Bush condemns House vote on Armenian genocide

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This is a good article regarding the recent vote to label the massacres of Armenians by Turkey from 1915 to 1923 as genocide and why the Bush Admin cares if it's labeled as genocide or not. This pretty much sums it up: "The Bush administration is concerned, not only about a potential clash between Turkish and Kurdish forces within US-occupied Iraq, but about a broader destabilizing effect throughout the Middle East and the Caucasus....Eastern Turkey, site of both the Armenian genocide 92 years ago and the Kurdish guerrilla warfare today, is also transected by the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline, a critical element in the US strategy to obtain access to the vast oil and gas resources of the Caspian Sea."



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Bush condemns House vote on Armenian genocide
By Patrick Martin
12 October 2007




The Bush administration and the Turkish government have denounced the action of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, which adopted a resolution Wednesday branding the massacres of Armenians in Turkey from 1915 to 1923 as genocide and calling on the US government to officially recognize this as an historical fact.

The resolution was adopted by a 27-21 vote that cut across party lines—19 Democrats and 8 Republicans voted for the measure, while 13 Republicans and 8 Democrats voted against. The resolution could come to a vote in the House of Representatives as early as Friday, and passage there seems assured, since there are 226 co-sponsors, more than a majority of the House.

The resolution is non-binding and thus has no legal effect on US government policy. It is also less likely to pass the Senate, where only 32 of 100 senators have agreed to co-sponsor the bill, far fewer than the 60 votes required to overcome a filibuster and force a vote.

Despite the purely symbolic character of the resolution, however, the Bush administration is waging a ferocious campaign to defeat it. Bush made an appearance in the White House Rose Garden just before the House committee vote, telling the press, “This resolution is not the right response to these historic mass killings, and its passage would do great harm to our relations with a key ally in NATO and in the global war on terror.”

These sentiments were echoed by Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who each issued statements warning that the House action would worsen US relations with Turkey.

Gates pointed out that 70 percent of all air cargo sent to Iraq passes through Turkey, as well as 30 percent of fuel and nearly all armored vehicles. He said that US officials in occupied Iraq “believe clearly that access to airfields and to the roads and so on in Turkey would be very much put at risk if this resolution passes and the Turks react as strongly as we believe they will.”

The Turkish government cut off military cooperation with France last year after the French parliament adopted legislation to make denial of the Armenian genocide a criminal offense, on a par with denial of the Nazi Holocaust.

The US foreign policy establishment was mobilized on a bipartisan basis to oppose the bill, with all eight living former secretaries of state signing a joint statement to that effect. This includes Democrats Madeleine Albright and Warren Christopher as well as Republicans Henry Kissinger, Alexander Haig, George Shultz, Lawrence Eagleburger, James Baker and Colin Powell.

Passage of the resolution by the House committee touched off a storm of protest in Turkey, with tens of thousands participating in nationalist demonstrations denouncing the proposed US congressional action. Turkey withdrew its ambassador, Nabi Sensoy, who had attended the House committee meeting at the head of a delegation of Turkish legislators.

The government of Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan issued a statement declaring, “It is not possible to accept such an accusation of a crime which was never committed by the Turkish nation.” It criticized the House committee, both for allegedly rewriting history and for interfering in “a matter which specifically concerns the common history of Turks and Armenians.”

Officials in Ankara said that if the full House of Representatives adopted the resolution, Turkey might reconsider its support for US military operations in Iraq, including shipments of supplies and the stationing of US warplanes at the Incirlik air base.

The Turkish foreign ministry issued a statement calling the resolution “an irresponsible move, which comes at a greatly sensitive time.” This was a reference to the growing tensions along the Iraq-Turkish border in the wake of a series of clashes between Turkish troops and Kurdish guerrillas loyal to the separatist PKK (Kurdish Workers Party).

Kurdish fighters killed 13 Turkish soldiers Sunday in Sirnak province, the worst cross-border incident since the US overthrow of Saddam Hussein, and the Turkish army has mobilized tanks and troops in a position to invade northern Iraq. The ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) decided Tuesday to seek parliamentary authorization for such an invasion, although it has not yet decided to give the order.

