Athiest's with morals?

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Why?
If there no higher power to answer to,why not rape,rob,and murder?And why respect,praise,or show love to anyone,when in the big scheme of things,their just a breathing being with two eyes,and two ears.
 
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An atheist will act in a "moral" fashion simply because they have
something to gain by doing so. And similarly, most theists act "moral" because they think they are in danger of being sent to hell if they don't.

Ironically, neither of them actually know what it means to act "morally".

One on hand there is "good", on the other hand there is "evil", and then there is the transcendental standard which divides the two.

The dividing factor between "good" and "evil" is itself neither good nor evil, being that it transcends them, and that non-dual factor is God.

The atheist is the most unintelligent class of man, and his life is a perfect example of the absurdity of the material world.
 

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Vyasadeva said:
One on hand there is "good", on the other hand there is "evil", and then there is the transcendental standard which divides the two.

True...for some,but why as an athiest would those two be any different?Why would murder be any different then helping an old lady across the street?

My whole point of this is(which for some probably seems stupid),Like right now,I'm broke.....I'm a Christian who holds certain beliefs,and am going through a tough time trying to dig myself out of a hole,and understand that eventually I'll git through it .I get to thinking....If I had no God,or nobody to answer to,why would'nt I rob a store,or cut off a ladies hand to git her diamond ring?I mean....how can you be an Athiest,and be broke?I would just slap the hell out of an 88 year old lady,and take her purse.......If I got caught,who cares....there's nothing to live for anyway,so just die and end it.
 
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Everyone is aware of the unseen standard which divides "good" from "evil", even atheists.

The atheist simply does not REALIZE that the existence of this unobservable line is evidence for the intangible and transcendental Absolute Truth, God. Yet ironically this very line exists WITHIN themselves and they use it for reference every single day.

That is why I said they are the most unintelligent people. You and I understand that there are "good" and "evil", and that God is the Absolute standard who is superior to both of those things. But the atheist does not know what the difference is between good and evil, he simply has some mental speculation as to what is "good" or "evil", and so he does what he does according to whether his actions will directly benefit him or not.

Even atheists who perform seemingly "altruistic" or "charitable" actions are actually performing them for their own sense gratification. They do it for the popularity it will bring them, or they do it because they personally feel pleasure by performing such actions. They do all these things which SEEM to be "good" or "moral", while remaining completely ignorant of what actually is "moral" or "charitable".

As for ya troubles, I am sorry to hear about it. Keep ya head up and stay in contact with God, He will get you throuh it.
 
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Vyasadeva said:
An atheist will act in a "moral" fashion simply because they have
something to gain by doing so. And similarly, most theists act "moral" because they think they are in danger of being sent to hell if they don't.

Ironically, neither of them actually know what it means to act "morally".

One on hand there is "good", on the other hand there is "evil", and then there is the transcendental standard which divides the two.

The dividing factor between "good" and "evil" is itself neither good nor evil, being that it transcends them, and that non-dual factor is God.

The atheist is the most unintelligent class of man, and his life is a perfect example of the absurdity of the material world.
Thats real cute.

I have read your bullshit posts many times in the past, but I must admit that this post clearly shows you are the biggest jackass that posts on the gathering of minds.

We all know that you are a wannabe hindu, and thats all good, considering your beliefs are as intelligent as a monkey, but the one thing that pisses me off is that you try your hardest to APPEAR intelligent. WE have all witnessed you unintelligent replies to several members of this board, including XianX, HERESY, myself and others. If you believe your going to reincarnate into a cow, so be it. Just dont ever say that atheists are the "most unintelligent class of man." If it wasnt for these ATHESISTS, YOU WOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION VIA ELECTRONIC MESSAGES. THE COMPUTER SCREEN YOU ARE STARING INTO WOULD NOT EXIST.
 
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why does there have to be "God" Vysadeva

i myself believe in something that cannot be contained to a word, but we call it "Tao" it is EVERYTHING...

i have no fear or god or antying like that to make me do right...i just have to try and follow my heart, and the balance of all things...if i don't, it's not like i'll go to hell...i just won't be following my heart, and when that happens you'll never be truly at peace...ya dig?
 
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An atheist act desent (do not rape, steal or murder etc.) because it would be a horrible world to live in.


Just because you do not beleave in God it does not meen that you do not beleave in right or wrong.
 
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I have read your bullshit posts many times in the past, but I must admit that this post clearly shows you are the biggest jackass that posts on the gathering of minds.
WHOA, don't go too far there, I'm sure there are others more deserving to that title...
 
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Vyasadeva said:
An atheist will act in a "moral" fashion simply because they have
something to gain by doing so. And similarly, most theists act "moral" because they think they are in danger of being sent to hell if they don't.

Ironically, neither of them actually know what it means to act "morally".

One on hand there is "good", on the other hand there is "evil", and then there is the transcendental standard which divides the two.

The dividing factor between "good" and "evil" is itself neither good nor evil, being that it transcends them, and that non-dual factor is God.

The atheist is the most unintelligent class of man, and his life is a perfect example of the absurdity of the material world.
i'm no atheist, but i must strongly disagree with you.


Vyasadeva said:
An atheist will act in a "moral" fashion simply because they have
something to gain by doing so. And similarly, most theists act "moral" because they think they are in danger of being sent to hell if they don't.
LMAO........i agree with fiyah on his responce.

to be atheist just rejects religious beleafs, but an atheist
can live by other philosophies, other with are more base on
science than on faith.....u'r describtions fits a psychopath...lol
 
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Im fuckin ashamed of the people in this thread...as an atheist im SERIOUSLY fuckin offended by this...we dont need guidance from a deity to have good morals...and i personally believe the true key to happiness in life is to produce happiness and productivity in others....LOOK OUTSIDE THE BOX..PAST BELIEFS...PAST CLASS OF MEN...THATS THE MATERIAL WORLD...THE REAL WORLD LIES WITHIN US ALL AND HOW WE BALANCE IT MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE AND A DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD...REMEMBER THAT
 
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and by the way...how is it that Vyasadeva can know why atheists do altruistic or charitable things if she/hes never been atheist...so really your just guessing or speculating without absolute proof...and what can that also be called...ASSUMING...and what does that do Vyasadeva? makes an ASS of U and ME....u drag others down with your unintelligence...
 
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An atheist will act in a "moral" fashion simply because they have
something to gain by doing so. And similarly, most theists act "moral" because they think they are in danger of being sent to hell if they don't.

The atheist is the most unintelligent class of man, and his life is a perfect example of the absurdity of the material world.
those are two of the stupidest comments i've ever heard or read in my entire life. and i know people that i thought were the stupidest of the stupid. you are extermely ignorant.




holy shit...i'm speachless.
 
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Re: Re: Athiest's with morals?

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because they'll end up going to jail if they did any of that.

:classic:

SKS
Same goes for most religions...You will either be punished or rewarded for your actions. Heavean and Hell.

Humans are social creatures. Humans by nature do not typically want to rape/murder/rob. Think of apes. Do you see apes running around killing eachother? No.