About what I read in the sewers buy norte music

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Aug 6, 2002
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I was just kind of disturbed in what I read. Im not trying to come off as a history teacher but my VETEs always tell my little homies that they should know what they speak on and what they back up. First I know that people think that real cholos dont go on the internet, but I really do bang I am currenty on house arrest so my old lady is trying to get me into computers. So she brought her computer to my house. So let me explain what I was thaught that disturbed me.

First blood in blood out is very loosely based on LA gangs American Me is a better depiction of what really went down.

Second yes norte and sur did start over shoes but one must be foolish to believe that thats all that caused it. I was told that in prison back in the day inmates click up into racial gangs. Blacks MExicans and whites. This lasted for a little while but then came a time when mexican gang members in prison started causing a rift in their click. Southern California gang members felt that northern california gang members were weaker and were only farmers and couldnt contribute to their cause any more. Mean while northern califa gangsters felt that they could run shit on their own. This is protrayed in American me when that santana asked that scrap from vacaville prison how things were going over there and he tells santana that a new click is being formed. Once word got out about the NUESTRA FAMILIA tension rose and seperation started in california prisions. Two sides were being formed LA EME and NUESTRA FAMILIA shit talking started and like every war there has to be the first shot. It so happened that some eme killed a NUESTRA Familia member and then shit started. Ill write more later
 
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I just wanted to write that because people make it sound like all these deaths and banging are over somebodys shoe it is much bigger than that.

Another thing I get disturbed over is that not only on here but also on the streets people make it sound like there are two southerners The first is a sureno which is from LA or somewhere down there and the Second is a SCRAP a mexican straight from Mexico.

This is not true a sureno is a scrap both are scraps at least according to nortenos. Again I am speaking as a norteno they both get no love. YOU SEE BOTH ME AND OTHERS CHOSE A SIDE WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER AND DID DIRT TO SHOW OUR LOYALTY TO THE SIDE WE CHOSE WHETER SEWER OR NORTE. Thats just a fact of life to us you are one or the other. and what disturbs me is that most people dont know this but it is very true ask real veteranos from any side. back in the day nortenos were viewed as wetbacks and famers. Thats what scraps called us as a diss back in the day thats why we twisted it by using the United Farm Workers bird as a symbol to show that we were farmers. even know veteranos around here are known as FAMEROS.

The final thing that disturbs me is that every one says sur is bigger than norte and that it is because norte is weaker this is not true.
The thing is is that 98% of nortenos are mexican. And as we all know there are alot of mexicans coming up to california to work here. So what happens is that they do not fly here or drive here they work there way up north and on the way up here scraps tell them that nortenos are racist and do not like immagrants that we fell that we are better than them. WHy do they do this so that there cause grows greater and they can get scraps up north.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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pretty good summary but missed a lot of pointz. if you tried to explain thiz situation to anyone outsyde of thiz board it would be a lozt cause, cuz they want to maintain their ignorance, even tho they azk about it. it goez a lot deeper when it comez to tha street soldierz of NF a.k.a. NORTENOZ for you moronz who still dont know wutz up. FC ENE, ive explained many tymez on thiz board, so haz BIG OSO LOC and a few other homeboyz, but it seemz no matter how many tymez it getz pozted, motherfuckerz still dont know wutz up. ima tell you lyke thiz ENE, you can type out tha whole story (itz a damn long one too) but there are still gonna be sum ignorant jackassez talkin shyt....
 
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So what happens is that we get alot of immagrants in the valley that choose to bang sur to show that they are nto weak when in reality they should be on our side sense we were viewed as wet backs. If It were the other way and immagrants were going south then it would be flipped around. If we were canadians shit would be different. For real. The fact of the matter is everyone on this board obviously likes woodies music which is norteno music so everyone should know what norte is about. It isnt about fools fighting over shoes or northerners hating immagrants. Its funny how many immagrants came to my block wearing all blue and hating me to me going and checking them with my boys and explaining that we dont hate them cause they are from mexico but if they claim sur then all that brotherly love dies. So we converted alot of new immagrants into nortenos.

I hope I dont get a gang of replys that dis me and make fun of the shit I wrote. I truly am a norteno from head to toe three generations deep. I now that this sites about music but again its norteno music so expect gangsters to come on here an chop game with you NOt everyone on here are nerds. And if you dis me and think im fake fuck you. Dont fuck with people in the gutter unless you wanna get dirty. Much Love to woodie for promoting NORTE.

