Bush's 3 Bogus Reasons For War On Iraq

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Bush's 3 Bogus Reasons For War On Iraq
Michael T. Klare, AlterNet
January 30, 2003
Viewed on January 30, 2003
source: http://www.alternet.org/print.html?StoryID=15069

In his State of the Union Address and other speeches, President Bush has attempted to articulate the reasons for going to war with Iraq and ousting Saddam Hussein. Stripped of rhetoric, these can be boiled down to three main objectives: (1) to eliminate Saddam's weapons of mass destruction (WMD); (2) to diminish the threat of international terrorism; and (3) to promote democracy in Iraq and surrounding areas.


To determine if these powerful motives are actually behind the rush to war, each must be examined in turn.


(1) Eliminating WMD: The reason most often given by President Bush for going to war with Iraq is to reduce the risk of a WMD attack on the United States. Such an attack would be devastating, and vigorous action is appropriate to prevent it.


If the threat of WMD attack is, in fact, Bush's primary concern, then he would surely pay the greatest attention to the greatest threat of WMD usage against the United States, and deploy available U.S. resources -- troops, dollars and diplomacy -- accordingly. But this is not what the president is doing.


North Korea and Pakistan pose greater WMD threats to the United States than Iraq for several reasons. Each possesses a much bigger WMD arsenal. Pakistan has several dozen nuclear warheads along with missiles and planes capable of delivering them hundreds of miles away; it is also suspected of having chemical weapons. North Korea is thought to possess sufficient plutonium to produce one to two nuclear devices along with the capacity to manufacture several more; it also has a large chemical weapons stockpile and a formidable array of ballistic missiles.


Iraq, by contrast, possesses no nuclear weapons today and is thought to be several years away from producing any, even under the best of circumstances.


A policy aimed at protecting the United States from WMD attacks would identify Pakistan and North Korea as the leading perils, and put Iraq in a rather distant third place.


(2) Combating terrorism: The administration has argued at great length that a U.S. invasion and "regime change" in Iraq would mark the greatest success in the war against terrorism so far. Why this is so has never been made entirely clear. It is said that Saddam's hostility toward the United States somehow sustains and invigorates the terrorist threat to America. Saddam's elimination would thus greatly weaken international terrorism and its capacity to attack the United States.


There simply is no evidence that this is the case. If anything, the opposite is true. From what we know of al Qaeda and other such organizations, the objective of Islamic extremists is to overthrow any government in the Islamic world that does not adhere to a fundamentalist version of Islam. The Baathist regime in Iraq does not qualify; thus, under al Qaeda doctrine, it must be swept away, along with the equally deficient governments in Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.


It follows that a U.S. effort to oust Saddam Hussein and replace his regime with another secular government -- this one kept in place by American military power -- will not diminish the wrath of Islamic extremists, but rather fuel it.


(3) The promotion of democracy: The ouster of Saddam Hussein, the administration claims, will allow the Iraqi people to establish a truly democratic government and serve as a beacon and inspiration for the spread of democracy throughout the Islamic world.


But there is little reason to believe that the administration is motivated by a desire to spread democracy in its rush to war with Iraq.


First of all, many of the top leaders of the current administration, particularly Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, happily embraced Hussein's dictatorship in the 1980s when Iraq was the enemy of our enemy (Iran), and thus considered our de facto friend. Under the so-called "tilt" toward Iraq, the Reagan-Bush administration decided to assist Iraq in its war against Iran during the Iran-Iraq War of 1980-88.


Under Reagan, Iraq was removed from the list of countries that support terrorism, thus permitting the provision of billions of dollars' worth of agricultural credits and other forms of assistance to Hussein. The bearer of this good news was none other than Rumsfeld, who traveled to Baghdad and met with Hussein in December 1983 as a special representative of President Reagan.


The Department of Defense, then headed by Dick Cheney, provided Iraq with secret satellite data on Iranian military positions. This information was provided to Saddam even though U.S. leaders were informed by a senior State Department official on Nov. 1, 1983 that the Iraqis were using chemical weapons against the Iranians "almost daily," and could use U.S. satellite data to pinpoint chemical weapons attacks on Iranian positions.


Not once did Rumsfeld and Cheney speak out against Iraqi use of these weapons or suggest that the United States discontinue its support of the Hussein dictatorship during this period. There is no reason whatsoever to believe that the current leadership has a principled objection to dictatorial rule in Iraq.