The Bush administration is concerned, not only about a potential clash between Turkish and Kurdish forces within US-occupied Iraq, but about a broader destabilizing effect throughout the Middle East and the Caucasus. This region is the most explosive in the world, with ongoing conflicts between Russians and Chechens, Russia and Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Turkey and Kurdish rebels, Israel and Syria, and between Iran and the US occupation forces in Iraq—to say nothing of the ongoing bloodbath in Iraq itself.

Eastern Turkey, site of both the Armenian genocide 92 years ago and the Kurdish guerrilla warfare today, is also transected by the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline, a critical element in the US strategy to obtain access to the vast oil and gas resources of the Caspian Sea. The pipeline, built under US auspices as an alternative to the Russian pipeline system, begins in the Azerbaijan capital and passes through Georgia and eastern Turkey to the port of Ceyhan on the Mediterranean Sea.

It is, of course, the height of hypocrisy for the US House of Representatives to pronounce against a 92-year-old genocide while continuing to fund an imperialist war of aggression which has taken as many lives as the anti-Armenian pogroms during and after World War I. According to a recent survey by the British polling organization ORB, some 1.2 million Iraqis have died violently since the US invasion in March 2003. Historians have estimated the death toll in the Armenian massacres as between 500,000 and 1.5 million.

There is little argument that what took place in eastern Turkey between 1915 and 1923 constituted the first case of genocide in the twentieth century, an event that both Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin studied and drew lessons from. Hitler is said to have remarked, as he ordered the beginning of mass extermination of Jews in occupied Poland, “Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?” Stalin emulated the methods of the Turkish regime in his mass deportations of Chechens, Volga Germans and other ethnic groups deemed potentially disloyal in World War II.

In the wake of Turkey’s defeat in 1915 by Russian armies on the Caucasus front, one of the early campaigns of World War I, the Turkish government ordered the mass expulsion of the entire Armenian population from its ancestral homeland which overlapped the Russo-Turkish border. The Armenians, largely Christian, were considered a pro-Russian fifth column and blamed for the Turkish military setbacks.

The massacres were touched off by the arrest and killing of hundreds of Armenian nationalists and intellectuals in a government crackdown on April 24, 1915. Hundreds of thousands of Armenians subsequently died, some killed by Turkish troops or lynched in pogroms, more dying of starvation, exposure or heat under conditions of forced marches from the mountains down into the Mesopotamian desert (what is now Syria and western Iraq).

Press accounts in the last few days have distorted what took place beginning in 1915, describing it as an atrocity carried out by the Ottoman Empire, although it was actually ordered by the Young Turks. These military officers seized power in 1908, reducing the Ottoman sultan to figurehead status, and advocated a program of aggressive Turkish nationalism. They were the political mentors of Kemal Ataturk, founder of the secular Turkish republic in 1923, and there is a direct line of continuity to the Kemalist military establishment in contemporary Turkey.

This political continuity is at the root of the ongoing denial of the Armenian genocide, a central tenet of Turkish bourgeois nationalism, embraced particularly by the military brass and the fascist “Grey Wolves.” Acknowledging the Armenian genocide is still a criminal offense in Turkey, for which the Nobel prize-winning author Orhan Pamuk was put on trial in Istanbul in 2005. In January of this year, Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink was shot to death by a young Turkish fascist in Istanbul for writing about the mass murders.

The US congressional resolution is not motivated by any principled concern with these tragic historical events, however. In part, there is the desire to curry favor with the Armenian-American lobby, influential in California, home to most Armenian-Americans. All ten members of the Foreign Affairs Committee from California, Democrats and Republicans, voted for the resolution.

There is another more sinister factor, expressed in the comments of Congressman Brad Sherman of California, a Democrat and major sponsor of the bill. Citing the possibility of US-backed military intervention in the Darfur region of the Sudan, Sherman said, “If we hope to stop future genocides we need to admit to those horrific acts of the past.” He dismissed the significance of the Turkish reaction, saying, “We will get a few angry words out of Ankara for a few days, and then it’s over.”

