Anyone watchin Dubya????
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TROLL said:
i love the irony of you mentioning oblermans rating's when your "greatest president in modern history" has the lowest approval rating ever given to a president.. shame you couldnt defend this "great leader" after he got caught in a lie about these 'terrist" 
and focused your response on olberman, instead of what he said.. the republican cheerleader keeps up his routine..
and focused your response on olberman, instead of what he said.. the republican cheerleader keeps up his routine..
BTW....2 minutes of research:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_rating
"The lowest approval rating ever recorded is held by Harry S. Truman, who in February 1952 had an approval rating of 22% for a very limited time"
I swear to God the only research you ever do is on propaganda websites.....
Perhaps a little. Reagan was up there too. But President Bush II has done a lot more for this country than President Clinton or President Bush I did.
But I mean, we can debate, if anyone would like. My specialty is:
Which is better for Poor Minorities:
Conservative politics
or
Liberal politics?
Nobody ever even comes close to winning this debate with me.
But I mean, we can debate, if anyone would like. My specialty is:
Which is better for Poor Minorities:
Conservative politics
or
Liberal politics?
Nobody ever even comes close to winning this debate with me.
you didnt really think i was gonna fall for the strawman arguement did you? are u or are u not gonna defend you "great commander in thief" on being caught in a lie? u cant switch the point i made about him using false information and passing it off as the gospel by zeroing on something i said that had nothing to do with wat i posted..
niether.. they're both for the same agenda... however i fail to see the 'benefit' of cutting taxes for the rich and keeping the minimum wage the same for years... your gonna probably say "but corporations help the american peeple, blah blah blah." when nearly every buisness started is focused on profit, not charity. evangelical's want to stop gay marriage and abortions and lean to the conservative side for a reason..
Friend....if you posted it, then you said it. If you didn't want to say it...why the fuck would you include it in your post? That's your own fault your shit fell apart. It's not Strawman when you claim something without evidence, and end up fucking up.
Just because it's your SECONDARY and not your MAIN argument doesn't mean its ok to LIE. You should tell the truth all the time. It's good for you.
Just because it's your SECONDARY and not your MAIN argument doesn't mean its ok to LIE. You should tell the truth all the time. It's good for you.
And that reason: Strengthening The Family. Which reminds me......What is it that you think poor Blacks and Hispanics need more of right now?
2-Parent Households.....or Abortions?
Child Tax Credits.....or Same-Sex Marriages?
Bilingual Education.....or Sex Education?
Religion.....or Social Darwinism?
Democracy is all about the profits, and improving the chances of passing assets onto the next generation. If we didn't have this possibility, we'd be little more than a Caste society with free speech, but no ability to advance.
2-Parent Households.....or Abortions?
Child Tax Credits.....or Same-Sex Marriages?
Bilingual Education.....or Sex Education?
Religion.....or Social Darwinism?
Democracy is all about the profits, and improving the chances of passing assets onto the next generation. If we didn't have this possibility, we'd be little more than a Caste society with free speech, but no ability to advance.
And before I forget:
Don't really need to watch it to know that:
http://www.factcheck.org/article475.html
Did a better job. And even if it didn't, IYO, then FC always has the links to back it up, and not Guardian/PrisonPlanet style rumour shit either, but from actual, linkable reports.
FactCheck... MediaMatters... you'd think I've been around the block a few times or something.
TROLL said:
for those of you who watched it and thought it sounded like we had so many terrist to worry about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsyVd_Kqp-8&eurl=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsyVd_Kqp-8&eurl=
http://www.factcheck.org/article475.html
Did a better job. And even if it didn't, IYO, then FC always has the links to back it up, and not Guardian/PrisonPlanet style rumour shit either, but from actual, linkable reports.
FactCheck... MediaMatters... you'd think I've been around the block a few times or something.
i do not see why it should be one or the other with any of those.. i think its benefical for a society to find the common ground on all of those.. religion pretty much is the the thing that has a problem with the rest of them (abortions, same-sex marriages, sex ed, etc)
but when resources and profits are limited too the same sets of people over and over it creates a social and economical vacum.. where the generation of the people who werent able to gather any assets in the past, still have to claw viciously to live comfortably..
but when resources and profits are limited too the same sets of people over and over it creates a social and economical vacum.. where the generation of the people who werent able to gather any assets in the past, still have to claw viciously to live comfortably..
