Be A Budget Hero

[ColdBlooded]

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/features/budget_hero/

I was able to reduce the national deb from 37.7% of GDP in 2008 to 11% of GDP in 2018
Delayed the budget bust from 2033 to 2070
Shrank the size of government from 20% of GDP in 2008 to 18.5% of GDP in 2018

All the while increasing mass transit, cutting co2 emissions, helping more Americans get health insurance, increased FDA oversight, discouraging driving, and protecting threatened species.


Under my administration Increased Revenue comes from:

• Increased Social Security Taxes on the wealthy
  Adds $536B
  
  
• Brining troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan by 2010
  Saves $391B
  
• End Spending on Missile Defense
  Saves $13B
  
  
• End No Child Left Behind
  Saves $110B
  
  
• Repeal Bush Tax Cuts & Tax Rich
  Adds $2,954B
  
  
• Cap & Limits Greenhouse Gases
  Adds $1,990B
  
  
• Cut Pork Barrel Spending in Half
  Saves $121B
  
  
• Increase Medicare Costs For Wealthy
  Saves $10B
  
  
• Cut Social Security For Wealthy
  Saves $75B

Under my administration New Benefits include:

• Increased Tax Credits for College
  -$139B
  
  
• Increase Tax Exemptions for Kids
  -$178B
  
  
• End Income Taxes for Seniors(who earn less than $50,000/year)
  -$52B
  
  
• Fund University Defense Projects
  -$11B
  
  
• More Help To Needy College Students
  -$41B
  
  
• Expand Funding & Testing K-12
  -$140B
  
  
• For Funding For Arts In Schools
  -$0.53B
  
  
• Educated Disadvantaged Children
  -$124B
  
  
• More After School Learning
  -$11B
  
  
• Fund Research on Clean Energy
  -$150B
  
  
• Increase NSF Grants by 50%
  -$50B
  
  
• Increase EPA Budget 50%
  -$38B
  
  
• Clean Up Nuclear Waste
  -$16B
  
  
• Double Funds For Alternative Energy
  -$17B
  
  
• Double Funds for Wildlife Refuges
  -$5B
  
  
• Protect More Endangered Species
  -$1B
  
  
• Give Prize for Cheaper Car Battery
  -$0.30B
  
  
• Increase Mass Transit Funding
  -$33B
  
  
• Increase Amtrak Funding
  -$2B
  
  
• Fund Anti-Congestion Experiments
  -$10B
  
  
• Double FDA Funding
  -$18B
  
  
• Tighten Product Oversight
  -$1B
  
  
• Strengthen Border Security
  -$5B
  
  
• More Rental Assistance for Poor
  -$4B
  
  
• More Money for Child Care
  -$5B
  
  
• Tax Break for 1st Home Buyers
  -$4B
  
  
• Open Medicare to people 62 to 64
  -$3B
  
  
• Add Money for Kids Health Care
  -$11B
  
  
• Computerize Health Info
  -$70B

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

LOL


Fun game but every solution to a budget problem was essentially "tax the rich"

 

[ColdBlooded]

You can cut spending instead of raising taxes. Cut spending enough you can cut taxes too.

 

[XxtraMannish]

LOL


Fun game but every solution to a budget problem was essentially "tax the rich"

fine with me.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

fine with me.

Boooo this man

 

[ColdBlooded]

Booo people who think they'll become rich.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Booo people who think they'll become rich.

LOL

Whether or not I am or ever become rich doesn't change the fact that requiring specific people to carry more of the societal burden then others is illogical and unreasonable.

Each person should be responsible for an equal portion of the burdern. 1% of people should pay 1% of taxes, not 20% of people paying for 70% or more...

People want all other things equal (rights, liberties, etc) why not equal social financial liabilities?

 

[ColdBlooded]

You control 70% of the wealth you should pay 70% of the taxes not 10%.

You control 1% of the wealth you should pay 1% of the taxes not 40%.

 

[kayvee]

fun little game.

