Chavez's Party Wins Over 2/3rds Of Venezuela's Parliament

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With nearly 80% of votes counted Chavez's party MVR looks to win 114 seats in the 167 seat parliament with other parties in the coalition taking the remaining seats giving the ruling coalition a total lock on the parliament.

Hundreds of election monitors from the European Union and the Organization of American States have declared the vote legitimate.


Watch for more foreign intervention and a way to spin this in the style of the boycotted Nicaraguan and Hatian elections.
 
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Venezuelan oil pipeline blown up



http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/12/04/venezuela.pipeline.ap/

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- An explosion that ripped through an oil pipeline connected to Venezuela's largest oil refinery was caused by government foes attempting to disrupt congressional elections, officials said Sunday.

Interior Minister Jesse Chacon said C-4 explosives were used to blow up the pipeline Saturday night and that officials believed the act was aimed at trying to destabilize the country.

"We already know who is behind this situation, and we have made some arrests," Chacon said, without giving details.

Nobody was hurt by the explosion Saturday night in a remote region of western Venezuela, and firefighters quickly extinguished a fierce blaze caused by the blast.

Oil Minister Rafael Ramirez blamed the same opponents who unsuccessfully tried to oust President Hugo Chavez in a two-month strike that ended in early 2003.

"The same people behind the oil sabotage ... are trying to wreak havoc in our country," Ramirez told the government-run Bolivarian News Agency. "We defeated them that time, and we will defeat them now."

The state oil company said the pipeline, which includes two pipes, carries 400,000 barrels of crude a day to the giant Amuay refinery. Firefighters said only one of the two pipes was broken open. Residents in the area heard two blasts, firefighters said.

The refinery has enough inventories to cover supply needs while the pipeline undergoes repairs, which should take at least five days, Ramirez said.

Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel called the pipeline blast a "criminal, unacceptable act." He indicated former oil workers could have been involved.

The military said it was stepping up security at key oil installations to prevent any other acts of sabotage in the country, the world's fifth largest oil exporter.

Ramirez said the state oil firm Petroleos de Venezuela S.A., or PDVSA, had been the "target" of a campaign to try to destabilize the country. He showed reporters images of flames leaping from the pipeline after the blast.

Chacon said the act didn't get in the way of the vote. "Venezuelans said 'no' to violence today," he said.

Government officials said 11 people suspected of plotting to use violence to interrupt balloting were arrested in Zulia state while a large cache of weapons, including C-4 explosives and grenades, was seized in central Guarico state.

Officials in Caracas also reported blasts from small explosives that reportedly injured three people on Friday.




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Major Venezuelan oil pipeline sabotaged
http://english.eluniversal.com/2005/12/05/en_pol_art_05A640559.shtml

Rafael Ramírez, Minister of Energy and Petroleum and president of state oil holding Petróleos de Venezuela (Pdvsa), Sunday claimed that repairs in pipeline Ulé-Amuay -seriously hit by two explosions late on December 3rd- "would not take more than five days."

A first explosion took place last Saturday at 8:45 p.m. at the 17th kilometer of Ulé-Amuay pipeline, in northwestern Zulia state.

"An explosion in this pipe provoked a serious fire," Ramírez stressed late Sunday during a news conference.

He added that sabotage was attempted at two other points in a gas pipeline parallel to Ulé-Amuay oil pipeline. An explosion was recorded at the gas pipeline 27th kilometer, but no major damages were reported, Ramírez underscored. At the 25th kilometer an explosive device was found and removed before explosion.

These events left two pipelines damaged.

According to Ramírez, a 26" pipeline would resume operations on Monday, while repairs in a 24" pipeline would take some five days.

The official said that the two systems convey a total volume of 400,000 b/d to the Paraguaná refining complex.

He ensured that the situation is under control and that oil supply in Venezuelan and abroad would not be disrupted by the blast, as Paraguaná refinery has 2.84 million barrel stock to meet obligations in the next few days.

Ramírez added that there are signs that the attacks were aimed at the congressional elections held last Sunday.
 
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US State Department spokesperson Adam Ereli said the "very high" abstention rate reflected "a broad lack of confidence in the impartiality and transparency of the electoral process."

"And we would certainly look to Venezuela to address the issues of transparency and impartiality for the benefit of Venezuelan democracy," he said.


*note
the average abstention rate in US congressional elections ranges between 60% and 70%, when carried out separately from presidential elections
 
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American Infidels Cause Venezuela Vote Boycott

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051130/wl_afp/venezuelapoliticsvote_051130063323

No need to "spin it" as a boycott when one was already declared 5 days beforehand, by not just one...not three...but FIVE separate parties. Chavez' response? "Los gringos--ELLOS lo hacen! Es la culpa suya! Te lo juro!" -- Sure, buddy.



Oh yeah, Abstention rates. Let's have a look.


Voter Turnout, Parlimentary Elections:

US -- 63.8%
Venezuela -- 56.6%

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dem_par_ele_reg_vot_tur


Overall Turnout (Votes / Voting Age Population):

US -- 46.6%
Venezuela -- 46.5%

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dem_par_ele_tur


Don't know what "the average abstention rate in US congressional elections ranges between 60% and 70%, when carried out separately from presidential elections" was supposed to mean, but in either event, its wrong, by 10% or more, up to almost 25%.