Self-Extinction is the conflict with the rest of the things. Namely...Liberals want to stop people from ever being born, and keep what population there is under the impression that CHILDREN = FINANCIAL RUIN.....and Conservatives want to fix the problems of society, starting at this country's core: the Family. Whether you think Religion is some kind of sinister game or otherwise, Religion's main goal has always been to keep families and communities together.
The average American is easily able to amass capital. Period. You can do it right now. You don't have to be on Siccness, posting things, wasting time. You could go out and get a 2nd or 3rd or 4th or 5th job right now. And that right there is the point.
Under this President, our right to amass capital has not been hindered or limited, and has in fact been strengthened. Thus....he is a great President.
The average American is easily able to amass capital. Period. You can do it right now. You don't have to be on Siccness, posting things, wasting time. You could go out and get a 2nd or 3rd or 4th or 5th job right now. And that right there is the point.
Under this President, our right to amass capital has not been hindered or limited, and has in fact been strengthened. Thus....he is a great President.
harry, im not too fond of liberals..im pro-gun and think parents should know if their child has had an abortion.. but in a sense, having a child is an economic strain.. i know from experience.. diapers, formula, cribs, toys, health care etc, dont come cheap when you add them all up.. and if conservatives are concerned with helping families why is it they arent agast over welfare cuts? i work with two straight country bumpkin conservatives who do not beleive bush is a true conservative..
and i thought republicans used to decry government intrusion and expansion.. wat happend? it seems like they only bring it up when its a democrap prez..
actually, a good portion of when i post im at work lol.. i know as compared to many other places we have a pretty easily manuverable job market.. however, its the earnings that are keeping us divided economically.. the minimum wage should be at least the same or above the cost of living, not vice versa..you see, i would be for corporate growth if the worker got a guarentee of benefits and an increased wages.. but thats not whats happening, executives and owners are getting an increased profit with the tax cuts that have been passed, because we can go around in circles with details but if people arent spending and instead having to save it for neccescities like rent, heating, etc.. then our economy is never gonna reach its full potential..
it seems the only people he's been able to unite are extremeists, fellow republicans and democrats against him when it comes to iraq... he took a country to war on lies, i think that alone should be enough to have him snuffed out or impeached.. but im not gonna hold my breath.. the democrats and republicans play good cop bad cop with the nation..
you do know that you are in the minority when it comes to supporting him right?
and i thought republicans used to decry government intrusion and expansion.. wat happend? it seems like they only bring it up when its a democrap prez..
actually, a good portion of when i post im at work lol.. i know as compared to many other places we have a pretty easily manuverable job market.. however, its the earnings that are keeping us divided economically.. the minimum wage should be at least the same or above the cost of living, not vice versa..you see, i would be for corporate growth if the worker got a guarentee of benefits and an increased wages.. but thats not whats happening, executives and owners are getting an increased profit with the tax cuts that have been passed, because we can go around in circles with details but if people arent spending and instead having to save it for neccescities like rent, heating, etc.. then our economy is never gonna reach its full potential..
it seems the only people he's been able to unite are extremeists, fellow republicans and democrats against him when it comes to iraq... he took a country to war on lies, i think that alone should be enough to have him snuffed out or impeached.. but im not gonna hold my breath.. the democrats and republicans play good cop bad cop with the nation..
you do know that you are in the minority when it comes to supporting him right?
At this point, it doesn't even matter. If the entire world agreed that gravity didn't exist, that wouldn't mean if I dropped my pencil it wouldn't land on the ground.
A comedian once said of driving: your job is to go the speed limit and not hit anybody. As long as this president continues to do that, I will support him, the same way I supported Bill Clinton and every other president to date. Why?
In the end, 98% of important things are accomplished at the State and Local level...not the Federal level. Besides, no President will ever be able to get anything major accomplished so long as we have 535 co-Presidents.....unless of course, we Chavez him and all our future leaders.
A comedian once said of driving: your job is to go the speed limit and not hit anybody. As long as this president continues to do that, I will support him, the same way I supported Bill Clinton and every other president to date. Why?
