Bush mentions about WWIII

[Y-S]

Disturbing I know, and perharps scary article too...

Bush says fight against terror is World War III

WASHINGTON: United States President George W Bush has said the September 11 revolt of passengers against their hijackers on board Flight 93 had struck the first blow of World War III.

In an interview with the financial news network CNBC on Friday, Bush said he had yet to see the recently released film of the uprising, a dramatic portrayal of events on the United Airlines plane before it crashed in a Pennsylvania field.

But he said he agreed with the description of David Beamer, whose son Todd died in the crash, who in a Wall Street Journal commentary last month called it "our first successful counterattack in our homeland in this new global war – World War III".

Bush said, "I believe that. I believe that it was the first counterattack to World War III.

"It was, it was unbelievably heroic of those folks on the airplane to recognise the danger and save lives," he said.

Flight 93 crashed on the morning of September 11, 2001, killing the 33 passengers, seven crew members and four hijackers, after passengers stormed the cockpit and battled the hijackers for control of the aircraft.

The President has repeatedly praised the heroism of the passengers in fighting back and so launching the first blow of what he usually calls the "war on terror".

In 2002, then-White House spokesman Ari Fleischer explicitly declined to call the hunt for Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda group and its followers World War III.

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1028003&CatID=9

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\05\07\story_7-5-2006_pg1_3

 

[DASICCLV702]

I THINK HES BULLSHITTIN LIKE ALWAYS

 

[nefar559]

someone get a better new source.

 

[MaddDogg]

Bush the smartest man in history. He is handling the terrorism thing perfectly. Iraq was a great idea and so is Iran.

 

[Hutch]

World war III, I'm suprised it took Bush this long to use such terminology...

"Attacks against America only prove that the United States was Gods chosen nation, engaged in a righteous struggle with evil. It says so, right in the book of revelation... that the agony we endure is part of the birth pains of the coming of Messiah"

- Former Attorney General John Ashcroft following the events of 9/11

"I knew my God was bigger than [my islamic foe's], and I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol"

- Lieutenant General William Boykin, deriding the muslim belief in Allah as God (while dressed in military uniform)

Many of those in power are evangelical christians, and they believe that this new 'war' (world war III) should be fought between the children of God (christians) and those of the devil (muslims). This is the end game, this is what Bush has been setting up since daddy was in office. He wants war with islam - the so-called 'weapons of mass destruction' and what have you are merely excuses. I'm sure he's as happy as a pig in shit that Iran is refusing to back down on their uranium enrichment program, another perfect excuse to declare war on the middle east.

America wants to envoke chapter 7 of the UN charter (I think they are interested predominantly with article 42) with regards to Iran, whereas China and Russia have expressed their opposition to such a move as it allows for economic sanctions or even war 'if required'.

I can picture Bush now 'your day of judgement is coming muslim sinners, may the hand of the one true God strike you down!'. Looks like America is going to 'take the lead' in this war, the war between good and evil, between believers and sinners - world war III.

 

[Y-S]

Well said, Hutch

I also have heard Bush has violated or ignored about like 780 laws or something

Check the new thread I'm bout to post

 

[HERESY]

Many of those in power are evangelical christians

WRONG! Give me the name of ONE person in power who is a TRUE evangelical christian. Give me the name of ONE person in power who's religious beliefs are not tied to freemasonry and occultism or whos piety does not come under scrutiny because of affiliation to certain groups (CFR, BILDERBERG,TLC,CLUB OF ROME, ETC.)

If you can't do this refrain from making hasty generalizations about evangelical christians and focus your attention on the TRUE religion these people follow.

and they believe that this new 'war' (world war III) should be fought between the children of God (christians) and those of the devil (muslims).

This is the rhetoric they promote (to people who are sheep), but this is NOT what they believe and FAR from REALITY.

This is the end game, this is what Bush has been setting up since daddy was in office.

Jr can't wage a war like this on his own. He can't set something like this up unless he gets the green light from his superiors (not congress.) Set up in advance? Possibly. Set up by Jr? No way in hell.

