Can Public Schools Produce Good Citizens?

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what the hell kinda question is that? I went to public school my whole life and now im at Cal Poly for college, plannin on doin grad school too. Certain public schools are garbage but not all
 
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<~~ yes

Im sure only about 5&#37; (if that) posters on the Siccness went to private schools.

You can take anything you want from any school, public or private, it's all in the attitude that you have about it. Which isn't derived from any school, outlook on life comes from home.
 
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<~~ yes

Im sure only about 5% (if that) posters on the Siccness went to private schools.

You can take anything you want from any school, public or private, it's all in the attitude that you have about it. Which isn't derived from any school, outlook on life comes from home.
A persons outlook on "life" comes from a variety of places... Parents, peers, schools, experiences... And in some cases the church, temple, mosque, etc...
 
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My personal perception from interacting with kids from both public and private schools in the classroom is that generally speaking kids from private schools have a much better education than kids from public schools. Actually I have even noticed a differnce in public schools between inner city schools and suburb schools.

I was shocked at some of the gaps in education in kids from public schools that I interacted with during college. I remember reading a few papers in particular in which the writters didn't understand the concept of using commas, let alone sentence or paragraph structure.

Things like that have not much to do with intelligence and a whole lot to do with education.



I have no idea what you mean by good "citizens" though...
 
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i was very lucky growing up. I didnt live in danville but i used my aunts address and i was able to go to San Ramon Valley High which is in a upper middle class neighborhood so they had more funding for teachers and books and shit. If i had had to go to the high school i was supposed to go to then i probably wouldnt have received the same quality of education.

There is definitly different quality of public schools. Like San Francisco is notorious for having HORRIBLE public schools, even in the more wealthy neighborhoods. If you live in SF and you want to have a good education then you need to go to a private school. But not all public schools are garbage.
 

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I was shocked at some of the gaps in education in kids from public schools that I interacted with during college. I remember reading a few papers in particular in which the writters didn't understand the concept of using commas, let alone sentence or paragraph structure.

Things like that have not much to do with intelligence and a whole lot to do with education.
Things like that in general are not learned in school

I don't remember a single thing I was thought in school about grammar, punctuation etc. that I didn't already intuitively know from reading books.

The ability to express yourself is the result of reading a lot and learning from the masters of it when you're very young. School can help make some concepts more clear and further develop your skills but it can't give them to you in the first place. In other words, you should not blame the school for that, you should blame the homes where there is not a single book for a child to read...
 

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Yes

We were taught I lot of theory about the structure of the sentence, what part of it is called what, what the different types of sentences are, how you connect them, how you structure your text and a lot more blah-blah, and I remember most of that even today, but that's because I have good memory, not because these are the things you absolutely need to know to write well. Most of the great writers didn't know these things (because they lived in an era when they were yet to be formalized). And I was able to write well before the time I had to study these things
 
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Things like that in general are not learned in school

I don't remember a single thing I was thought in school about grammar, punctuation etc. that I didn't already intuitively know from reading books.

The ability to express yourself is the result of reading a lot and learning from the masters of it when you're very young. School can help make some concepts more clear and further develop your skills but it can't give them to you in the first place. In other words, you should not blame the school for that, you should blame the homes where there is not a single book for a child to read...


And I suppose you were able to able to intuitively know things such as KE = 1/2mv^2 by observing the physical world around you :confused:
 

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And I suppose you were able to able to intuitively know things such as KE = 1/2mv^2 by observing the physical world around you :confused:
We were talking about writing, not math and physics

Not that those are thing you can't learn on your own if you have the motivation