BREAKDANCING?

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Apr 11, 2003
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Who here likes watching breakdancing?

I used to be a b-boy when I was younger and for a few years that was my whole life. We had a crew called The Boogie Down Squad. I quit later but shit I get so juiced up when I watch a b-boy video and I remember how much love I had for it at one point.

Is anyone else here into it too?
 
May 14, 2002
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When i was in germany i would battle hella fools but no on ereally battles around these parts im not to much into straight up breakin like fuckin flares and all that i got a pretty cool 6step and do some other styles hip hop and shit but i think having a crew is kinda ...i dunno whatever i just like to show fools up.It aint my life or nothing.
 
May 2, 2002
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ColdBlooded said:
who calls it break dancing other than white kids in 1980's suburbia?
you don't even know wtf you're talking about. in the early 80's, the inner-city kids were calling it breakdancing and performing. It died out before it even reached suburbia. I rarely ever saw white kids doing it.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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big D said:
you don't even know wtf you're talking about. in the early 80's, the inner-city kids were calling it breakdancing and performing. It died out before it even reached suburbia. I rarely ever saw white kids doing it.

:rolleyes:

i do know wft i'm talking about actually.

late 70's early 80's inner city kids were called b-boy and/or b-girls, not breakdancers. they weren't performing, they were just dancing for their own enjoyment and competition with their peers. “breakdancing” was coined as a marketing tool feeding the media phenomenon that brought this new dance to lilly white suburbia. Origional practicioners and true schoolers don’t call it breakdancing, just white kids in the burbs and new schooler heads that don’t know any better. and they often get things confused, surprise, between different types of dancing like popping, locking, etc

the name b-boy/b-girl is attributed to DJ Kool Herc (you know the one who starting looping break beats for people to dance to) . He gave it to people who would wait through a whole party just for popular breaks to get played, or once he started doing it for breaks to get looped, and then these b-boy/b-girls would "break" to the beat, meaning someone going "off" or crazy.

You come back and tell me which pioneers of hip hop told you it’s cool to call it breakdancing and I’ll tell you which told me it’s not.
 
May 2, 2002
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I'm replying to your statement of white kids in the 80's crap.

White kids in the US in the 80's were never into "breakdancing." Most white kids back then in suburbia thought rap music and "breakdancing" was stupid. B-Boy was more of an east coast term during the origins of it. When it became mainstream in the early 80's, it was labeled "breakdancing" and mostly seen in the inner-cities.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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big D said:
B-Boy was more of an east coast term during the origins of it. When it became mainstream in the early 80's, it was labeled "breakdancing" and mostly seen in the inner-cities.
so you're agreeing that it's only called breakdancing by commercial media and people that don't know what's up then right?



big D said:
I'm replying to your statement of white kids in the 80's crap.

White kids in the US in the 80's were never into "breakdancing." Most white kids back then in suburbia thought rap music and "breakdancing" was stupid.


Wild style = 1982
Flashdance = 1983
Breakin’ = 1984
Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo = 1984
Beatstreet = 1984

White kids in the suburbs never went to the movies to be exposed to this?

Summer Olympics 1984 in LA the closing ceremony featured like 100 b-boy/b-girls.

White kids in the suburbs never watched the Olympics to be exposed to this?

It was featured on TV shows like star search, david letterman, That’s Incredible! ( I know some of you remember that show).

White kids in the suburbs never watched TV to be exposed to this?
 
May 2, 2002
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ColdBlooded said:
so you're agreeing that it's only called breakdancing by commercial media and people that don't know what's up then right??
i do agree there, but in the 80's everyone called it that. Were there not minorities in media at that time to help market and promote?





ColdBlooded said:
Wild style = 1982
Flashdance = 1983
Breakin’ = 1984
Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo = 1984
Beatstreet = 1984

White kids in the suburbs never went to the movies to be exposed to this?

Summer Olympics 1984 in LA the closing ceremony featured like 100 b-boy/b-girls.

White kids in the suburbs never watched the Olympics to be exposed to this?

It was featured on TV shows like star search, david letterman, That’s Incredible! ( I know some of you remember that show).