He wants war with islam - the so-called 'weapons of mass destruction' and what have you are merely excuses.

Again, this is NOT the case.

I'm sure he's as happy as a pig in shit that Iran is refusing to back down on their uranium enrichment program, another perfect excuse to declare war on the middle east.

Declaring war on the Middle East? Israel is part of the middle east will they be included in this declaration of war? Also, declaring war on the mid east would derail the war on islam (that you believe is happening) and include the MILLIONS of Jewish citizens in the region.

America wants to envoke chapter 7 of the UN charter (I think they are interested predominantly with article 42) with regards to Iran, whereas China and Russia have expressed their opposition to such a move as it allows for economic sanctions or even war 'if required'.

If I am not mistaking america has done it twice now. Oh well.

I can picture Bush now 'your day of judgement is coming muslim sinners, may the hand of the one true God strike you down!'. Looks like America is going to 'take the lead' in this war, the war between good and evil, between believers and sinners - world war III.

7 Days BEFORE 9-11 even happened I said the attack would hit and from that attack a war that would lead to WW3. Now it is all unfolding and more people are going to get killed. It's pretty interesting because apostasy is running rampant now. Another topic...another time.

 

[Hutch]

George W. Bush is an evangelical christian, through and through. Just prior to the 2004 elections, when Bush was asked by Reverend Jerry Falwell how he would convince the lord to let him into heaven, Bush replied "I know we're all sinners, but I've accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I know what it means to be right with God". Even the reverend Jerry Falwell states that 'we know instantly that he is one of ours by the way he speaks'.

On the 13th of December 2003, the day that Saddam Hussein was finally apprehended in Tikrit, the first 5 phone calls Bush made after his closest political advisors had been informed, were to Bush snr., the Reverend Billy Graham, the Reverend Franklin Graham, the Attorney General John Ashcroft (see his quote in my previous message), and his preacher from the United Methodist Church in Dallas. On their knees, Bush and Att. Gen. John Ashcroft bowed their heads as Graham prayed: "Jesus, your fingerprints are on the mission, and it is because of you, O Lord, that the Evil that is Saddam Hussein has been brought to justice. In the name of Jesus Christ, we thank you for bearing this great gift to the good people of the blessed United States of America".

Although Israel is part of the middle east, evangelical christians believe in the special place that the Jewish people and Israel have in Gods ultimate plans. Evangelicals believe that Jesus as the Messiah will not return until the land of Israel is under Jewish control;

"In that day Jehovah made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates, the Kenite, and the Kenizzite, and the Kadmonite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Rephaim, and the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Girgashite, and the Jebusite." (i.e. Israel)

Genesis 15:18-21


And yes, this even after Bush stated "non-believers in Christ, including Jews, go to Hell" (in a 1993 interview with a Jewish reporter from the Austin American Statesman). Even Joseph Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew, said "We are all Evangelicals now". Lieutenant General William Boykin, a quote of whose I posted in the previous message, referring to the current war in Iraq, stated that "We are in an army of God for such a time as this". Crusade anyone?

And sure, Bush Jnr. can't wage a war like this on his own - but he's done a great job of surrounding himself with people who are determined to intervene militarily wherever Islam threatens western values. I believe I read in another of these threads that Rumsfeld is trying to tell everyone that 'he never said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq' (i.e. (a) it is either merely an excuse, or (b) it was pure speculation in which case America had a right to 'intervene militarily wherever Islam threatens western values' - get them before they get us).

And they are not promoting the rhetoric of 'children of God (christians) vs. those of the devil (muslims)' - instead, they are steadfast in their claim that 'these countries harbor terrorists and will attack us if given the chance. Thus, we have to prevent them from doing anything militarily that threatens western values (which means ANYTHING militarily)'.

"The enemy has got a face. He's called Satan. He lives in Fallujah"

- Marine Lieutenant-Colonel Gareth Brandl, speaking to the BBC, 7 November 2004

 

[HERESY]

George W. Bush is an evangelical christian, through and through.