Can't wait til Ven's full numbers come in, and we can compare their Votes vs Voting Age Population.
 
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Fuck, I almost forgot the pictures. I mean, no Anti- thread is any good without the pictures.










I mean, i can't find any cool violent shit like setting buildings on fire or physically attacking police officers, but these will have to do. I guess these people just don't get as riled up about Government Corruption as they do a Bush visit.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
No need to "spin it" as a boycott when one was already declared 5 days beforehand
I never said there wasn’t a boycott, actually the opposite.

I said spin them the way the boycott’s of Nicaragua and Haiti were spun, not spin them into something other than boycott.

The spin includes attributing low voter turn out to ONLY the boycott and not to other factors that include:
1. it's a midterm non-presidential election turn out is always lower
2. poor weather tends to keep people at home
3. terrorism tends to keep people at home too (i.e. the pipeline attack as intimidation)
4. traditionally low turn out for venezuelan elections (including pre-chavez era)


Dirty Shoez said:
FIVE separate parties.
only about 10% of the total candidates up for election had formalized their withdrawal

The National Electoral Council said 556 out of 5,500 candidates had pulled out of the congressional vote.

Dirty Shoez said:
Oh yeah, Abstention rates. Let's have a look.

http://elections.gmu.edu/Voter_Turnout_1998.htm
1998 United States Voting Age and Voting Eligible Turnout

“VAP Turnout Rate = 35.3” Abstention = 64.7%

“VEP Turnout Rate = 38.2” Abstention = 61.8%



http://elections.gmu.edu/Voter_Turnout_2002.htm
2002 United States Voting-Age and Voting-Eligible Turnout

“VAP Turnout Rate = 36.29” Abstention = 63.71%

“VEP Turnout Rate = 39.51” Abstention = 60.49%


“In 2002, turnout was 39 percent in the November election and a mere 18 percent in the congressional primaries.”
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...4.html+turnout+election+"united+states"&hl=en

http://www.fairelection.us/documents/Prepart21.pdf
“Percent casting votes for—
U.S. Representatives
1998 = 32.8%” Abstention = 67.2%


Steve Schifferes BBC News Online Wednesday, 6 November, 2002
“2002 mid-term Congressional elections, with its record low turnout of around 30%”

RICHARD B. FREEMAN is a professor of economics at Harvard University, the program director for labor studies at the National Bureau of Economic Research, and senior research fellow at the Centre for Economic Performance, London School of Economics.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Election_Reform/Turnout_Burnout.html
“In nonpresidential-election years, voter turnout has barely exceeded one-third of voting-age adults.”


Dirty Shoez said:
Oh yeah, Abstention rates. Let's have a look.

The last time parliamentary elections were held separately from presidential elections in Venezuela was in 1998. The party Acción Democrática (AD) won that vote, with the support of merely 11.24% of the total population registered to vote. This gives the MVR greater legitimacy to control the National Assembly than AD had in 1998.

About 3.67 million Venezuelans cast ballots on Sunday.
Venezuela has 14 million registered voters.
26% > 11.24% (the AD's last parliamentary victory)


Yahoo said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2005113...citing mistrust of electronic voting machines
compared to other voting machines, Venezuela’s are probably among the most secure in the world. Not only do they print paper ballots, unlike most voting machines in the U.S., but observers are allowed to inspect the software’s source code, they have tamper-proof software signatures, removable memory in case a machine is damaged, and passwords that are shared by different parties involved in the electoral process.

OAS observers, the Carter Center, and other international observers have signed-off on the voting machines’ reliability more than once.

virtually all political observers predicted that Chavez's party would win easily, even without the boycott. so the opposition pulled out to prevent a huge landslide against them. it had nothing to do with voting machines.
 
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Chaves is trying to start a South American revolution, but a lot of South and Central American countries are looking right thru their lies. Example: Mexico withdrew their embassador out of Venezuela.
 
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ColdBlooded said:
"And we would certainly look to Venezuela to address the issues of transparency and impartiality for the benefit of Venezuelan democracy," he said.

Jose Silva, head of the European Union team, said the vote was clean and praised the elections council.

"For us, there was transparency in the electoral process," said Silva, who oversaw about 160 observers.

In agreement with Organization of American States observers, the head of the EU observation mission, Jose Albino Silva, recalled that the withdrawal took place after the opposition´s demands were met.

The EU reiterated that the elections had been carried out with absolute transparency, high machine reliability, and very few irregularities.
 
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young myzt said:
Chaves is trying to start a South American revolution, but a lot of South and Central American countries are looking right thru their lies. Example: Mexico withdrew their embassador out of Venezuela.
LMAO, Wow! The former Coca-Cola executive withdrew the ambassador from Venezuela! That MUST say a lot for the South American people!
 
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young myzt said:
Chaves is trying to start a South American revolution, but a lot of South and Central American countries are looking right thru their lies. Example: Mexico withdrew their embassador out of Venezuela.

yea a government that is killin pesants in chiapas
 
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^^ When was the last time you went to Chiapas, sir?

If anything it is the other way around. Chiapas is fucked up BECAUSE OF the Zapatistas. There are all kinds of abuses going on down there, and i've heard that straight from the horse's mouth, people who have BEEN THERE, and RECENTLY.