Besides, the United States had developed close ties with the post-Soviet dictatorships in Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan -- all ruled by Stalinist dictators who once served the Soviet empire. And there certainly is nothing even remotely democratic about Kuwait or Saudi Arabia, two of America's other close allies in the region.


Other motives must be at work. Control of Iraq could give the United States de facto control over the Persian Gulf area and two-thirds of the world's oil -- an unrivaled prize in the historic human struggle for power and wealth.


Perhaps these ulterior motives do justify war on Iraq, even if the three stated reasons do not. If that is the case, the President should make this claim to the American public, and let us determine if we want such a war.


Michael Klare ([email protected]) is a professor of peace and world security studies at Hampshire College in Amherst, Mass., and the author of "Resource Wars: The New Landscape of Global Conflict" (Metropolitan Books/Henry Holt, 2001).
 
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Hey nefar559.. you post too much crap homie.. I'm not mad at ya for posting your opinion, or posting comments.. whatever man, more power to you.. but all these articals you post.. come on.. there all bias liberal crap.. I mean you can believe whatever you want.. But half the shit you post makes me think you're .. i dunno.. a dumbass for even giving those editorials your time.. I just had to say something.. you flood this forum with those things.. and if you can't see the one sided views they express.. damn.. I mean the guys that write these things must have tunnel vision or something.. my pennies.. hate me if you want.. i don't care.
 
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haha.. I knew you folx would attack me quick.. you people are blind.. I wont go up against this liberial bias forum.. I don't care enough right now.. but it gots to be said..
 
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Snubnoze said:
ya bias!!!!! those guys over at Alternet are from the infamous Mother Jones magazine. mother jones is as far LEFT as newsmax is RIGHT. LOL and you guys try and push them off as LEGIT come'on guys you can only get away with that for so long.

no bias!! LOL
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


ya bias!!!!! those guys over at Alternet are from the infamous Mother Jones magazine. mother jones is as far LEFT as newsmax is RIGHT. LOL and you guys try and push them off as LEGIT come'on guys you can only get away with that for so long.

no bias!! LOL
Knucklez said:
Hey nefar559.. you post too much crap homie.. I'm not mad at ya for posting your opinion, or posting comments.. whatever man, more power to you.. but all these articals you post.. come on.. there all bias liberal crap.. I mean you can believe whatever you want.. But half the shit you post makes me think you're .. i dunno.. a dumbass for even giving those editorials your time.. I just had to say something.. you flood this forum with those things.. and if you can't see the one sided views they express.. damn.. I mean the guys that write these things must have tunnel vision or something.. my pennies.. hate me if you want.. i don't care.

alway always the same ppl.

if you guys know something i dont, why haven't anyone of you foos ever disproved an arguemnet i post on the forum?....

always always, i get u'r lames opinions, which to me don't mean
much, and i hope the others on this forum feel the same way.
i disproved all u'r opinions and yet u guys keep goign
at it with u'r lame comments

fuck Knucklez back an arguement homie....u'r weak
Mcleanhatch i killed all u'r opinions, and you have yet to kill
one of mine....the only thing u say is "liberal bias"...LOL so fucken
laughable....
 
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i have posted several articles that completely counter everything that your articles say yet you choose to ignore them. i have posted alote of articles from reputable sources, and some from the far right newsmax also. but for every newsmax article i post up you post 5 from Alternet-Mother Jones, Chomsky, and F.A.I.R. (although i havent seen any of those from you lately)

i have posted articles from the New York Times, National Review, Wall Street Journal, Weekly Standard, CNS News, NY Daily News, Washington Times, and yes also from Newsmax so dont say that i havent disproven your articles because i have countered most of them with articles from my sources that say the opposite
 
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nefar559 said:

fuck Knucklez back an arguement homie....u'r weak
Mcleanhatch i killed all u'r opinions, and you have yet to kill
one of mine....the only thing u say is "liberal bias"...LOL so fucken
laughable....
I'm just saying that whatever your postion is on these issues.. your killing your credibility with these lame articals.. all they are is liberial propaganda.. anyone that doesn't have tunnel vision can see that. maybe you just don't care.. but whatever the case.. most those things are ridiculous. Thats my opinion..
 
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Oh come on Knucklez! Liberal propaganda!!??! You have got to be joking!

If anyone has "tunnel vision" on this site its you and mcleanhatch. Your killing your own credibility by attacking Nefars threads without ONCE bringing any logical arguements. All you have done so far is insult Nefar's articles without backing up yourself up.