Did you not read the initial statement? Here I'll type it in bold:

Give me the name of ONE person in power who is a TRUE evangelical christian. Give me the name of ONE person in power who's religious beliefs are not tied to freemasonry and occultism or whos piety does not come under scrutiny because of affiliation to certain groups (CFR, BILDERBERG,TLC,CLUB OF ROME, ETC.)

Bush is a BONESMEN FIRST. How can you POSSIBLY call this man an evangelical christian when he is a member of the Skull & Bones and basically practices a Luciferian doctrine? Also, if bush is an evangelical christian through and through, I would like for you to explain his evangelical position. Is it rooted in the christian doctrine? If so, why is he a member of the Skull & Bones and why does he tolerate paganism and occult practices in the white house? Why does he endorse policy contrary to the christian doctrine? Is he evangelical in the Lutheran or Protestant sense?

when Bush was asked by Reverend Jerry Falwell how he would convince the lord to let him into heaven, Bush replied "I know we're all sinners, but I've accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I know what it means to be right with God". Even the reverend Jerry Falwell states that 'we know instantly that he is one of ours by the way he speaks'.

The bible speaks of MANY people who say they have accepted Yeshi as lord and savior, but guess what? Many of these people are HELL BOUND. Also, he can speak all he wants, but what about his actions?

http://religiousleft.bmgbiz.net/bushandjesus.html :dead:

On the 13th of December 2003, the day that Saddam Hussein was finally apprehended in Tikrit, the first 5 phone calls Bush made after his closest political advisors had been informed, were to Bush snr., the Reverend Billy Graham, the Reverend Franklin Graham, the Attorney General John Ashcroft (see his quote in my previous message), and his preacher from the United Methodist Church in Dallas. On their knees, Bush and Att. Gen. John Ashcroft bowed their heads as Graham prayed: "Jesus, your fingerprints are on the mission, and it is because of you, O Lord, that the Evil that is Saddam Hussein has been brought to justice. In the name of Jesus Christ, we thank you for bearing this great gift to the good people of the blessed United States of America".

And you obtained this info from where?

Although Israel is part of the middle east, evangelical christians believe in the special place that the Jewish people and Israel have in Gods ultimate plans. Evangelicals believe that Jesus as the Messiah will not return until the land of Israel is under Jewish control;

However, this belief is NOT exclusive to "evangelical christians." Also, this statement does NOTHING to reconcile or clarify your claim that bush wants to declare war with the middle east.

"In that day Jehovah made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates, the Kenite, and the Kenizzite, and the Kadmonite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Rephaim, and the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Girgashite, and the Jebusite." (i.e. Israel)

Useless info. If you have not read the Bible and believe it is inaccurate, why are you citing it as a source to validate your position pertaining to certain beliefs? It is HIGHLY illogical to say "they believe this" when YOU don't even know what "this" is.

And yes, this even after Bush stated "non-believers in Christ, including Jews, go to Hell" (in a 1993 interview with a Jewish reporter from the Austin American Statesman). Even Joseph Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew, said "We are all Evangelicals now". Lieutenant General William Boykin, a quote of whose I posted in the previous message, referring to the current war in Iraq, stated that "We are in an army of God for such a time as this". Crusade anyone?

This does nothing to substantiate your claim. Claiming you are an army for God doesn't mean you are evangelical. Muslims who fight against americans say the same thing are they evangelical? Of course not. Again, you are quoting these people, but EVERYONE you have listed can be scrutinized on their affiliations alone.

And sure, Bush Jnr. can't wage a war like this on his own - but he's done a great job of surrounding himself with people who are determined to intervene militarily wherever Islam threatens western values.

This does nothing for your original statement. Your original statement was made in regards to the bush (jr) setting up this war ever since his father was in office. Again, everything he does is because he gets the green light. He is surrounded by certain people because he was BORN into an elitist family with elitist dogmas and doctrines. So, with that being said, HE is NOT surrounding himself with anyone. THEY are choosing who, what, when and where. THEY are choosing his advisors, his members, his team, etc etc etc.