RDLY FRESNO COUNTY NORTENO
 
May 13, 2002
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very good post,i see it like this,alot peolpe from mexico that come to the north think that if they wear red then theyre claimin norte,it just so happens that blue is a common color,im black and from the bay,red is my favorite color,when ever i go to l.a. to visit my family im told to change colors, i dont because i dont care what people think and im not scared,however if someone trys to
check me i letem know im from the bay,some still trip but most dont. i kick it with alot of mexicans from both north and south some claim norte some dont i cant trip of of a color let alone my own race its fucked up that people of color have to deal with shit like this, i see alot of people get offended when theyre referred to as a white boy tryin to be hard,they dont understand that people of color must have an attitude, you can have a million dollars and live a respectful life but to most whites your still a nigger or a wet back,when a white person does something deemed as bad hes considerd as a rebel but when its a person of color its expected

my point is this,i dont have a problem with banging,i got alot of boys that are into it,just think about what your doing before you do it, i got two homies that went to the pen in 1983 at the age of 17
they aint out yet.......................
 
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Brown_ese

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ok so a scrap is a mexican outta mexico ..........well homeboy let me tell u this whre i live there is a bunch of nortenos str8 outta mexico and dat do not make dem SCRAPS so before u say a scrap is vato str8 outta mexico think twice cause u might get caught up in da mix......
another thing my tio is a big vet from NUESTRA FAMILIA and it aint true what they all say about this n that they have sum pleitos but not really big pleitos its true dat ENE and EME hate to death but they gotta keep it real at least to a certain point , yes there are killings but they occur mainly outside prison . outthere in da barrios , my tio got got outta tha pinta and went str8 to La killed a eMe and got back to state prison, so is like dat BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT oh yea and by the way 6 of the top ten heads of LA NUESTRA FAMILIA are str8 up MeXicANoZ so dere u go.......
cause i know most nortenos hate on WETBACKS as u punk mudafuckas call dem , but ponganse trucha cause dey might be nortenos just u putos do not know
 
Aug 6, 2002
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again you guys dont read my post right.

1 i did not say that mexicans str8 from mexico are scraps Im saying that people that do not know whats up are always assume that that is what a scrap is. They tell me things like "leave him alone you only hate him cuz he is a wetback"

This is not true I hate him bcuz he chose the opposite side that I chose. Plain and simple. If he was a str8 from mexico and didnt wear all the blue and dirteen (thirteen) bullshit there would be no funk. And second of all it is true what was said above killers dont talk and if you really knew NF then you would know to keep your mouth shut. Loose lips sink ships. Fatal Nytmare was right the only people that understand what I am truely saying even if they dont agree are the real ene's. I am just wasting my time trying to chop it up with everyone on the board about this ene shit. Ill try to stick to music from now on. I wasnt trying to act bad ass its just that in this time of norteno unity this seemed the best way to reach out to ene's all around. And I wont say anynames but some fake ass marks need to quit emailing me talking all this you aint shit shut the fuck up shit cuz dont forget this site is somewhat gang related. The board is red, the label is an ene label, and nortenos bump this music. Dont get mad that your fascinated with this site and bump into mutha fuckas like me. Just like if you go the store on the ugly side of town dont talk shit when you see criminals and gangsters. Im out. Oh and thanks to Fatal Nytmare for letting me know that the points I was stressing were already stressed. stay up ene.

Ill try to make my shit shorter from now on.
 

LOOTER oF tHE NEW CHURCH

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I don't bang but I see your point. You think of "scraps" as ANY gangster who identifies with the number trece, whether they are the real fucking gangsters down here or the illegal immigrant chuntys in blue up there. Bottom line being that in prison they both claim Sureno and are forced to come together despite some SERIOUS differences.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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some interesting shit on here. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders FC, and your only fifteen? (I think that cuz of what you said in your bulldog post) half these motherfuckas SAY their they are 20 and shit, but act 12. My advice is not to try to explain this shit to everyone on here. We'll just end up with a bunch of little kids and immature adults knowing too much about shit they shouldn't know about at all. There are alot of us on here that know whats up so don't let the handful of levas around here ruin it for you. you can still chop it up just ignore them like the rest of us do.

X~Salas East Marketa St~4
 
Aug 4, 2002
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damn, homie! you know how to break it down for the don`t knows! But, what`s wrong nowadayz is alot of chicanos don`t speak spanish! like me. So we almost always call spanish speaking mexicans MOJADOS!!!! And, what makes it so bad for me my dad came from Mexico!!
 

Jose

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Around here theres mexicans who dont speak spanish and then there are ones who do speak spanish. I dont call anyone a MOJADO just because they can speak more than one language. More power to them. I wish I could speak spanish.