Bellicose foreign policy - what gives?

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Anyone support it? I understand this has probably been touched on in other threads, but, is a policy of pre-emptive action against nations that "possibly" possess WMDs prudent foreign policy?

Also, where next? Obviously, no stopping the capitalist juggernaut now. Iran, Syria, DPKR, Pakistan (my personal choice), various nations in Africa, Republic of Georgia, Colombia, Venezuela? The possibilities are endless, especially when the masses have been, for the most part, blinded by an irreproachable flag slathered with 50 brilliant stars.
 
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anathematics said:
Anyone support it? I understand this has probably been touched on in other threads, but, is a policy of pre-emptive action against nations that "possibly" possess WMDs prudent foreign policy?

Also, where next? Obviously, no stopping the capitalist juggernaut now. Iran, Syria, DPKR, Pakistan (my personal choice), various nations in Africa, Republic of Georgia, Colombia, Venezuela? The possibilities are endless, especially when the masses have been, for the most part, blinded by an irreproachable flag slathered with 50 brilliant stars.
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Personally I dont understand how anyone in their right mind could support it, however, I know there are several on this board that do....waits for mcleanhatch to reply

Whos next? Liberia perhaps?

Question for you...Why pakistan and not india?
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
I know there are several on this board that do....waits for mcleanhatch to reply

Whos next? Liberia perhaps?
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i am totally against any action by US forces in Liberia. what ever they do is their business. It has nothing to do with our National Security.

but why is it that now the UN is asking for help and for the US to send troops into Liberia???
 
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Colombia, Venezuela they already there doing dirty work
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1. Columbia: ya, we got no business being there. i would just assume if we are going to spend billions of dollars trying to stop cocaine from entering the country we would have better success by buying more boats and planes and INS officers to patrol our own borders, while at the same time helping keep illegal aliens out and keeping our borders more secure.

2. Venezuela: and as for Venezuela, i feel uneasy with anything left of liberism.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


i am totally against any action by US forces in Liberia. what ever they do is their business. It has nothing to do with our National Security.

but why is it that now the UN is asking for help and for the US to send troops into Liberia???
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If thats your stance, then you loose any chance of justifying the Iraqi war by saying it was a humanitarian act. Now your limited to the WMD excuse, and thats not going to well is it?
 
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1. Columbia: ya, we got no business being there. i would just assume if we are going to spend billions of dollars trying to stop cocaine from entering the country we would have better success by buying more boats and planes and INS officers to patrol our own borders, while at the same time helping keep illegal aliens out and keeping our borders more secure.

2. Venezuela: and as for Venezuela, i feel uneasy with anything left of liberism.
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1. what about education? we spent how much on the war against drugs? who's wining this war?

2. i dont see why you would feel uneasy.
 
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Snubnoze said:
If thats your stance, then you loose any chance of justifying the Iraqi war by saying it was a humanitarian act. Now your limited to the WMD excuse, and thats not going to well is it?
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!. WMD which threatens our national security

2. Humanitarian reason ---- sugar on top of the WMD

the humanitarian reason was just another reason to go in. the main reason was WMD which threatens our national security, sadams being an asshole dictator in a police state doesnt effect our security.
 
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1. we spent how much on the war against drugs? who's wining this war?
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we are obviously not winning the war. 20 years ago the price of 1 kilo of cocaine was nearly $40,000, now it is more pure and runs at around $11,000 if you got a good hook-up, $17,000 for an average hook-up, and $20,000 if your supplier if fuckin you up the ass. so obviously more and cocaine is coming into america. and most of it is coming in from mexico (another reason to tighten up the borders to stop illegal aliens and drugs).

we should spend more of the money used on the war on drugs patroling our own borders. and less trying to clean up a corrupt government in Columbia that is just a waste of money.

nefar559 said:
1. what about education?
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what about education??? education against using drugs???


nefar559 said:
2. i dont see why you would feel uneasy.
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the same way you feel uneasy about our present president and his conservative capitalist right of center views

but mostly because you are a COMMUNIST.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


i am totally against any action by US forces in Liberia. what ever they do is their business. It has nothing to do with our National Security.

but why is it that now the UN is asking for help and for the US to send troops into Liberia???
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Fuck the UN, let them send their own troops out there....
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


1. Columbia: ya, we got no business being there. i would just assume if we are going to spend billions of dollars trying to stop cocaine from entering the country we would have better success by buying more boats and planes and INS officers to patrol our own borders, while at the same time helping keep illegal aliens out and keeping our borders more secure.
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Don't let them fool you.
Our pressence down there has nothing to do with drugs....
 
