Charles Hamilton’s Greatest Fails: A Retrospective

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Around this time last year Charles Hamilton was a relatively unknown Harlem MC that became one of the most talked about upcoming hip-hop acts in a matter of weeks. Blogs were showing love and early mixtapes signaled promise. Hell, the first time we saw this guy spit was in a cipher with Kanye West and The Game. Not a bad first impression. But what a difference a year makes.

It’s not like we think the Sonic-obsessed rapper’s music has gotten wack (it’s still pretty consistently dope), but even his diehard fans would be hard-pressed to overlook this guy’s bizarre career missteps over the past 12 months. The latest Charles Hamilton controversy surrounds his decision to list the late James Yancey, better known as J. Dilla, as the executive producer of his debut album, This Perfect Life. The explanation? What he describes as a “paranormal relationship” with Dilla. Huh?

We give the kid some credit for keeping his name in the news in an era where fans are more fickle than ever, but unfortunately it’s become less about his music, and more about his public failures. Some of these are just normal growing pains of a new artist, but a lot of them could’ve been avoided if Charles would just take a take deep breath and log off every once in awhile. With that said, here’s a full breakdown of Charles Hamilton’s greatest fails as rated by our Rick Ross Fail Scale. Sorry Sonic…

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3DsY6JTNEUnbq6f2

SOULJA BOY TOLD ‘EM
WHEN: December 2008
• Charles Hamilton blamed Soulja Boy for hipster-rap’s lack of mainstream acceptance in an interview and obviously forgot to check the kid’s online-beef track record. Soulja Boy fired back with one of his infamous video responses and laid into Charles for over seven minutes. Ether moment: “X out the Sonic. You might wanna fuck with Mario. You might wanna eat a mushroom. Wooka wooka wooka.” Then after conspiracy theories about the authenticity of the beef developed (both are Interscope artists), most blogs, including Nah Right, never even posted Charles’ Auto-Tuned response. Fail.

Rick Ross Fail Scale:

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CAN’T TAKE YOU SERIUS
WHEN: January 2009
• Charles Hamilton handled old heads Rhymefest and Uncle Luke just fine, but he finally met his match when veteran battle rapper Serius Jones stepped up. “Your clothes look like the inside of a pussy.” Ouch. It was a good battle though, and while hip-hop may have won, Charles Hamilton definitely lost. In all fairness: we know your pea coat didn’t cost $2,000, Serius.

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JACKIN’ FOR BEATS
WHEN: March 2009
• Underground producer Black Spade cried foul after noticing Charles Hamilton’s self-produced song “Shinin’” bears a striking resemblance to one of his beats (compare the tracks here). Of course, Charles denied the accusation and even posted his Pro Tools session file online in an attempt to clear his name. Unfortunately for him, the file turned out to be self-incriminating and pretty much confirmed—as evidenced above—that he did jack Black Spade’s beat. Um, fail.

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SONIC DOESN’T LOVE COLLEGE
WHEN: March 2009
• Oh, how nice of Charles Hamilton to freestyle with college kids after a concert. It just sucks when your fans can outshine you. Sure, Charles didn’t appear to be battling as hard as the fan was, but you should never half-ass it when cameras are rolling. The guy with the deal and the Interscope machine behind him should never let anyone think that he lost a battle to this kid. Not even for a second.

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CHARLES HAMILTON IS A DIRTY KID
WHEN: April 2009
• On meeting Pharrell in an interview with Nylon Guys: “[We met at] the Four Seasons, right?” says Hamilton. “I had just taken a shower that day for the first time in a couple of days.” Need we say more?

Rick Ross Fail Scale:

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WALE AND CHARLES FIGURE OUT WHAT’S BEEF
WHEN: April 2009
• Charles Hamilton and Wale have had a rocky relationship since people began grouping them together in the same “freshman class” collective. Charles denied firing shots early on, but by spring, a real feud developed. The labelmates tried to cover their tracks and called the beef “fake” on Twitter, but that didn’t last long. Wale’s hilarious jab from the clip above combined with his comments in our recent interview might not have signaled a full-on assault, but they were pretty funny. Chalk it up to a W for the D.C. guy.

