Amazon no longer selling guide for pedophiles

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By DANA WOLLMAN
AP Technology Writer

NEW YORK —
Amazon is no longer selling a self-published guide for pedophiles.

It wasn't clear whether Amazon.com Inc. had pulled the item, or whether the author withdrew it. Amazon did not immediately return messages Thursday, and the author, Phillip R. Greaves II of Pueblo, Colo., declined comment through a representative.

The book, "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct," offers advice to pedophiles on how to make a sexual encounter with a child as safe as possible. It includes first-person descriptions of such encounters, purportedly written from a child's point of view.

The availability of the book calls into question whether Amazon has any procedures - or even an obligation - to vet books before they are sold in its online stores. The title is an electronic book available for Amazon's Kindle e-reader and the company's software for reading Kindle books on mobile phones and computers. Amazon allows authors to submit their own works and shares revenue with them.

Amazon issues guidelines banning certain materials, including those deemed offensive. However, the company doesn't elaborate on what constitutes offensive content, saying simply that it is "probably what you would expect." Amazon also doesn't promise to remove or protect any one category of books.

Once discovered Wednesday, the book triggered outrage from commenters on sites such as Twitter. Some people threatened to boycott the online store until Amazon removed the book. Two petitions on Facebook alone won more than 13,500 supporters.

On Wednesday, child online safety advocacy group Enough is Enough says it isn't surprised that someone would publish such a book, but believes that Amazon should remove it. It says selling the book lends the impression that child abuse is normal.

But Christopher Finan, president of the American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression, said Amazon has the right under the First Amendment to sell any book that is not child pornography or legally obscene. Finan said Greaves' book doesn't amount to either because it does not include illustrations.

This isn't the first time Amazon has sold material that promotes illegal activity. It is currently accepting pre-orders for the hardcover version of "I Am the Market: How to Smuggle Cocaine by the Ton, in Five Easy Lessons" by Luca Rastello.

Nor is it the first time Amazon has come under attack for selling objectionable content in its store. In 2002, the United States Justice Foundation, a conservative group, threatened to sue Amazon for selling "Understanding Loved Boys and Boylovers." That title is still available through Amazon.

In 2009, Amazon stopped selling "RapeLay," a first-person video game in which the protagonist stalks and then rapes a mother and her daughters, after it was widely condemned in the media and by various interest groups.

The author of "The Pedophile's Guide" still has other titles sold through Amazon.

Shares of Amazon, which is based in Seattle, fell $2.96, or 1.7 percent, to close Thursday at $170.37.

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Pueblo's Phillip R. Greaves II Defends His Book for Pedophiles

In a phone interview with CNN, Phillip R. Greaves II of Pueblo explains the philosophy behind his controversial book on pedophiles that was for sale on Amazon.com. "True pedophiles," he says, "love children and would never hurt them…Penetration is out. You can't do that with a child, but kissing and fondling I don't think is that big of a problem."

Greaves, who is at the center of a national firestorm for his book, The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct, claims he has never had sexual contact with a child as an adult, but he did when he was a teenager and was "introduced to oral sex" at the age of seven by an older female. The book has caused outrage across the nation, as well as in Colorado, where Mike Harris, an investigator for the Jefferson County District Attorney's Office, has arrested more than 470 pedophiles. "When it fuels the motive for people on how to approach kids, how to find kids, how to touch kids and sexually abuse them, that's just wrong," Harris tells 9News.

Meanwhile, Lisa Hogan, an attorney with Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck, says the book appears to be covered by the First Amendment, which does not protect obscenity or child pornography but might support written words about them. Regardless, Amazon.com has apparently removed the book in response to the protests, writes UPI.
 
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Amazon Pedophilia Book: Philip R. Greaves II Child Abuse Book – A recently self-published guide on Amazon.com has caused mass amounts of outrage among the retailer’s customers, causing many to proclaim that they will boycott the site until the offending guide is taken down. The book, which is called “The Pedophile’s Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover’s Code of Conduct” has caused upheaval throughout the internet world as many customer’s wonder how on earth Amazon has allowed this book to be sold on their website.

However, Amazon has made no comment to any media outlets defending or denying the guide, but did reply to a customer, saying, “Amazon believes it is censorship not to sell certain books simply because we or others believe their message is objectionable. Amazon does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts, however, we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions.”

Phillip R. Greaves II, the author of the book, has argued that not all pedophiles are understood, and claims that most would not hurt a child willingly. Greaves also said that his goal is to help people understand pedophiles, and to also give them some guidelines under which to operate.
 
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that dude needs shooting in the face


giving pedo's guidlines in which to operate??? i bet that fag has hella pedo shit on his computer or sum type of shit...
 

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This is a good example of why religion and the state should be separated. This is one book I wouldn't mind seeing made illegal with all copies being burned along with anyone who actually purchased a copy.
 
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"Phillip R. Greaves II, the author of the book, has argued that not all pedophiles are understood, and claims that most would not hurt a child willingly.
Greaves also said that his goal is to help people understand pedophiles, and to also give them some guidelines under which to operate."


Only thing I wanna understand is how to work the selected murder weapon that is chosen to off the pedo bastards
 
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fuck that...don't make it illegal...track down and trace every order. that's an easy way to get a shitload of these sick fucks off the street.
 
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This is a good example of why religion and the state should be separated. This is one book I wouldn't mind seeing made illegal with all copies being burned along with anyone who actually purchased a copy.
maybe I'm missing something here but what does this have to do with religion and state? This is just some pervert that deserves all of the bad things that happens to him, religion or not