Another Democrat gave voice to the anti-Muslim bigotry that lies just below the surface in such discussions, declaring, in response to warnings of the possible impact on US military operations, “I feel like I have a Turkish sword over my head.”

The prize for cynicism and hypocrisy must go to Senator Hillary Clinton, who is a co-sponsor of the Senate version of the Armenian genocide resolution, although President Bill Clinton blocked the last such measure in the House of Representatives in 2000. Her husband prevailed on then Speaker Dennis Hastert to shelve a scheduled vote on the grounds that provoking an anti-American reaction in Turkey would cause considerable damage to US foreign policy interests.
 

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Some more to read about this subject:

'The West Needs Turkey as a Reliable Ally'

Tensions between the US and Turkey are growing as Ankara considers attacking PKK bases in northern Iraq and a congressional committee in Washington pushes forward a resolution calling the World War I massacre of Armenians "genocide." German commentators are concerned at the deteriorating relations between the NATO allies.

Relations between the United States and Turkey have hit a new low point as a US congressional committee labels the Armenian massacre as genocide and Turkey prepares the ground for military operations in northern Iraq.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Friday that Ankara was prepared to face up to international criticism if his country launched an attack on Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq.

"After going down this route, its cost has already been calculated," Erdogan told reporters when asked about international reaction to such an operation. "Whatever the cost is, it will be met."

Erdogan's government has decided to seek approval from parliament (more...) next week for military incursions into northern Iraq to pursue Kurdish rebels there. The bill would give the government a one-year authorization to launch military operations across the border against the banned Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).

On Wednesday, Washington warned Turkey against unilateral action in northern Iraq. The US does not want to rock the boat in what is Iraq's most peaceful region, fearing that a Turkish offensive could potentially destabilize the wider region. Turkey is a key US ally and has the second-largest army in NATO.

US-Turkish relations have also been soured by a move on Wednesday by the Congressional Foreign Affairs Committtee to approve a resolution (more...) that would label the Ottoman massacre of Armenians during World War I as genocide. The resolution now goes to the floor of the House of Representatives, with a vote expected by mid-November. The resolution is supported by the powerful Armenian-American lobby.

The decision, which is expected to ramp up anti-American sentiment in Turkey, was strongly condemned in the country, with street protests erupting in Ankara and Istanbul. Expressing its diplomatic displeasure, Turkey on Thursday recalled its ambassador to the US for consultations, and the government in Ankara said the resolution, if passed, would damage US-Turkish relations.

Commentators writing in Germany's main newspapers Friday expressed concern at the deteriorating relations between the two allies.

The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes:

"The (congressional committee's) decision could cause great damage, on two levels: on the one hand to fundamental realpolitik interests, but also to efforts to deal with the past in Turkey itself. ... The United States and the West need Turkey as a reliable ally. The country has the second-largest army in NATO and is an important anchor of stability in an increasingly hostile and unstable region. ... However, it is the timing which is fatal: The resolution coincides with a rising wave of anti-American and anti-West rhetoric in Turkey. ... It is hardly a coincidence that Ankara's motion on cross-border military operations in northern Iraq comes at the same time as the resolution in Washington."

"Something strange has been happening in Turkey in recent years. The old taboos have started to crack as intellectuals, writers and journalists push for a genuine reappraisal of the massacres. ... Resolutions by foreign parliaments do not help these timid attempts to come to terms with the past. On the contrary, they play into the hands of the nationalists and those who deny the massacres."

The center-right Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes:

"The decision ... is a lesson in American politics. In this lesson, a whole variety of people and factors are in play in the background: the influence of a strategically placed lobby, the meaning of history and human rights in conflict with security and political interests, the relationship between Congress and the president, the calculations of leading politicians, and so on ... . It's clear that Ankara henceforth will have less regard for Washington's interests and wishes."

The Financial Times Deutschland writes:

"Politically, it's a inexpensive gift to a few voting blocks in the US, and a very expensive affront to Turkey ... An open fight between Ankara and Washington mostly endangers supply-chains for troops in Iraq that arrive through Turkey. ... The timing for an uproar over history and etiquette could not be more inauspicious."