Rick Ross Fail Scale:

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CORY GUNZ GOES OFF
WHEN: April 2009
• Cory Gunz and his Square Off cronies dissed Charles Hamilton on PMS Radio (no, really) because apparently, Sonic had been talking greasy. But that guy’s career is a mess too, so no L for Charles here.

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THE PUNCH HEARD ‘ROUND THE BLOGOSPHERE
WHEN: May 2009
• We give Charles Hamilton credit for not going the Chris Brown route and retaliating, but that doesn’t exempt him from scrutiny. Think about the last time you got punched in the face by a girl. Anything cool about that? Didn’t think so. Unfortunately for Charles, Briana Latrise’s right hook became entertainment for millions and spawned even more jokes. The Pink Panther doll attached to his arm significantly increased the fail factor too. Sonic definitely lost his rings with this one. And those corny couples therapy sessions after the fact? Not a good look.

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CHARLES HAMILTON IMAGINES WORKING WITH DILLA
WHEN: June 2009
• Earlier this week, Charles Hamilton posted cover art for his debut album, This Perfect Life, on his blog. Aside from the failure that is being signed to a major and having your glorified mixtape “debut” released for free online, Charles caused an uproar by crediting the deceased legend, J. Dilla, as the executive producer of the album. Charles said that proceeds (from a free album?) will go to the J. Dilla Foundation, which apparently doesn’t exist. Ma Dukes doesn’t even know who the kid is. Now he’s saying that he worked with Dilla through a “strictly paranormal relationship.” FOH.

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RIHANNA OBSESSION GOES NOWHERE
WHEN: 2008 - Present
• We all love Rihanna in one way or another, but when you blog about her regularly and fabricate an imaginary relationship with her (“Cuz word on the street is I only hear boo when Rihanna’s referring to me.”) while another young rapper is rumored to be getting it in with her, you lose. That loser in this situation would be Charles Hamilton. May the fail be with you.

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http://www.complex.com/blogs/2009/06/10/charles-hamiltons-greatest-fails-a-retrospective/


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The J.Dilla thing is nothing new.... KRS-One has been crediting Scott La Rock for years...

Wikipedia said:
Though Scott La Rock's death was a tragic blow, KRS-One decided to continue Boogie Down Productions, crediting subsequent releases as being "Overseen by Scott La Rock".
looks like who ever this dude is... is trying to cash in on name recognition.:ermm:
 

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never heard his music. his jaw getting tapped by old girl makes me not want to listen to him, either.
 
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IMO the author that took the time to summarize every single failure and put it in chronological order in an article is just as big as a failure.
 

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AllHipHop.com: Had you ever heard Charles Hamilton’s name as a rising artist?


Ma Dukes: Not ever in my life! The only Hamilton I’ve ever heard of was on the bill (laughs). When I first heard about this I was really jogging my brain because I know I meet a lot of people but usually I lock in a name pretty good and whenever somebody meets me and they do any type of work for his [Dilla’s] production or different types of merchandising I always lock them in. I’m very free to give my number because I’ll talk to anybody and I always answer and if I can’t get you – you know if I’m having a bad medical week or something I’ll always get back to you or text to let you know that as soon as things get right ill get back. And I do this because that’s what I’m here for. It doesn’t bother me, I freely give my information out and talk to anybody in any realm that they’re involved in.


So that person [Charles Hamilton] would’ve been able to call me straight forward if they knew me, without a doubt. So that was the first thing I’m like, “Wow! How come he didn’t call Ma Dukes?” because then he said he knew Illa J and it was not an hour later that Illa J called me to ask me who he was. I was like, “I don’t know who he is (laughs)” and he was like, “Well I’ve never met him,” and things like that. I was getting calls all over the place, Pete Rock called me like early yesterday and asked me, “Ma whats going on this guy is putting your business in the streets, who is he?” I was like, “Well I haven’t a clue!” I don’t know why he would do it, there’s a lot of things that have been done but he’s the first, I’ve got to give him kudos (laughs) he’s the first to step up and do that out the box so you know I still don’t know what to think.