White kids in the suburbs never watched TV to be exposed to this?
Of course they were exposed, but it wasn't a suburbia thing. I saw every one of those movies at the theater and there wasn't a whole lot of white kids going to see them. It just wasn't their thing. This stuff was marketed toward the inner-city. I would assume most the revenue was generated at theaters in the city. Anyone could pull these stats off the net and act like they knew.

All i am doing is challenging your original statement. White kids in suburbia did not label it breakdancing. I am not sure who did, but the majority of white kids didn't have a clue about this stuff. I lived on the outskirts of Denver attending Denver schools populated half by whites and half by minorities. The suburbs were mostly white. I hung out with kids from both areas and the suburban kids were into their Ozzy Ozbourne and Depeche Mode, rarely breakdancing and rap music. Even the white kids in the Denver schools weren't embracing this stuff until later in the decade. It just wasn't popular in those neighborhoods at that time. Breakdancing was really only seen in the inner-city schools and i use to participate all the time. I went to the breakoffs each year they had them downtown. There just weren't many white kids in that culture at that time. Of course there were some, but most did not embrace it.

It wasn't until the mid to late 80s that rap started circulating through suburbia. By that time, breakdancing was long gone. Breakdancing came in with a bang in the early 80's and was vitually non-existent by '85. Rap, however, took off! Run-DMC's Raising Hell album, IMO, is when rap it really took off in suburbia. Then white kids started discovering the Beastie Boys, NWA, 2 Live-Crew, etc.

I am half-white, half mexican and lived around many whites, and some blacks and latins. The white kids would laugh when you said rap music would be the most popular one day.

I'm telling you man, I experienced the growth of this shit and white kids were not a big part of it until the late eighties and nineties. I was buying vinyl and tapes in the early eighties and bumping my shit loud. Most white kids absolutely hated it! It's not like it is now.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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big D said:
i do agree there, but in the 80's everyone called it that. Were there not minorities in media at that time to help market and promote?
No not everyone called it that, that's the whole point of this discussion. White kids in the suburbs that learned about it through the media and saw it at the olympics and in mcdonalds commercials called it what they were told it was called "breakdancing". It's not and the only people that still call it that are corny people that don't know what's up.

re-read it:

ColdBlooded said:
who calls it break dancing other than white kids in 1980's suburbia?
where did i say white kids came up with the name breakdancing? there is enough information out there now that people shouldn't still be calling it breakdancing.

make another thread if you want to talk about the experiences of white kids with hip hop and how denver does or doesn't fit into things.

if white kids in suburbia were down with hip hop or not isn't the point. the point is they called it breakdancing. doesn't matter if they did it, liked it, hated it, listened to ozzy or whatever. they knew what hip hop was, they knew about this type of dancing and knew it as "breakdancing". and those people who are now "grown up" mostly still call it breakdancing. should anyone be taking hip hop culture lessons from white suburban generation x'ers, probably not. because they probably still do things like call b-boys breakdancers.



Just say you were wrong or misread what I typed or something, it’s ok if you did, cuz you’re stretching this out too far trying to not be wrong.
 
May 2, 2002
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yeah, i did go a little overboard. But i feel your original statement is still incorrect.

ColdBlooded said:
who calls it break dancing other than white kids in 1980's suburbia?
the answer is most everyone, black or white. Most black or white kids in any major US city knew it as breakin or breakdancing. You're generalizing it to white kids calling it that when most everyone did. Unless, you were exposed to it directly in NYC, that is what it was called. And most learned about it through the media. In the early '80s, most people only had their local channels on TV, exposure was definitely media controlled.
The thing is, very few were exposed to the roots of the hip-hop culture and the correct terminolgy.

ColdBlooded said:
should anyone be taking hip hop culture lessons from white suburban generation x'ers, probably not. because they probably still do things like call b-boys breakdancers.
LOL
 
May 2, 2002
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Man...people will argue over anything....

I used to "breakdance" when I was like 5...this was in '82...'83...all the kids at our daycare used to do it. We thought we were the shit back then...I remember spinnin' on my back and this other kid doing that worm thing...don't remember what it was called....

Black/White/Asian/Indian...everyone and their mama called it breakdancing.....

But I don't remember who what why we started doing it...just remember doing it.....