"American representatives appear little interested: Recently they officially concluded it would be best to have Iraq divided into Shiite, Sunni, and Kurdish areas ... For Turkey, a neighboring independent Kurdish state is a horror to imagine."

The left-leaning Die Tageszeitung writes:

"From the Turkish viewpoint, yesterday's resolution looks like a provocation. The reputation of the United States has long been at a low point. You have to go back a long way to find a similarly bad atmosphere -- perhaps to 1974, when Washington and Ankara fell out over Cyprus."

"Since the US invasion of Iraq, the Kurdish PKK has operated from northern Iraq against targets in Turkey without being hindered by the US Army or its allied Kurdish militias. This is a catastrophic political failure on both sides. The United States -- whether out of ignorance or calculation -- has allowed its Kurdish allies in northern Iraq to play the PKK card... . If the US government does not visibly act to hinder PKK attacks in the coming weeks, then there is the risk of a new theater of war emerging in Iraq."


-- David Gordon Smith, 11:30 a.m. CET

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,511077,00.html
 

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And more:

ARMENIAN LOBBY'S TRIUMPH

Genocide Resolution Risks Shattering Relations with Turkey
By Gregor Peter Schmitz in Washington

A small resolution with a big effect: A US Congressional committee has voted to call the massacre of Armenians during World War I genocide -- a move that now threatens to shatter the Turkish-American friendship. The history of the resolution is a lesson in the power of lobbying.

Stephen Walt is a down-to-earth man who doesn't like long sentences. He is a professor at Harvard and together with his colleague from Chicago John Mearsheimer he caused quite a fuss earlier this year. They published an article and then a book with the simple title "The Israel Lobby." Their central thesis: A small group of very influential friends of Israel have forced US foreign policy into an unconditional backing of Israel, which is damaging Americans' strategic interests.

When SPIEGEL ONLINE recently asked Walt if other interest groups had a similar influence in Washington, the realist wouldn't hear of it. He said that the actions of Armenian-Americans or Cuban-Americans would never have the same far-reaching effects on US foreign policy.

Really? Two days ago the House of Representatives' Foreign Affairs Committee approved a remarkable resolution. The mass murder of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire starting in 1915 was to be named genocide.

The result was a medium-level political earthquake. US President George W. Bush reacted with anger. Turkey temporarily recalled its ambassador from Washington, and Turkish newspapers seethed with rage. And all that even though the resolution is only symbolic in character and won't be presented to Congress for a vote until November. How could it go so far?

Armenians say that more than 1.5 million people were killed during the deportations and massacres during World War I, while according to Turkish figures between 200,000 and 300,000 Armenians were killed. Turkey still refuses to accept the description of the crimes as genocide and speaks instead of the "repression" of a rebellious people who were allied with the Russians during World War I.

The Triumph of the Armenian Lobby

Armenian-Americans have been fighting for years to have the massacre of Armenians be officially named genocide in the United States.

Concerns over a lasting cooling of relations between Turkey and the US had always prevented a genocide resolution being passed -- President Bush had failed to stick to his election promise to work towards the recognition of the genocide. He regularly declined to use the word genocide in his annual speech in April to mark the beginning of the massacres. In 2000 a similar draft resolution was pulled when US President Bill Clinton intervened at the last moment.

The fact that it has now been approved is a triumph for the "Armenian Lobby," if you want to call them that. Around 1.2 million Americans have Armenian forefathers and many of them grew up listening to the tales of the suffering of their people.

Armenian-Americans are particularly active in California, New Jersey and Michigan -- which happens to be the constituency of Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Speaker of the House. Her Californian colleague Adam Schiff, who promoted the resolution, has the issue to thank for his own political career. His predecessor in the constituency lost his seat when he failed to push through the resolution in 2000.

Armenian groups have been bombarding their representatives over the past few years with an unusually massive PR drive. Their most important umbrella group "Armenian Assembly of America" has 10,000 members and an annual budget of over $3.5 million. It employs four different influential PR firms in Washington to keep the suffering of the Armenians on the agenda in the US capital.

