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Im wanting to see what everybody has to say in response to this question to ponder. Ill give my opinion later.


What is it about silence(or stillness) that make people uncomfortable, making them fidget and obsess over a thought/action, while becoming easily distractable as they consciously or unconsciously look for any way to fill the silence with thoughts and ideas?
 
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Well, you would have to define "people" in this situation, becuase people living out in the country may have a different answer than that of a person living in an urban setting, or even an entirely different continent for that matter.
 
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i would assume the majority of people but for the sake of the discussion i only mean people who do have such reactions, including most likely everybody on here and everybody we know are related to.

i am ignorant on country folk, but my opinion on this doesnt distinguish between the two. Of course its an opinion tho.
 

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Well this isn't for everyone in the world, but a majority of modern society don't like that silence, because that is when they are alone with their thoughts. Which leads to self reflection, and to a lot of people, the mirror is the scariest thing to look into. At that point, there are no more scapegoats to point fingers at. There is no them just varied reflections of ourselves.
 
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Well this isn't for everyone in the world, but a majority of modern society don't like that silence, because that is when they are alone with their thoughts. Which leads to self reflection, and to a lot of people, the mirror is the scariest thing to look into. At that point, there are no more scapegoats to point fingers at. There is no them just varied reflections of ourselves.
Mirrors can be distorted and warped.
 
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Im wanting to see what everybody has to say in response to this question to ponder. Ill give my opinion later.


What is it about silence(or stillness) that make people uncomfortable, making them fidget and obsess over a thought/action, while becoming easily distractable as they consciously or unconsciously look for any way to fill the silence with thoughts and ideas?
when I read this I was thinking about silence in social settings. But reading other peoples responses sounds like silence when we are alone. Which did you mean?
 
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0R0 summed it up perfectly, which is why you see a vast majority of people "living for the moment" and simply not enjoying life unless they pre-occupy themselves. As someone who has lived in the country and city, I can tell you the country is much more enjoyable. In the country you get a sense of complete freedom and peace, where the city is the opposite.

As far as people being uncomfortable they are most likely nervous or shy. This digital age plays a big role in that, you have people writing short messages to their family on facebook instead of visiting them or at least calling. Peoples communication skills are fucked up, which is why most distant themselves from others in public.
 
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I think that what makes us uncomfortable is recognizing we are conscience. When we are self conscience, we become hyperaware of our movements, and thoughts, since we are not usually hyperaware of ourselves we fidget. When we are focus on something else, our movement and thought naturally flow. I think this is why the best actors become their character, and get wrapped up in it. If they consciously thought about what their character would do at any given moment, their actions would seem artificial.
 
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How long has anyone here has gone without human interaction or stimulation from anything other than your immediate environment (no books, tvs, computers, pens, paper, music, etc, etc)?

I did 7 days sitting in a forest with just a tent, sleeping bag, the clothes on my back, food, and iodine tablets - and it was one of the most intense experiences of my life.
 
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How long has anyone here has gone without human interaction or stimulation from anything other than your immediate environment (no books, tvs, computers, pens, paper, music, etc, etc)?

I did 7 days sitting in a forest with just a tent, sleeping bag, the clothes on my back, food, and iodine tablets - and it was one of the most intense experiences of my life.
can you summarize the various stages you went through as this is a very interesting thing to me and it might be to others as well.
 
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i will be giving my opinion on this in a couple pieces.

One thing that happens when we become silent/still is we become PRESENT.
what happens when we become present? What cannot survive in the present/now moment?
 
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can you summarize the various stages you went through as this is a very interesting thing to me and it might be to others as well.


Yeah I will try my best. This was about 10 years ago now so the memories are not as vivid, but I can summarize to the best of my recollection (I also did not really have a choice in doing this so I am guessing my response would be somewhat different than someone who decided to do this on their own)

The process started primarily with anxiety and stress leading up to the begining and on through the first few hours of solitude. Once the initial anxiety wore off, it was replaced with a growing sense of fear. The fear initially was what I would call unfocused, whereas it had no point or origin but was more just a general sense a fear. I was afraid of being alone, afraid of being hurt, afraid dying, etc. As the fear grew stronger it came with a feeling of oppression.

After a few hours the fear began to become more focused primarily on the fear of not being able to withstand being alone for the duration. This fear was overwhelming and what I would call neurotic similar to being faced with a an obstacle you don't believe you can overcome. The thought "I can't do this" keep repeating in my head, but I didn't have much of a choice so I was stuck between what I considered to be two unmovable forces (which is why it seemed to have a neurotic element to it).

The fear and sense of being overwhelmed sent me into what I would describe as a mini bought of depression - for the entire 2nd day.

The second day was mostly filled with alternating sessions of laying down after being overwhelmed by the depression, and then pacing around as I was overwhelmed by the anxiety.

By the third day, the intensity of the fear, anxiety, depression had subsided and I had transitioned into more of a bored state as I relaxed and began to become more aware of the absence of usual stimulus.

The boredom was the final barrier to opening a very unusual and new state of introspection, which began around the end of the 4th day.

The introspection period was very strange to me because it came completely independently. In other words, I wasn't thinking to myself "well since you are here alone you might as well reflect on your life". It came totally on its own with no conscious thought from me and I could not have stopped it if I wanted.

The introspection was very intense and came with vivid daydreams of past memories that were almost like hallucinations with their clarity. I was remembering things that I had no recollection of ever occurring or ever being memories. The memories were very intense and brought extreme levels of happiness or sadness depending on their nature. I was laughing and crying to myself and thinking nothing of it. The memories also had a introspective quality to them and I was able to understand a lot of things about myself and my relationships with other people that I had never realized before.

By the end of the time I had an extreme sense of happiness and I felt a strong impulse to act on a lot of the conclusions I had drawn about myself and other people during the times of unplanned self reflections. I remember getting home and immediately calling a bunch of different people to tell them about the conclusions I had drawn.
 
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sounds similar to goin to jail for me^

now that im out its like my experience in enjoying life has been peverted by my lack of humility.

you know when u listen to an amazing song and u abuse your privilege by listenin to it ALL the time?
then eventually u start listenin to it, and for some reason you arent really "Present" to enjoy its beauty ( manifest in the present moment).
in fact, you stop LISTENING to it as a whole.

its the same with this thing we call life.
 
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@ MR.NICE GUY, looking back on it now, would you say you also experienced various aspects of the Kubler-Ross model?


You know I thought about that very question as I was thinking about how to respond to SeriouslyThug's question.

I would definitely say there were some strong parallels to the model in general and specifically 3 out of the 5 stages - maybe even 4.

I think the initial denial was largely overshadowed by my fear (but I definitely remember instances of wondering if the whole thing would be a joke) and I don't remember much of a bargaining stage, but I definitely experienced;

Anger
Depression
Acceptance

and in the order predicted by the model.