Bob Arum closes deal with CBS/Showtime for Pac-Mosely fight

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Arum just fucked HBO big time for not giving Miguel Cotto the march 13th date (they gave it to Sergio Martinez instead).

What does this mean? Well, for starters the PPV will be on HBO's rival Showtime and CBS (which owns Showtime) will likely have some type of "24/7" promo show leading up to the fight.

Showtime just got it's biggest name since Mike Tyson.

Dan Rafael (4:12 PM)

Arum closed a deal with CBS/Showtime for the Pacquiao-Mosley fight from what two sources have told me.​

Pribs (Bethlehem, PA): Hey Dan, any idea to what extent CBS would be involved if Pac-Mosley lands on Showtime PPV

Dan Rafael (12:08 PM): My understanding is that CBS' role would be to televise a 24/7-type series leading up to the fight, perhaps on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon or in late night. I would also imagine you would see CBS assets like the CBS Morning Show or David Letterman or whatever, have guests on related to promoting the fight, that sort of thing.
 
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Pacquiao-Mosley: Showtime To Pull Away Pay-Per-View

By Rick Reeno

Multiple sources with knowledge of the negotiations have advised BoxingScene.com that it's a very strong possibility that Showtime will snatch away the Manny Pacquiao-Shane Mosley pay-per-view from their network rival, HBO. Pacquiao-Mosley takes place on May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Based on the information given to BoxingScene, Top Rank is currently negotiating the pay-per-view particulars with Showtime and their parent company CBS. The big advantage presented by Showtime is their ability to televise a multi-part series that is equivalent to HBO's 24/7 - on CBS. The vast reach by CBS with 115 million homes, to HBO's 28 million homes, is the 100-pound gorilla in Showtime's favor.

Obviously CBS's big viewership advantage would play a significant role in the marketing of the pay-per-view. It's not an industry secret that Bob Arum, CEO for Top Rank, has been unhappy with some of his recent dealings with HBO.

In the coming months, several of Top Rank's key fighters, including Miguel Cotto, Juan Manuel Lopez, and Brandon Rios, will be appearing on separate Showtime televised dates. Should Showtime close a deal to for the Pacquiao-Mosley pay-per-view, it would be a major coup by the network.
 
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Damn!


I'm gonna miss Liev Shcreiber's voice on the 24/7. :(


I will say though, Showtime's Fight Camp 360 isn't bad at all. I actually enjoyed all of the ones I've seen.
 
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Damn!


I'm gonna miss Liev Shcreiber's voice on the 24/7. :(


I will say though, Showtime's Fight Camp 360 isn't bad at all. I actually enjoyed all of the ones I've seen.
Fight Camp 360 >>>>>>>> 24/7, imo.

24/7 got played out a while ago. Same shit every time.

But this will be on CBS, so we don't even know if it will be the same crew as 360, could be something totally new/different.
 
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he is good. I like how the showtime crew actually call the fights, whereas the HBO crew often spend so much time talking about nonsense and shit that's not even related to what's going on in the ring.

But there is a big picture here. For one, Pacquiao will be on CBS. That's pretty big for the boxing world, even if it's just the "24/7" type series.

Two, HBO is really going to be forced to make better fights/cards. They have to now.

Three, if top rank isn't going to be on HBO, this makes way for a lot of promoters to fill in the gaps, not just golden boy but lot's of others that don't get much love from hbo like gooson, dibella etc. Lots of great fighters can be on HBO who probably wouldn't normally get the chance too before.

On the flipside, look at showtime. They just had really good ratings with Bernard Hopkins vs Pascal, they will get the rematch as well, or at least Hopkins' next fight, they have the super six all year (froch/Johnson, Ward/Abraham, then the winners fight), the bantamweight tournament, and now Pacquiao.

Before HBO used to just destroy showtime in boxing. Now they are going to really have to compete and that's a good thing.
 
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Lampley, Merchant and Kellerman are much better commentators than the 3 at Showtime. That trio at Showtime makes it seem like I am in the middle of a class lecture, just no fire in their commentating. Plus you don't even get Harold's insight. You just get some press row scoring numbers at the bottom of your screen.
 
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Lampley, Merchant and Kellerman are much better commentators than the 3 at Showtime. That trio at Showtime makes it seem like I am in the middle of a class lecture, just no fire in their commentating. You just get some press row scoring numbers at the bottom of your screen.
no fire?






Plus you don't even get Harold's insight.
Harold is probably one of the worst score keepers I've ever seen in boxing, worse then then the judges! I do like his, "Ok Jim!" remarks though
 
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^ Yet they care about Andre Berto and his 433 ticket selling ass? Get real Tony, HBO loses out on this one BIG TIME. Millions of dollars in gate revenue and PPV. Don't get it twisted, hardcore boxing fans don't like this fight, but hardcore boxing fans make up a very small percentage of paying public.

I still expect this fight to do well at the gate, and on PPV.


HBO fucked up for not buying the Cotto fight.
 
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LOL, HBO probably doesn't care about the Pacquiao vs Mosley fight any damn way....
well actually I'm sure they do. With pacquiao gone, as well as Cotto and mayweather most likely not fighting in 2011, who can sell a PPV for HBO? They don't have anyone, really. The best would be maybe Sergio Martinez, but I don't think there are any opponents out there for him to fight that would be PPV worthy. Maybe Marquez against the right opponent.

So with all things considered, HBO could end up having 0-2 PPV's in 2011. Good for us fans, maybe not good for them as far as bringing in money.