Black Youth and The Media

ColdBlooded · Aug 11, 2003

From C-Span2

http://video.c-span.org:8080/ramgen/odrive/15days/e081103_tavisyouth.rm

Arron McGruder and Cornel West

Shit is cool, check it out. Don't have to read or anything, it's video so some of you should be able to handle this better than some longer articles.

Take some time out and watch this.

Vyasadeva · Aug 11, 2003

*yawn*..

Boondocks is unreadable, and now they're turning that one-trick comic strip into a cartoon series? That shit is worse than Family Circle, if that is even possible.

ColdBlooded · Aug 11, 2003

Unreadable how? Too many big words?

Vyasadeva · Aug 11, 2003

No, unreadable as in not funny. It is called a COMIC strip for a reason. That pseudo-political shit belongs on the opinion page.

And after watching that goofball clown yappin on that C-Span clip, I am not surprised that that boring ass strip is produced by him.

Did you see the when the camera showed all those kids with the boring looks on their faces? That shit speaks a million words. They are bored because dude is rambling and going off on a billion tangents and is not sayin a muthafuckin thing.

ColdBlooded · Aug 11, 2003

How is it not political? Many of the other comics in the comic pages in the paper are political too.

nefar559 · Aug 11, 2003

Always nice to hear West lecture...i wasn't awear of that boondocks comics, creator is a smart guy

Snubnoze · Aug 11, 2003

heh, I was just watchin this shit on tv a couple hours ago...

Vyasadeva · Aug 12, 2003

I said the strip is *pseudo* political - meaning he is trying to push a political message but the shit is just hollow. And at the same time he is trying to be "comic" about it in the strip, but personally I think his shit is just unfunny and there really is no political message to be found.

Like he said in the video, "I'm a critic". Any person with a mouth can be a critic, but that does not mean their criticism is worth listening to, or even funny/entertaining.

He's earned his position, and to have a comic in such a large number of newspapers is a great thing. I'm just sayin that after reading his strip for a few years, and now after listening to the cat speak at length, I honestly can say this dude is just not as deep as he would have you believe.

nefar559 · Aug 12, 2003

Vyasadeva said:

I said the strip is *pseudo* political - meaning he is trying to push a political message but the shit is just hollow. And at the same time he is trying to be "comic" about it in the strip, but personally I think his shit is just unfunny and there really is no political message to be found.

Like he said in the video, "I'm a critic". Any person with a mouth can be a critic, but that does not mean their criticism is worth listening to, or even funny/entertaining.

He's earned his position, and to have a comic in such a large number of newspapers is a great thing. I'm just sayin that after reading his strip for a few years, and now after listening to the cat speak at length, I honestly can say this dude is just not as deep as he would have you believe.

damn, i'm goign to check his comic strip, and judge for my self.

nefar559 · Aug 12, 2003

Tenkamenin · Aug 12, 2003

The C-Span show was right on the money, it's refreshing to see a lot of young educated blacks kids talk about the problems of racism in America.

We need more shows like this...

Snubnoze · Aug 14, 2003

nefar559 said:

LOL...

Blackjack 1577 · Aug 15, 2003

Tenkamenin said:

Yea I agree. It's good that a lot of our kids are expressing their views on these issues.

Tenkamenin · Aug 17, 2003

Blackjack 1577 said:

It really depicts African American kids in a different light. People that are not in contact with black people outside of BET, and MTV were probably in for a big shock....:classic:

Not all our kids are uneducated, not all our kids walk around with platinum chains around their neck, not all our kids speak in ebonics.

Vyasadeva · Aug 18, 2003

What a sad day it is when "not walking around in platinum chains and not speaking in ebonics" are supposed reasons for a person to be "shocked" by black youths. There have been many intelligent black youths on MTV and BET, so this C-spam shit aint no "shocker".

I don't think speaking with intelligence or not wearing a platinum chain is shocking, I think it is more shocking that you give such trivial nonsense any amount of importance, and speak as if that is an accomplishment in itself. Talk about lowering the bar.

HERESY · Aug 18, 2003

^^^ JUST CURIOUS WHEN PEOPLE TELL YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP DO THEY TELL YOU IN A KIND WAY OR DO THEY SIMPLY TELL YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP?

IM JUST CURIOUS...

TO BE HONEST NOT TO MANY PEOPLE TELL ME TO SHUT UP BUT WHEN THEY DO ITS IN A KIND WAY (UNLESS WE ARE ONLINE WITH COWARDS WHO WONT SAY SUCH A THING IN PERSON).

I CAN BET A DOLLAR AGAINST A DIME THAT SOMEONE IS GOING TO READ YOUR REPLY AND "POLITELY" TELL YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP...

:h:

PS DONT TAKE IT THE WRONG WAY...

Tenkamenin · Aug 18, 2003

Vyasadeva said:

Actually you making more of my post than it was is nonsense in it's own right. "Importance" is too strong of a word even if the amount of importance you think I showed is tiny.

As far as Bamboozled Entertainment Television goes I remember them airing American Pimp at 5'oclock in the evening. Bamboozled TV also removed the Teen Summitt program, and the last time I breezed through that channel 50 cents P.I.M.P. was playing. But what can you expect out of Black Embarassment Television? Not much

Tenkamenin · Aug 18, 2003

HERESY said:

^^^ JUST CURIOUS WHEN PEOPLE TELL YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP DO THEY TELL YOU IN A KIND WAY OR DO THEY SIMPLY TELL YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP?

IM JUST CURIOUS...

TO BE HONEST NOT TO MANY PEOPLE TELL ME TO SHUT UP BUT WHEN THEY DO ITS IN A KIND WAY (UNLESS WE ARE ONLINE WITH COWARDS WHO WONT SAY SUCH A THING IN PERSON).

I CAN BET A DOLLAR AGAINST A DIME THAT SOMEONE IS GOING TO READ YOUR REPLY AND "POLITELY" TELL YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP...

:h:

PS DONT TAKE IT THE WRONG WAY...

LMAO!!

Vyasadeva · Aug 20, 2003

Oh, so now B.E.T is at fault for showing the public what the public wants? Is it B.E.T's fault that Teen Summit had the lowest ratings on the channel while the minstrel shows like Rap City and Cita's World are the most popular?

It must be B.E.T's fault that the average rap video is nothing but a 3 minute advertisement for overpriced name brands, booty shakin hoes and celebrating ignorance??

Wait, is this coming from someone who is commenting on things not directed at them??

Is that how you sound?

Either way, I honestly can't remember the last time I was told to shut the fuck up, but it was probably not done "politely". I'm sure many people think of saying it, but like you said they are mostly cowards who only express that sentiment once behind their computers. And regardless, I wouldn't give their bitch ass the pleasure.

HERESY · Aug 20, 2003

^^^^ no actually if i was commenting on something not directed at me i would have replied to your posts.

I DIDN'T.

I READ THEM AND SKIPPED OVER THEM.

NOPE. READ THE POST AGAIN PIMPIN. MY REPLY ACTUALLY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR REPLIES TO OTHERS. SORRY. NOW IF I HAD TOLD YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP (IF I NEEDED TO TELL YOU THIS I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS DOING SO) I WOULD BE COMMENTING ON SHIT NOT DIRECTED AT ME....

I DIDNT.

THANKS FOR THE ANSWER.

:h:

PS CHEESEBURGERS AND MILKSHAKES ON ME.

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