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!. WMD which threatens our national security
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B.S. NO WMD'S HAVE BEEN FOUND IN IRAQ. EVEN IF THEY WERE FOUND THEY WERE NOT AN INTIMATE THREAT TO AMERICA. AMERICA WAS NOT UNDER ATTACK AND NOTHING WAS FIRED IN THIS DIRECTION. AMERICA IS CLEARLY IN VIOLATION BY INVADING IRAQ.
2. Humanitarian reason ---- sugar on top of the WMD
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B.S. SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAQ SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIFTED A LONG TIME AGO. THOSE SANCTIONS KILLED WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN SADDAM KILLED.
 
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HERESY said:
B.S. NO WMD'S HAVE BEEN FOUND IN IRAQ.
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actual weapons ready to fire no there havent been any found
YET but they will be found sooner or later.

HERESY said:
EVEN IF THEY WERE FOUND THEY WERE NOT AN INTIMATE THREAT TO AMERICA
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and neither is/was Al-Quida right???

HERESY said:
B.S. SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAQ SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIFTED A LONG TIME AGO. THOSE SANCTIONS KILLED WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN SADDAM KILLED.
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no, actually sadam killed those people not the sanctions. if sadam would have done as he had promised to do as part of his surrender and destroyed ALL his WMD's there would have been no sanctions.

HERESY said:
AMERICA IS CLEARLY IN VIOLATION BY INVADING IRAQ.
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clearly we did invade iraq, but i dont see any violation in American Law or our constitution.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:

what about education??? education against using drugs???
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yes education on against using drugs, i dont think you can stop it if there is a huge market for it, US has the largest market for drugs .... LOL ... we're number ONE!!! LOL


Mcleanhatch said:

the same way you feel uneasy about our present president and his conservative capitalist right of center views

but mostly because you are a COMMUNIST.
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Venuzuela is in south america, not inside the US .... please try again.
 
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nefar559 said:
yes education on against using drugs, i dont think you can stop it if there is a huge market for it, US has the largest market for drugs .... LOL ... we're number ONE!!! LOL
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you still have to try and educate young kids about the bad that drugs can cause. we are spending alote on educating kids about the evils and dangers of drugs. just because we are the #1 market doesnt mean we should give in and legalize it. fuck that. that shit kills people and ruins families.

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Venuzuela is in south america, not inside the US .... please try again.
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and when the USSR was our counterpart they put weapons in Cuba (where your idol took over) remember. So south America isnt very far away from us as you try and make it out to be. plus the venuzealan commies are pretty closely associated with castro also
 
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you still have to try and educate young kids about the bad that drugs can cause. we are spending alote on educating kids about the evils and dangers of drugs. just because we are the #1 market doesnt mean we should give in and legalize it. fuck that. that shit kills people and ruins families.
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never said we should make them legal. alcohol also ruins families should we make that illegal? done more damage then any other illegal drug.

Mcleanhatch said:


and when the USSR was our counterpart they put weapons in Cuba (where your idol took over) remember. So south America isnt very far away from us as you try and make it out to be. plus the venuzealan commies are pretty closely associated with castro also
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so what you are saying is that the USSR (which doens't exist) will put weapsons in Venezuela. Or that Cuba will plant its weapons in venezuela? (LOL).... btw last i hear the majority of ppl support Hugo CHavez and so do other latin american countries.

also how did i make south american seem far?
 
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nefar559 said:
so what you are saying is that the USSR (which doens't exist) will put weapsons in Venezuela. Or that Cuba will plant its weapons in venezuela? (LOL)....
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nope not saying that at all.

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btw last i hear the majority of ppl support Hugo CHavez and so do other latin american countries.
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like what other countries Cuba, Brazil, and Argentina. which also happen to be Left of socialist countries to put it lightly.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


nope not saying that at all.
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what are you saying then?

Mcleanhatch said:


like what other countries Cuba, Brazil, and Argentina. which also happen to be Left of socialist countries to put it lightly.
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dumb ass i was thinking the Organization of American States (OAS). stupid fuck ... lol you are a trip.
 
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