In the end, 98% of important things are accomplished at the State and Local level...not the Federal level. Besides, no President will ever be able to get anything major accomplished so long as we have 535 co-Presidents.....unless of course, we Chavez him and all our future leaders.
^^^
these two statements have nothing of importance to respond to.. one is an extreme exxageration and the other is an attempt to dissect what a comedian said..
but some of the more important sectors can dictate and override state and local policies.. like for instance, medicinal marijuana.. u still here about DEA and FBI busts out here even tho its locally and state approved..
thats funny because last i checked the government served its people as an employer.. this isnt dictatorship so other points of views, opinions and ideas are something a president has to consider..
these two statements have nothing of importance to respond to.. one is an extreme exxageration and the other is an attempt to dissect what a comedian said..
but some of the more important sectors can dictate and override state and local policies.. like for instance, medicinal marijuana.. u still here about DEA and FBI busts out here even tho its locally and state approved..
thats funny because last i checked the government served its people as an employer.. this isnt dictatorship so other points of views, opinions and ideas are something a president has to consider..
I repeat:
Drop pencil--hit ground...regardless of popular opinion. Don't ask me about supporting an unpopular president if you don't want to get bitch-slapped with pure logic.
On road: drive speed limit, don't hit anybody. In office...don't get us invaded and overthrown, and keep the economy moving. You don't impede my capital-amassing, and I won't impede yours.
1 President, not 535. So long as Senators/Reps don't know their place, our President cannot not have his/hers. Try telling a judge that your 3-year jail sentence is just his "opinion" and an "idea", and that you'll "consider" it. You can't handcuff someone, then complain that they suck at playing the piano.
And I don't care much about the 37 conflicts out of 100s of thousands of laws...especially medical marijuana, which deals with about 0.03 percent or less of the population. Talk about something that matters, like Health Care, or Education, or School Lunches, or Bridges, or Auto Emissions.
Talk about Universal Health Care and why it's an idiotic idea to provide it at the Federal Level. Talk about how States--not federal grants--pay for the biggest amount of college tuition, and how moronic it would be to: 1) take away those taxes from the States, 2) Give them to the federal government, 3) Expand federal education grants, etc etc.
It's always the people from crap states that complain about the Federal Government and President.....and people from good states that complain about things that really matter. No matter where you live, if there's a million other motherfuckers living there with you, chances are your life is going to suck. This is because...
- Americans crave individuality.
- Surrounded by a million others, you cannot have that.
- Thus, without it, Americans "feel" miserable, regardless of the reality of their situation.
Don't like it? Move to a smaller town. Move somewhere where the cost of living won't murder your paycheck. Why live somewhere with 150 High Schools to choose from (See: fund) if you only need 4-5?
Drop pencil--hit ground...regardless of popular opinion. Don't ask me about supporting an unpopular president if you don't want to get bitch-slapped with pure logic.
On road: drive speed limit, don't hit anybody. In office...don't get us invaded and overthrown, and keep the economy moving. You don't impede my capital-amassing, and I won't impede yours.
1 President, not 535. So long as Senators/Reps don't know their place, our President cannot not have his/hers. Try telling a judge that your 3-year jail sentence is just his "opinion" and an "idea", and that you'll "consider" it. You can't handcuff someone, then complain that they suck at playing the piano.
And I don't care much about the 37 conflicts out of 100s of thousands of laws...especially medical marijuana, which deals with about 0.03 percent or less of the population. Talk about something that matters, like Health Care, or Education, or School Lunches, or Bridges, or Auto Emissions.
Talk about Universal Health Care and why it's an idiotic idea to provide it at the Federal Level. Talk about how States--not federal grants--pay for the biggest amount of college tuition, and how moronic it would be to: 1) take away those taxes from the States, 2) Give them to the federal government, 3) Expand federal education grants, etc etc.
It's always the people from crap states that complain about the Federal Government and President.....and people from good states that complain about things that really matter. No matter where you live, if there's a million other motherfuckers living there with you, chances are your life is going to suck. This is because...
- Americans crave individuality.
- Surrounded by a million others, you cannot have that.
- Thus, without it, Americans "feel" miserable, regardless of the reality of their situation.
Don't like it? Move to a smaller town. Move somewhere where the cost of living won't murder your paycheck. Why live somewhere with 150 High Schools to choose from (See: fund) if you only need 4-5?