~k.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

You control 70% of the wealth you should pay 70% of the taxes not 10%.

You control 1% of the wealth you should pay 1% of the taxes not 40%.

:knockout::dead::dead:

 

[MRTHECOSE]

You control 70% of the wealth you should pay 70% of the taxes not 10%.

You control 1% of the wealth you should pay 1% of the taxes not 40%.

Sounds like it should be

 

[XxtraMannish]

LOL

Whether or not I am or ever become rich doesn't change the fact that requiring specific people to carry more of the societal burden then others is illogical and unreasonable.

Each person should be responsible for an equal portion of the burdern. 1% of people should pay 1% of taxes, not 20% of people paying for 70% or more...

People want all other things equal (rights, liberties, etc) why not equal social financial liabilities?

so the single mother working for cumbs at Wal Mart should pay the exact same amount in taxes as Bill Gates?

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

so the single mother working for cumbs at Wal Mart should pay the exact same amount in taxes as Bill Gates?

Yes.

Why does she deserve to pay less? Does she use the roads, less than Bill Gates? Does she use police/fire less than Bill Gates? In fact, because she makes less than him, she is probably using more social and government subsidized services so maybe she should pay more?

Don't let your emotions cloud your logical judgement.

Why do we need to know anything about anyone's personal situation to determine their individual inherent responsibilty to our society?

It should be a completely blind system, one person pays what it costs for one person to live in this country.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

You control 70% of the wealth you should pay 70% of the taxes not 10%.

You control 1% of the wealth you should pay 1% of the taxes not 40%.

So I suppose if you were waiting on a corner and caught a cab with three strangers all going to the same location, you guys would open your repsective wallets to determine who had the most most/least money and then decide who should pay what portion of the cost based on that? Rather than just dividing the cost equally?

 

[ColdBlooded]

So I suppose if you were waiting on a corner and caught a cab with three strangers all going to the same location, you guys would open your repsective wallets to determine who had the most most/least money and then decide who should pay what portion of the cost based on that?

If by cabfare you mean tax burden and by wallet you mean wealth and the three strangers were Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Larry Ellison; then yes.

 

[ColdBlooded]

Does she use the roads, less than Bill Gates?

Yes

Does she use police/fire less than Bill Gates?

Undoubtedly

In fact, because she makes less than him, she is probably using more social and government subsidized services so maybe she should pay more?

Except she's not.

Why do we need to know anything about anyone's personal situation to determine their individual inherent responsibilty to our society?

We don't.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Yes




Undoubtedly



Except she's not.



We don't.

We are talking about fictional people here, Bill Gates just being a representation for the wealthy..... Lets try to not take the situation 100% literally. We don't know anything about either of the people.

We could argue about variables all day (what if the "Bill Gates" is a hermit that lives in a cabin in the woods and the wal-mart lady commutes 100 miles a day, calls the police 3 times a week, has two kids in social services, use food stamps and medicare, pours used motor oil down the storm drains, lives in section 8 housing, and litters like its her job) but that defeats the point of the discussion.


If you want to tax people based on their burden, that is fine by me;


However, economic status doesn't determine your burden.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

If by cabfare you mean tax burden and by wallet you mean wealth and the three strangers were Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Larry Ellison; then yes.

It doesn't matter who the strangers are, but if you feel like because they have more money then you they are responsible to pay for your portion of the ride; I do not and will never be able to understand your point of view.

 

[ColdBlooded]

We are talking about fictional people here, Bill Gates just being a representation for the wealthy..... Lets try to not take the situation 100% literally. We don't know anything about either of the people.

I was assuming they were being used as personifications of rich and non-rich. So my answers still apply.

 

[ColdBlooded]

It doesn't matter who the strangers are, but if you feel like because they have more money then you they are responsible to pay for your portion of the ride; I do not and will never be able to understand your point of view.

Of course it matters who they are. That's the point of this whole fucking discussion. Get your metaphors straight and come back and play later.