The Turkish government couldn't do enough to counter them, even though for years it has invested millions of dollars in presenting its arguments. Ankara engaged prominent former representatives like Republican Bob Livingston, who even produced his own video in which he argued against unnecessarily damaging relations with Turkey. And he said that Turkey was still an important symbol of how a Muslim society can build democratic structures.

In the complicated intertwining of minority representation in the US, many Americans with Armenian roots also say the approval of the resolution as a sign that they have arrived in the center of American society. They compare their lobby work with the success of the Jewish lobby in the US, which has anchored the commemoration of the Holocaust in Americans' collective memory.

Washington is Worried

Admittedly they have a long way to go: the massive protests against the resolution showed the effects of its passage a day later. Of course, some representatives ruefully admitted that perhaps it was not the best of the timing. According to the hearing, the congressional representatives are already considering another resolution -- one that would stress how important relations with its Turkish ally are to the US.

And President George W. Bush immediately expressed his concern, saying the initiative undermines relations with a close ally in the fight against terrorism. All eight living former US Secretaries of State signed a letter of protest against the resolution. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates sought to remind people that around 70 percent of all air transports for the US troops heading to Iraq go through Turkey. And US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Nicholas Burns, tried for an entire day at the beginning of the week to convince members of Congress to veto the resolution.

That's an awful lot of attention paid to a vote about an historical event about which very few Americans (or even Europeans) know the details. But because the memory of the Armenian suffering is still a delicate subject for modern Turkey, any attempt to deal with it risks being a powder keg for the once-warm relationship between the US and Turkey.

The relationship has been approaching a crisis for some time -- recently more than ever because the Turks are agitated about the attacks by militant Kurdish troops in Iraq and are even considering a military attack. The US wants to avoid this at all costs. Turkey's logistical support for the US-led Iraq invasion is, in turn, still highly controversial. A current poll reported that 83 percent of Turks would wish to discontinue such support if the US Congress votes to pass the Armenian resolution.

The Turks have proven in the past that such threats are not empty promises: When the French parliament passed a resolution making denial of the Armenian genocide a crime punishable by law in 2006, the Turkish broke off their military relationship with France. But up until now there has been no clear sign -- aside from the short-term departure of the ambassador to Washington -- that they would go far beyond symbolic gestures.


http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,511210,00.html
 
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DFresh77 said:
maybe he should recognize that a million Iraqi's have died due to his war...

that's also genocide..
co sign.


And of course it's all about the Oil.

Even Nick Rockefeller admitted to Aaron Russo. that..

1. the war on terror is fake.. and is just a way to take
away civil liberties...

2. the war in iraq is just for the money and Oil.

and 3. Bush is the Rockefeller's BITCH, because he can't think or act for himself.. Henry Kissinger is a big part of all this as well.
 
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This is what the Bush Admin was afraid of:

Wednesday, 17 October 2007
Turkish MPs back attacks in Iraq

Turkey's parliament has given permission for the government to launch military operations into Iraq in pursuit of Kurdish rebels.

The vote was taken in defiance of pressure from the US and Iraq, which have called on Turkey for restraint.


Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said the motion does not mean a military operation is imminent.

But he said Turkey needed to be able to respond to a recent rise in bomb attacks blamed on PKK rebels from Iraq.

Turkish MPs backed him overwhelmingly, by 507 votes to 19.

As the vote was being counted, President George W Bush strongly urged America's Turkish ally not to carry out the threatened action.




He said Washington was "making it clear to Turkey it is not in their interest to send more troops in... there is a better way to deal with the issue".

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki had earlier phoned the Turkish prime minister, saying he was "absolutely determined" to remove the PKK from Iraq and pleading for more time, according to Turkey's Anatolia news agency.

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, an ethnic Kurd, urged Turkey not to make an incursion, but also called on the PKK "to end the so-called military activity".

The autonomous Kurdish regional government in northern Iraq warned Turkish MPs that any intervention would be "illegal". It has denied providing the PKK with any help.

