think he is in Wasco and will do 7 years.
 
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@Deebo, when I first came on here it was cause my sister told me that carlos came on here. Well I checked out everything that he wrote on here and I read that ppl in Reedley didnt know who he was. I know he would not have a problem with me saying this so I will. Maybe to help clear up the confusion, my sister had a picture that he took while his stay in Reedley. The picture is of him and of his homies. on the back it says Whitey, Louie, pachecho, joker and roo written on it. It also has NSR on it. now I believe that it stands for North Side Reedley, but the thing is he had VESR on is chest? and also he talked alot about CLOVERs. so maybe that was an inner clique or something? he has a grip of other pics mostly from like 88 to 91. there are other names I know about. can you clear up the NSR.
 
CHRISHOGGALYPSE

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thanks for letting me know. i told him i would drop him a line sometime cause Lord knows it helps just to get a letter from anyone in a time like that. i was wondering if you knew the address so i could write him something you know? i thought he was supposed to do more like 3 years, but 7???????? that's shitty aye. God bless the homeboy
 
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my sister is really acting shady with letting me know where he stays at. yeah originally he was going to do less time but pending another charge he has with another trial. I know he is in there cause he got into it with some White Power peckerwoods that were trying to either rape or rob my sister. Cause one day her Carlos and my jefe went to some store to pick up shit for a bbq they were gonna have the next day. well my jefe and carlos went in the store, my carnala stayed in the car when some peckerwoods, by the way there are hella WP's (white power) in Visa. My jefe and Carlos came out the store and saw three fools grabbing my sister and slapping her. Straight up nothing needs to be added what my jefe and him did. Well N E ways being that witnesses seen Carlos grab a bat and swing at the three fools he got time and the trial was quick and easy. My jefe didnt get charged, cause they went after carlos being he is pending another charge and he is an active gang member. The judge didnt care that my sister got assulted they cared that two rival gangs, WP and NS were getting into it in the streets they hit the peckerwoods with time to.

The other trial hasnt started I believe so I cant coment on that one, or maybe it has thats why they added the years? I have a homeboy that is in Wasco right now just got sentenced maybe he'll write and it can get cleared up. I am really wanting to get that address myself as soon as I can I will PM it to you chrisshogg and I believe Young Villian too.

Carlos was the most solid homeboy I have ever met. We both maintained our Norte status in YA when everyone thought we were mutts and when mutts were trying to recruit. He saw and sees the reason for concern for bullfrogs. I really want to go visit him and write him but like I said my carnala really wants to start over and end the banging in our family tree.
 
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i hear your sisters point of view tho you know? damn near all of mi cunados homeboys are norte, but he got 3 sons with her, and she don't understand that gang shit at all......so of course she hates it. he's one of the homeboys that kinda laced me with the game when i was growing up. me and him are more like brothers than cunados cause he always looked out for me and was always a down ass homeboy. but honestly, i would like to see him sever any ties with norte, cause i don't want my sister to be a widow with 3 kids and shit. they moved out of watsonville though, so maybe that's a start. i can tell you sister still cares about him just by the shit you say about the situation. hope it works out for the best for them, but if he's facing 7 years, he ain't about to just rank out on norte like she wants him to, even if he wasn't facing 7 years, he sounds like a solid homeboy from the way you talk about him, so i just can't see him leaving norte to be with her. stories like that always end sadly when a homie tries to leave the set or whatever and get his life together. i'll pray for the homie cause it sounds like it could definately get worse for him in the time ahead of him. thanks for the info though aye.
 
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Yeah thats cool ppl are interested in how carlos is doing. but I dont think he would even think about leaving the life cause him and my jefe and myself are deep into it. I think the questioning lies in her, wheter or not to stay with him and she continues to be surrounded by it all. or she leaves us to persue her life w/o norte, TC and all that gang shit. I will back her up in her decision but I know for a fact Carlos aint even thinking about leaving. we all in it till we get taken out. I will try to update this thread when I can.
 
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@FC ENE SO WHAT YOUR REAL NAME HOMIE JUST ASKIN?WELL ENEWAYZ TO CLEAR SHIT UP.NSR MEANS NORTH SIDE REEDLEY LIKE U SAID.WELL BACK THEN ALL SIDES GOT ALONG IN REEDLEY EAST SIDE,AND NORTH SIDE WE STILL DO.BUT TBACK UNTIL LIKE 95 OR 96 THERE WAS A GANG CALLED CLOVER WHICH WAS ALOT OF THE VETERANO HOMIES THAT STARTED THIS CLICK.SOME YOUNGSTERS WANTED TO BE A PART OF IT TOO BUT WE ALL KNEW THIS GANG WAS STRICTLY FOR THE VETERANO HOMIES.I NEVER TRIED BECOMING CLOVER. I JUST STUCK TO BEING EAST SIDE REEDLEY NORTE THATS.BUT TILL RECENTLY ME AND A FEW HOMIES LIKE IN 1998 STARTED RIVER SIDE REEDLEY NORTE.YOU KNOW AND TILL NOW IT STILL BRINGS CONFLICT MAINLY WITH THE EAST SIDERS THEY THINK WERE TRYING TO SHOW THAT WERE BETTER THAN THEM THATS BULL THOUGH.THE NORTHSIDERS IN REEDLEY DONT EXIST NO MORE I LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF REEDLEY AND I KNOW THESE VATOS CLAIMING ON THIS SIDE ARE EAST SIDERS. I STILL REMAINED RIVER SIDE REEDLEY. I BARELY RECENTLY MOVED TO THA NORTH SIDE LIKE 2 YRS AGO.ENEWAYZ THE REASON WE QUESTIONED CARLOS WAS BECAUSE WE HIT UP HELLA HEADS AND NO ONE HAD EVER KNEW OR HEARD OF HIM. SO THAT WAS WEIRD TO US.I FOR ONE KNOW IF HE WAS A REEDLEY HOMIE LIKE HE SAID I WOULDVE KNOWN OF HIM BECAUSE IVE BEEN BANGING REEDLEY NORTE SINCE 1991.AND THE OTHER 2 PEOPLE WHO QUESTIONED HIM WOULD OF KNOWN ABOUT HIM TOO. SO THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON WHY ALL THAT HAPPENED
 
