Astrologers fail to predict proof they are wrong
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It is true that astronomy and astrology were not differentiated until the scientific revolution of the 17th and 18h century, no need to argue over that. Moreover, I am taking a history of science class right now that focuses on the Middle Ages and the Renaissance and what really surprised me is that a lot of the stuff that actually drove science ahead came from magic, astrology and other occult disciplines, certainly not from any science-like activity done with the aims and in the form we are all familiar with
That does not make these practices any more scientific though, they were precursors (whether necessary or not is debatable) for the development of real science; once we have science though, their place must be clear - out of the lives of people
That does not make these practices any more scientific though, they were precursors (whether necessary or not is debatable) for the development of real science; once we have science though, their place must be clear - out of the lives of people
What cracks me up is every new generation of people think they have the answers to the mysteries of life and how the universe works.....LOL
No one really knows shit in the long run. Once you can admit to yourself that life is just an experiance, no matter how signifcant or insignificant, it becomes alot easier to have an open mind and just except that human beings are not the all knowing center of the universe.
Alot of scientists and doctors seem like their sense of curiosity that may have sparked thier passion for understanding has givin way to thier "I'm all knowing" ego. Kind of like some of the people on this board.
"The more you learn, the less you know" - great words to live by.
No one really knows shit in the long run. Once you can admit to yourself that life is just an experiance, no matter how signifcant or insignificant, it becomes alot easier to have an open mind and just except that human beings are not the all knowing center of the universe.
Alot of scientists and doctors seem like their sense of curiosity that may have sparked thier passion for understanding has givin way to thier "I'm all knowing" ego. Kind of like some of the people on this board.
"The more you learn, the less you know" - great words to live by.
I can just as well say that the people who are not scientists use that sort attack against the authority of scientists and doctors (you think you know it all but in reality you don't know shit) to excuse their own ignorance...
A lot has been written on anti-intellectualism and its roots, I suggest that you go and read some of it
The more you learn, the more you know how much you don't know, this is much more true than what you said, you will often hear Nobel laureates say that they don't know (and that nobody knows) something and this pretty much invalidates your claim
A lot has been written on anti-intellectualism and its roots, I suggest that you go and read some of it
The more you learn, the more you know how much you don't know, this is much more true than what you said, you will often hear Nobel laureates say that they don't know (and that nobody knows) something and this pretty much invalidates your claim
No, supernatural things have never been included in science. When they were included in intellectual activity, it was not science. Only after they got removed from it, it became science (although it was called science before that too) 
lol.
please inform yourself before you attack a whole cultures scientific findings.
thanks.
Ok. so lamberto is just schooling you in a very nice way, but i'm tired of people bullshitting and calling stuff "fake" and "bullshitted" just because they are unable to understand the complexity of it.
Go take some college courses in anthropology and astrology, and maybe you could talk some shit on Mayans and their "BS" lol.
i'm just asking for some respect for some amazing mathematicians and their entire culture which was sadly demolished by ignorant people(aka spanish)
please inform yourself before you attack a whole cultures scientific findings.
thanks.
Ok. so lamberto is just schooling you in a very nice way, but i'm tired of people bullshitting and calling stuff "fake" and "bullshitted" just because they are unable to understand the complexity of it.
Go take some college courses in anthropology and astrology, and maybe you could talk some shit on Mayans and their "BS" lol.
i'm just asking for some respect for some amazing mathematicians and their entire culture which was sadly demolished by ignorant people(aka spanish)
Believing in a God may be ridiculous to you and that's fine. But saying that astrology is ridiculous would be to insult a huge and fundamental part of the formation of science. The idea of Gods branched off of studying the stars and sky, but that was only one aspect of astrology, you can't ignore the rest. Or better said, you shouldn't...
i was ASKING. because obviously i dont know much about this. what little i read in a non-anthropology book seems to have been wrong, so im asking the peeps who apparently do know stuff about this for info.
ok so since it apparently wasnt clear i was asking a question...
did the mayans use their astrological/astronomical studies for the same type of BS that people use astrology for today? as in relationships and if you are born under a certain sign you wont get along with people born under signs x,y, and z? or was it completely different?
ok so since it apparently wasnt clear i was asking a question...
did the mayans use their astrological/astronomical studies for the same type of BS that people use astrology for today? as in relationships and if you are born under a certain sign you wont get along with people born under signs x,y, and z? or was it completely different?
your previous posts were very rude, and you sayin "same type of bs" how is it bs? lol.
i have used astrology, NOT THE SHIT IN MAGAZINES or the Daily newspaper, but REAL, descriptive astrology in order to help guide myself in many romantic relationships. Its easy to get wrapped up in certain characteristics of one's personality, but astrology gives a holisitic (wholistic) view, and really the 'annoying' things that i would experience just happened to be part of who that person was, and it was never going to change, so luckily i was able to end it before i wasted all my time, and keep a lot of them as friends that way as well.
I can explain a little how Mayans used astrology/astronomy as a guideline for their life. They believed that everything was a pattern, and this pattern was interpreted from the world around us, especially the skies. They knew that life was a cycle, birth/death/etc. and that being created is just as important as being 'destroyed' as we call it. That helps explain the 2012 apocalyptic prediction. Unfortunately, we are unable to understand what they used their calendars for and to what length, because like i said, the Aztec would ruin many of their temples and artifacts along with the Spanish invasion completely tearing apart Mayan and Aztec culture.
But i am pretty sure they were more focused on greater aspects of the calendar than just the chemistry two people would have together, it helped predict their next farming season, and other aspects of daily, weekly, and yearly life. I know that i'm not fully informed, like many Mayan specialists but that is the sliver that i know of Mayan culture so far.
I don't know what book you were reading, but seriously you should look up some other kinds of books that are written by anthropologists.
If you go to college, then look up anthropology links through your special access to the public library or college library