And they are not promoting the rhetoric of 'children of God (christians) vs. those of the devil (muslims)'

If they believe, and I quote, "this new 'war' (world war III) should be fought between the children of God (christians) and those of the devil (muslims)." how would YOU know about this belief if they did NOT promote it?

- instead, they are steadfast in their claim that 'these countries harbor terrorists and will attack us if given the chance. Thus, we have to prevent them from doing anything militarily that threatens western values (which means ANYTHING militarily)'.

These actions would disqualify them from being TRUE evangelical christians.

"The enemy has got a face. He's called Satan. He lives in Fallujah"

And this would appear to contradict your statement that "they are not promoting the rhetoric of 'children of God (christians) vs. those of the devil (muslims)'"

 

[Hutch]

Ah, pardon my ignorance, but most of the sources I find keep shoving the 'Bush as an evangelical christian' down my throat. Are you suggesting that Bush is a wolf in sheeps clothing, trying to convince evenone that he is an evangelical christian in order to gain popularity but covertly doing the devils dirty work? Which of the following do you believe most accurately describes Bush's current position;

(a) He is an evangelical christian and believes that this is another crusade and that he is fighting a holy war against muslims, the unbelievers who's day of judgement is coming;

(b) He is a satanist and is convincing evangelical christians that he is one of them in order to gain their support and trust, but he is in actual fact part of 'the evil which is fighting against the good of islam'.

(c) He's just a greedy bastard trying to take advange of the middle east in order to exploit their natural resources for money and is just putting on this whole 'evangelical christian' act in order to gain support from the evangelical community, of which half the country are members. This allows him to stay in power and convince people that what he's doing is 'Gods will' whilst he's simply all about the money.

Who is this THEY you speak of when stating that he (Bush) is not surrounding himself with anyone but it is they who are choosing who, what, when and where?

And I was simply including that bible crap and info on 'Jews as the chosen people' to explain why Bush is not including Israel in this 'war on the middle east'.

Finally, I did not make any generalisations about evangelical christians - just a select few. I understand that most of them are good people and that 'finding God' has enriched their lives immensly and made them better people because of it. However, if bush isn't an evangelical christian and has such blatant satanistic ties and alterior motives, then are evangelical christians completely free from blame seeing that the majority voted for Bush in the 2004 elections?

 

[HERESY]

Ah, pardon my ignorance, but most of the sources I find keep shoving the 'Bush as an evangelical christian' down my throat. Are you suggesting that Bush is a wolf in sheeps clothing, trying to convince evenone that he is an evangelical christian in order to gain popularity but covertly doing the devils dirty work?

This would be funny if it weren't reality.

Which of the following do you believe most accurately describes Bush's current position;

the majority of B and the majority of C (staying in power has nothing to do with the vote.)

Who is this THEY you speak of when stating that he (Bush) is not surrounding himself with anyone but it is they who are choosing who, what, when and where?

"THEY" are the ones who call the shots. The leaders of the Skull & Bones (who have been proven to place people in positions of power), the members of the TLC, the members of the CFR and the Bilderbergers. The people you see (or hear of) are indoctrinated and SELECTED for these positions.

And I was simply including that bible crap and info on 'Jews as the chosen people' to explain why Bush is not including Israel in this 'war on the middle east'.

Bush not including Israel has nothing to do with any verse in the bible.

Finally, I did not make any generalisations about evangelical christians - just a select few. I understand that most of them are good people and that 'finding God' has enriched their lives immensly and made them better people because of it. However, if bush isn't an evangelical christian and has such blatant satanistic ties and alterior motives, then are evangelical christians completely free from blame seeing that the majority voted for Bush in the 2004 elections?

Ignorance is not an excuse.

 

[Snorlaxity]

If you guys haven't seen this hour and 20 minute video on the 9/11 conspiricy, check it out. Are we even going to war for any reason? Well you judge for yourself.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change