CHESTER POPS

[EDJ]

ALRIgHT PEOPLES,
I gOT ANOTHA "WHAT IF' QUESTION BROUgHT OUT FROM REAL LIFE. I gOT THIS PATNA THAT JUST FOUND OUT THAT HIS POPS RAPED A LITTLE gIRL LIKE 30 SOMETHIN' YEARS AgO.

IF YOU WERE IN HIS SITUATION, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR POPS? WOULD YOU LOOK DOWN ON HIM? WOULD YOU WONDER IF HE EVA REPENTED OR THINKS THE SAME WAY? WOULD THANgS HE DID IN THE PAST SEEM WEIRD NOW? WOULD YOU DISOWN HIM? WOULD YOU RESPECT HIM? WOULD YOU CONFRONT HIM? IF HE DENIES IT WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT?

REAL ANSWERS PLEASE.

 

[BIG REESE LOC1]

Dam.

I dont know what to tell you cuz. I'm sittin here choppin it with you on the IM and you dropped that name on me. I went to community school with dude. I didnt know he was gettin down like that. You were even closer to him than I was. They say what you do in the dark will come to the light. I guess dude is just gonna have to face that shit, and get what he got comin to his ass.... I wouldnt fuck wit him no more tho, on nothin:beard: Thats up to you tho, cause maybe he has changed, but what he did will forever be on your mind especially if you go ahead with your plans we was speakin on

 

[Blight]

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR FATHER UP UNTIL YOU FIND OUT?

Then if everythings tight, why let it come between you.

For your whole life (assuming your under 30 and your not the son of the raped woman) you have had good relations with pops. Definately you would be wrong to hold anything against him.

If you have had a shaky relationship with pops, you may just use it as an excuse to make him feel bad or to project more anger towards him.


I THINK IT IS WRONG TO DISRESPECT POPS
I THINK IT IS WRONG TO HOLD THE ACT AGAINST HIM

 

[Blight]

I was raised by my mom too. My dad got real sick and spent over 3 years in a hospital. I was takin care of MY DAD before that and even if HE TOLD ME SOME BAD SHIT about anything, why would i want to just walk away.

Being a son is AUTOMATIC
Being a GOOD SON isnt automatic, it takes the ability to realize human nature and the way people act according to the "nature" they represent.
EXAMPLE:
A father was pretty much already the type of man he will always be by the time he has you as a son. He will always be a lier, a cheater, a religious nut, an honest man, a loner, etc... and the way he raises you is based totally on his morals which come along with his human nature. It is hard to change, and you dont need to change him.

He will advise you to avoid certain things he had bad experiences with (such as raping women) and if you up-root his lifetime guides to find he was guilty of what he is telling you to avoid, you should be grateful, not hateful.
People who CARE would make attempts to keep you from their perils.

 

[Blight]

I would forgive and try to forget. If it pops into my head everytime i see him, ill ignore it and its all good. ONLY IF he has changed/learned something from his mistake weather he was punished or not. And you got to talk about it with the man, so its harder than just walking away. Plus when you talk about it, you may let anger go thru debate and maybe you may change yourself in the process to become more forgiving towards people you are close with thru conversation.

I just may think twice about asking him to be a babysitter tho. Rape is an addiction for some folks. You just get the right stimuli and its on.

As far as going to Steeler games, the mall, celebrating birthdays, inviting him over, its all good. Shit, if he was cool with you for 30 years already, why would he change now, specially when you just learned a deep secret hes prolly ashamed for, and now thinks your gonna automatically put him below you for finding out(if you follow that).

 

[EDJ]

SHEA,
I APOLOgIZE FOR OPENIN' WOUNDS HOMEBOY. BUT AS YOU KNOW THIS SHIT IS REALA THAN REAL. IF I WAS YOU I'D JUST WOULDN'T FUK WITH CUZZ AND IF HE SAID WHAT'S UP I WOULD gREET HIM, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.

BLIgHT,
SO IF YOU FOUND OUT YOUR POPS DID THAT SHIT(FROM ANOTHA SOURCE, NOT HIM) WOULDN'T YOU WONDER WHY HE NEVA CAME CLEAN WITH HIS WRONg? HOW DO YOU KNOW HE HAS REALLY CHANgED? IF YOU WERE TO HAVE DAUgHTERS, WOULD YOU LET gRANDPA HOLD THEM? CARRESS THEM? KISS THEM? WOULD YOU EVEN LET HIM gET CLOSE TO THEM? WOULD YOU LEAVE THEM IN A ROOM WITH HIM BY THEMSELVES? WOULDN'T THIS SHIT BE IN BAK OF YOUR MIND?

 

[Blight]

You just got to find out if hes changed by conversation. Its all up to you if you think hes telling the truth or not.