AllHipHop.com: Charles made the statement, “quite honestly my relationship with the Yanceys and the Holten family and their relationship with the Moore family and the Hamilton family really is nobody’s business number one.” Do the Holten or Moore family ring a bell?


Ma Dukes: Don’t know. Wait, you know what I know Dilla knew a Charles Moore when he went to high school, but that was it (laughs). He was a nice person, no pun intended, (laughs) and he’s a vocalist not a producer and matter of fact he did a track on Daddy’s Little Girl, he did the Sam Cooke song. But he’s not really doing anything as far as I know and I’m not sure if he’s still in Michigan or New York or somewhere. But don’t know any Holten’s, don’t know them. So yeah, I’m at a loss. You know I couldn’t forget a whole family, maybe one individual but not a whole family, my god (laughs).


AllHipHop.com: Let me throw another quote at you from Charles, “Now if I did a séance and Dilla’s walking around in my house –"


Ma Dukes: Oh my goodness!


AllHipHop.com: "...you can’t take away that paranormal aspect of it and I’m not gonna say whether I did that or not because then I ‘d be crazy."


Ma Dukes: He is crazy. Quote me! Totally insane, oh my god he’s insane. I feel for him if he believes things like this. You know we all have our experiences (out of body or in our dreams) and we believe them because of how vividly it might have happened but to conjure up a whole scenario with relatives and friends, (laughs) that’s a really big one. He had to of been asleep for a few days to get that together. And as far as Dilla walking around in the house, the only house that he walks around in would be mine cause it’s like a museum so I can really think that he’s here and you smell the nag champa burning because he burned that every day, everything in his house smelled like that (laughs). So yes, he’s very much alive here because we keep it that way and we rejoice in his music and listen to it. You know, it’s not uncomfortable for anybody in the house to have it playing because he was just a swell son and brother, he was just a great person and a good Dad might I add. He’s alive here but I don’t know about anywhere else (laughs) and if he did it’d probably be to go see his kids first before anywhere else (laughs). When House Shoes told me that my mouth dropped, I was like, “Wow!” And I didn’t have anything to say, and when I have a loss for words there’s really something up because usually I can go forever (laughs). He is some character, if he is creative in his music he ought to be able to do something good without stepping on other people’s toes. If he’s even half as creative in his process of doing his music then he’s got a good product and other than that he should be writing stories. Yes, he should be doing books, he really should.


AllHipHop.com: What did you think about the physical threats directed to Charles Hamilton?


Ma Dukes: Oh my God! I felt that way so what can I say? I was like, “If I can get my hands around his neck!” Like I said though, don’t bring the ghetto out (of me). I don’t like that part, but you know I was born and raised in Detroit, lower east side and in the ghetto so it’s not prim and proper. And hey, I got friends on every walk of life so nothing would faze me but I wouldn’t want to go into that kind of thought process cause when people do things like that it kind of takes you out of your norm and you kind of think about, “Well, you know what should I really do?” That’s not very good, the position he put himself in. It was like a thoughtless process. You’re just going to go step out into a black hole, and that’s literally what he did from what I saw of the responses. It was like everybody was looking at their computer at that time.


I hope he will recover from it, he better watch it (laughs). I got like dozens and dozens of calls and they were all for the same thing the last couple of days. “Who is this guy? What in the hell is going on?” And when I told them I didn’t know him they got even madder and so it was going back and forth with the same people who were going to Twitter and just blowing him out of the water. That’s not a good thing, if he ever wants to make it he’s got to come out of this mess first (laughs). House Shoes is like a police watch and he [Charles] should’ve known that just about anything that goes up someone is watching all the time. I don’t think I would’ve done that on my dumbest day (laughs) and stepped out there like that not knowing what to fall back on. I mean at least you should be able to know what you’re talking about, know who you’re talking about, before you same something. He came hardnosed like he knew what he was talking about.
http://allhiphop.com/stories/features/archive/2009/06/12/21663040.aspx


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