The rebels themselves said they would meet force with force.

The chief of the PKK's executive council, Murat Karayilan, told the Kurdish Hawlati newspaper: "Thousands of PKK guerrillas are on standby to fight Turkish army forces."

However Syrian President Bashar Assad, visiting Turkey, said he supported the country's right to take the action "against terrorism and terrorist activities".

President Bush, speaking during a press conference, criticised Congress for jeopardising US relations with Turkey with a planned vote to recognise the mass killing of Armenians in Ottoman times as genocide.

"One thing Congress should not be doing is sorting out the historical record of the Ottoman Empire," he said.

Although a Congressional committee has supported the motion, its chances of passing a full vote appear to be waning.

Key Democrats in the US House of Representatives have joined Republicans to warn that US strategic interests could be damaged by the largely symbolic resolution.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7049348.stm
 
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Further:

Conflict between Turkey and the US intensifies
17 October 2007

The conflict between Turkey and the US over the question of military intervention by the Turkish military in northern Iraq is intensifying.

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The motion gives the government and army broad powers to intervene in neighboring Iraq during the period of one year. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan stressed that any planned Turkish operation would be directed exclusively against the separatist Kurdish Workers Party (PKK), which occupies bases in northern Iraq, but the motion included no geographic specifications that would limit the Turkish intervention.

It is well known that Ankara is determined to prevent the emergence of an independent Kurdish state in northern Iraq and also any annexation of the city of Kirkuk by the autonomous region of Kurdistan—an issue which is subject to a popular referendum at the end of the year.

Kirkuk lies at the heart of the oil producing region in northern Iraq and its revenues would provide a Kurdish state with a solid financial basis. Large Turkmen and Assyrian minorities reside in Kirkuk, along with the Kurds and Arabs. The Kurdish regional government has systematically sought to extend Kurdish influence in the city at the expense of these other ethnic groups.

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Washington fears that any Turkish military incursion could plunge the relatively calm north of Iraq into chaos and open up a new front between two traditional allies of the US—NATO member Turkey and the Iraqi Kurds.

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Already last weekend Turkish troops fired more than 250 artillery shells and at least 10 missiles into Iraqi territory and, according to military experts, an invasion of Iraq must take place soon for any chance of success before the start of winter in the rugged mountains of the northern part of the country.

Tensions between Ankara and Washington have also been exacerbated by the resolution passed by the US House Foreign Affairs Committee, which refers to the mass murder of Armenians in 1915 as genocide. This touches on a fundament pillar of Turkish state policy. In an interview with the newspaper Milliyet, the commander of the Turkish armed forces, General Yasar Büyükanit, warned that “military relations with the US would never be the same” if the resolution were to pass the Senate.

Ankara has even threatened to close the US airbase at Incirlik if the resolution is approved. A large proportion of American supplies for its war against Iraq pass through this base.

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The bloodbath in Iraq, which has already cost hundred of thousands of lives, now threatens to engulf the entire region.

On the same day that the Syrian president was due to visit Ankara, Russian President Vladimir Putin arrived in Teheran. It was the first visit by the head of state of a world power in Iran since the revolution of 1979. Putin participated in a conference of states neighboring the Caspian Sea, to discuss distribution of the enormous reserves of gas and oil under that body of water.

Here there are major differences between Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan, on the one side, and Iran and Turkmenistan, on the other. Europe and the US also have a burning interest in the fate of the energy reserves in and around the Caspian.

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Yes funny how quick Bush condemnd the vote on the Armenian genocide when Turkey replied that the US will no longer be able to use army bases near the Iraqi border
 
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jerome corsi was on coast 2 coast last night and he spoke about the situation in turkey. that country is a key point for the united states military in regards to the iraqi occupation. its a strategic location for usa military planes to fly into iraq

corsi also said something interesting about russia. apparently vlad putin is backin the iran president in terms of the possible war stance. if turkey decides to invade iran all hell will break loose. not only will russia get involved in helpin iran but china might get involved as well. so the current situation in iraq is gonna get a lot messier if the turkey plans to invade iraq do happen