As for letting him hold and kiss (cause hes not gonna french kiss a baby) my daughter, hell yeah. As far as letting him take her out... i dont know. Thats whay i said in the last one: "I just may think twice about asking him to be a babysitter tho. Rape is an addiction for some folks. You just get the right stimuli and its on."
Cause it would be in the back of my mind. I figure i can trust my kids enough to be smart with someone whos a familly member whos a bit of a risk.

 

[EDJ]

BLIgHT,
SO WHAT IF HE DENIES IT AND gETS INSULTED?

 

[MOESES SOULRIGHT THE 2nd]

if i thought of those two girls like sisters...

then dude wouldn't be walkin...

if one of my potnas did that to my lil sisters(not blood)...even if they was like my brother...

i'd have a hard time not knee cappin em

but you're a wise person shea...so i got faith however you handle it will be the right way

 

[Deep Thought]

EDJ - Dang man, that would be sick. I'm 29 so that would place my dad rapin some woman only a year before I was born (my mom and he would have still been together too). I would have to question everything he ever said or done. He's been a born again Christian for nearly 20 years now though. I would have to step out on faith depending on how our conversation went.

SHEA - Rape is a subject close to my heart. I'd be really torn. On one hand I'd wanna put the hurt on this cat, on the other, I was told in confidence of the whole situation. Ultimately I'd have to cut dude off and hopefully never wind up in the position where I'd have to explain "why" to him.

 

[EDJ]

SHEA,
HOPE YOU DEAL WITH IT RIgHT PLAYA.

DEEP THOUgHT,
WHAT IF YOUR POPS IS SO ASHAMED AND DON'T WANNA COME OUT THE WOODS WITH IT AND LIES TO YOU?

 

[Ender]

Only you know who your true friends are. And if this person is one of the ones you know that of. Then my advice is forgive him. You sound like a healer to me. Someone who tries to make things right and still believes in what's right. That's the path you have chosen.

You say he told you he's changed his life and believes in God. Tell him to remember this parable that Jesus spoke of: "If thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, for it is better to enter Heaven without that arm then have thy whole body cast into the hell fire..."

It means don't put yourself in a position to commit sin if you know your not strong enough to overcome that urge to sin.

I love to smoke cigarettes. Even tho I know that shit be bad as hell for me. But if people didn't make them I couldn't smoke even if I wanted to. Shit if people didn't make them I wouldn't know what wanting to smoke is. Unfortunately the world I live in now has cigarettes. I was tempted to smoke even tho I knew of all the bad shit it did. Now I'm addicted. If I ever want to stop smoking I have to quit buyin cigarettes. I have to "cut that arm off". But if I ever want to stop the world from smoking. I can't go around telling everybody not to smoke, tho that will help my strong friends it won't help my weak ones. In order to protect the weak I have to burn down the factories that make cigarettes and get rid of the people who would rebuild those factories.

^That story's for the healer.

 

[Blight]

He cant deny it. Only if he didnt really do it.

 

[The Duke of Earl]

i thought this was a cheeto thread

 

[Deep Thought]

DEEP THOUgHT,
WHAT IF YOUR POPS IS SO ASHAMED AND DON'T WANNA COME OUT THE WOODS WITH IT AND LIES TO YOU?

Then I'd have to tell him what I "know" and how I feel about it. But I don't see my pops doin that. He's confessed some pretty horrible shit to me over the years. He used to be a hardcore drug addict.

 

[EDJ]

DEEP THOUgHT,
SO YOU SAYIN' THAT YOUR POPS "WOULD" COME OUT WITH IT? I SAY IT'S WAY EASIER TO ADMIT A DRUg HABIT THAN CONFESS ABOUT TAKIN' SOME YOUNg SNATCH AWAY AgES AgO, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SHIT IS SUPPOSED TO BE OLD AND "THE PAST".

 

[Deep Thought]

Nah, I'm not talkin about confessing to BEING a drug addict, that's a gimme. I'm talkin stuff he did over and for drugs mayne.

And yeah, old or not, he'd fess up. That's just the kind of man he is.

 

[EDJ]

DAMN,
THE THANgS MUTHA-FUKAS DO FOR DRUgS. I KNOW THAT SHIT IS HARD TO SWALLOW.

 

[EDJ]

UP.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Everytime I've exacted violence on people for "revenge" purposes, shit never leaves you fulfilled. It's like you back at square one again, but it's not like you wanna do the shit twice.

I don't know. In my experience these type of situations are just all around fucked up and there really is no right answer.

Sometimes you will flash on people who have pushed you and disrespected those around you and sometimes you wont. It always seems to me, though, that no matter how appropriate violence seems, it doesn't always make shit better.

I think the urge to whoop anyone and everyone's ass for everything is some youngster shit. I know for a fact when I was younger I would try and get down like that every time I could, simply because you not only hold it in high regard, you also believe it is some sort of just answer to everything or some sort of universal solution.

I have far too much to risk now to ever get locked up or in trouble with the boegs for anything. This would be the farthest from my mind in all but the worst situation. In my opinion guilt, shame, and bein outed is a mothafucka, far worse than gettin stomped on.