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BIG DEEBO XIV said:
[BLIKE HE SAID I WOULDVE KNOWN OF HIM BECAUSE IVE BEEN BANGING REEDLEY NORTE SINCE 1991.[/B]
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so you have been banging since you were 11? when i was like 10 is when the homies started teaching me alot of shit and by the time i was eleven i thought i pretty much had the idea, but i wasn't banging at that age. that's pretty young ene
 
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SHIT HAPPENS HOMIE.IF U SEEN HOW IT WAS IN REEDLEY BEFORE U EITHER BANGED FROM THE BEGINNING WHEN U WERE YOUNG OR PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER U A WANNA BE AND SHIT.BECAUSE THEY WOULD FEEL U WERE JUST TRYING TO JUMP ON TH BANDWAGON U GET WHAT I MEAN?LIKE BEFORE WHEN U WERE IN ELEMENTARY U WERE A NOBODY.THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN JUNIOR HIGH COMES AROUND AND YOUR A GANGSTER.THAT DIDNT CUT IT BEFORE.BUT BACK IN THOSE DAYS THERE WASNT THAT MUCH DRAMA WITH SCRAPS.IT WAS MORE DRAMA WITH ORANGE COVE WHICH AT THE TIME WERE ENES TOO. WE WOULD GET DOWN IF THEY WOULD CRUISE IN REEDLEY AND IT WOULD VICE VERSA WITH THEM.BUT WE ALL WENT TO THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL SO IMAGINE THAT SHIT.
 
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i know exactly what you are sayin. kids were jumpin into the norte/sur thing in watsonville at a very young age too cause there were kids from poorside watsonville and northside watson at the same school. most of my clothes were red, not to mention red flannels and chucks and shit. plus i had to walk home from school, it was 98 percent eNe territory so it wasn't that big of a deal, but i was tall for my age. alot of those fools that were already in like 8th and 9th grade would front on me cause i was their size. scrapas would confront me if there were a couple of them. alot of my homies at that age where in 8th grade or high school when i was in 5th grade so i grew up fast. i know what you are saying homie, i am just sayin that in watsonville, no 11 year olds were officially part of NSW. fools had little brothers and shit that could kick it or be down, but they wouldn't get jumped in until about 14 years old or so, that's why i said something cause that is pretty damn young you feel me? stay up
 
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Deebo, I'll pm you on my name and shit, but as far as Carlos the reason I was tripping is that the way homeboy carried himself, not on what he said he did but what he did, its a trip that the Reedley homies didnt know him. Like I said I know I met him in YA and the homeboys in there we like 'hey you know more bout this shit we have a fool thats from Fresno county saying he a ene, but he has a Fresno county tatt, hit his ass up and see if you smell a rat we think he really from Fresno and might be a f-14er. see the homies in there really kept an eye out for f-14ers cause shit was poping off in the pens with the older f-14ers and you know the younger fools follow what the older ones are doing so if he was a f-14 then they wanted to know so they could know how to deal with him. now what you got to know is that in there a square has to click up with a group even if you didnt bang. and fools from fresno county that were squares from our county normally automatically assumed they were supposed to program with F-14ers cause they dont know gang shit so they go with ppl from their town not knowing the big picture, cause in YA you got nothing but a bunch of crazy ass fools trying to prove the are the hardest, but we did it in a childish way. well my job was to see if he was just trying to be ene cause he was really one or cause the frogs didnt let him be them. what I know is he was from Reedley and he had VESR on his chest. he went in there for attempted murder, cause he batted a scrap in the skull and he thought he was dead but he survived with brain damage. he did that shit in a town by oxnard while visiting familia. this was in 91 but he said he was from Reedley he bounced around the town with his jefa but the most time was on the north side. you know I lied and said that homies could find out by yearbooks if he was from fresno or reedley. cause he had Fresno County tatted on hm which to me seemed like bullshit why get that on your back, but he said cause Reedley, Fresno county, norteno. at the time in YA, dont know if it still applies Fresno met you had to prove you were not part of F-14 and their bullshit. I went through that shit, cause I guess at the time F-14's started isolating themselves. he said fuck it aint gonna find him in their cause he was on independent studies that he'd prove it another way he ended up satisfying the homies and proved to be one of the solidest homies I ever met. sorry this shit is long but feel it needed explaining, oh and trip out I called mutts F-14ers cause thats what we knew them by in Fresno and thats what they were in lock down, that bulldog shit wasnt really what they were know as then in time they went by bulldog.
 
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oh shit he would always talk about Orange cove or dirt cove. he said VOCR meant Varrio Out of Control Rucas. I really thought at first it was a girl gang, but it was what he called it out of disrespect.
 
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