Explain to us, how this or any other of Nefar's articles are Liberal Propaganda.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


ya bias!!!!! those guys over at Alternet are from the infamous Mother Jones magazine. mother jones is as far LEFT as newsmax is RIGHT. LOL and you guys try and push them off as LEGIT come'on guys you can only get away with that for so long.

no bias!! LOL
infamous?

there report on venzuela on last monthh issue wasn't
bias, it dipicted both sides equaly, and yet they forgot to mention
a couple of things about the oppsition.

but u wouldnt know....any newsmag u don't agree is far left,
liberail bias....yet u never proved the bias part of it...LMAO
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


because they are ALL from far left wing organizations that all have an agenda
you claim thtat my articles are liberal, and blah blah blah. right?

yet, u never heard that same arguement on mainstream tv...why?

jajajaajajja, see its not as liberal as we thought.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


because they are ALL from far left wing organizations that all have an agenda
that and..

why does it matter to you if I prove this shit or not, communist? no one can prove anything to anyone that refuses to listen. then we'd have to get into proof.. if its an opinion.. how do you prove that right or wrong.. its 'want you think'.. not 'what may be' true or not...

how tight do you hold these communist beliefs of yours? so tight that you can't stand back and question them and say "hey wait a sec here.. this shit isn't right".. you can't can you.. then how is anything I say gonna change your mind... if your not open enough for you to question things yourself.. how am I suppose to do the questioning for you?

having strong views is one thing.. being blind to outside views is another..

attack me again.. you amuse me..
 
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Knucklez said:
how tight do you hold these communist beliefs of yours? so tight that you can't stand back and question them and say "hey wait a sec here.. this shit isn't right".. you can't can you
one would think that he really believed in those communist beliefs but i dint think he really is as gung-ho as he claims because if he really was all into it. he would have already moved to either of these countries

Cuba
Venezuela
N. Korea or
China

to have the time of his life but instead he is her in America "the land of the free and home of the brave"
 
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Knucklez said:


that and..

why does it matter to you if I prove this shit or not, communist? no one can prove anything to anyone that refuses to listen. then we'd have to get into proof.. if its an opinion.. how do you prove that right or wrong.. its 'want you think'.. not 'what may be' true or not...

how tight do you hold these communist beliefs of yours? so tight that you can't stand back and question them and say "hey wait a sec here.. this shit isn't right".. you can't can you.. then how is anything I say gonna change your mind... if your not open enough for you to question things yourself.. how am I suppose to do the questioning for you?

having strong views is one thing.. being blind to outside views is another..

attack me again.. you amuse me..
maybe you didn't read this post

nefar559 said:





alway always the same ppl.

if you guys know something i dont, why haven't anyone of you foos ever disproved an arguemnet i post on the forum?....

always always, i get u'r lames opinions, which to me don't mean
much, and i hope the others on this forum feel the same way.
i disproved all u'r opinions and yet u guys keep goign
at it with u'r lame comments

[size = 4]fuck Knucklez back an arguement homie....u'r weak[size]
Mcleanhatch i killed all u'r opinions, and you have yet to kill
one of mine....the only thing u say is "liberal bias"...LOL so fucken
laughable....
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


one would think that he really believed in those communist beliefs but i dint think he really is as gung-ho as he claims because if he really was all into it. he would have already moved to either of these countries

Cuba
Venezuela
N. Korea or
China

to have the time of his life but instead he is her in America "the land of the free and home of the brave"
LMAO@mcleanhatch

i've told u many times, u'r lame
 
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Knucklez said:
Hey nefar559.. you post too much crap homie.. I'm not mad at ya for posting your opinion, or posting comments.. whatever man, more power to you.. but all these articals you post.. come on.. there all bias liberal crap.. I mean you can believe whatever you want.. But half the shit you post makes me think you're .. i dunno.. a dumbass for even giving those editorials your time.. I just had to say something.. you flood this forum with those things.. and if you can't see the one sided views they express.. damn.. I mean the guys that write these things must have tunnel vision or something.. my pennies.. hate me if you want.. i don't care.
And I guess a New York Times article listing all the times the Yankees have won the World Series would be biased too?

Im not gonna attack you, but please explain something to me...how is a FACT biased? Obviously you cant explain that...cuz there's no such thing as a biased fact.

So the only way your argument holds up is if you're claiming that they AREN'T facts. So go ahead...explain to us all why those facts arent real.