A Swift Boat Liar Graph
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actually kerry benefits from it because this covers the fact that he has nothing to run on. no plans for anything, just "better than bush" i would have went to the war but i would handle it better, i would redeploy troops but at a different time, thats what you hear from him. he has no real change planned and to see all you antibush guys supporting him, as if he's any less corrupt and sold out is absolutely ridiculous. at least 206 is consistent in these areas.
first off i dont harp on anti kerry truths, and second i do want to see a conservative in office over a liberal. so what the fuck is your point? i have completely ignored all this swift boat shit and if anything would defend john kerry. i dont think theres enough evidence to say he wasnt an honorable soldier. especially when he has more military service than all of bush's top level cabinet members combined minus colin powell. you speak out of your ass once again moron.
phil Knight
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i wouldnt call bush "honest". but unless you want a socialist/communist government thats all we got.
phil Knight
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. AS BIG AN IDIOT AS YOU THINK BUSH IS, KERRY AINT GOT IT. HES A FUCKING YES MAN BLUEBLOOD YALE BOY JUST LIKE BUSH
phil Knight
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kerry wont do anything for the working class but make them more dependent on government.
phil Knight
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kerry is EVEN STILL worse than bush. simply for the fact he gets up there and acts like he isnt as underhanded, sheisty and priveleged as bush.
Today, 08:22 AM #4 phil Knight
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he has no real change planned and to see all you antibush guys supporting him, as if he's any less corrupt and sold out is absolutely ridiculous
My point is, you're another phony Republican O'Reilly independant, and you talk about "they're both corrupt, they both suck", but in the back of your mind, you're really a Bush supporter. So don't predict doom and gloom about how this whole election sucks and all choices are crap, etc., when you really have a clear hopeful in mind.
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i wouldnt call bush "honest". but unless you want a socialist/communist government thats all we got.
phil Knight
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. AS BIG AN IDIOT AS YOU THINK BUSH IS, KERRY AINT GOT IT. HES A FUCKING YES MAN BLUEBLOOD YALE BOY JUST LIKE BUSH
phil Knight
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kerry wont do anything for the working class but make them more dependent on government.
phil Knight
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kerry is EVEN STILL worse than bush. simply for the fact he gets up there and acts like he isnt as underhanded, sheisty and priveleged as bush.
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he has no real change planned and to see all you antibush guys supporting him, as if he's any less corrupt and sold out is absolutely ridiculous
My point is, you're another phony Republican O'Reilly independant, and you talk about "they're both corrupt, they both suck", but in the back of your mind, you're really a Bush supporter. So don't predict doom and gloom about how this whole election sucks and all choices are crap, etc., when you really have a clear hopeful in mind.
Kerry gives over 10 speeches a day and has scence the DNC. most of them are over 30 mins long.
If you honestly think that Kerry isnt in all these speeches talking about health care, the econmy, or any other domestic issue than your fuckin crazy.
OF course hes talking about them. He has been scence day 1. he does over 10 times a day.
now go turn on your TV, RADIO, or open up your news paper. YOU AINT GONNA SEE IT THEIR.
ALL THESE MEDIA OUTLETS ARE COVERING IS THIS SMEAR SHIT.
want proof.
go watch ANY POLITICAL SHOW, or go watch ANY ELECTION 2004 COVERAGE...... its all leading with the swift boat- vietnam story.................ALL OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS......
go listen to the radio.......again ANY MAINSTREAM POLITICAL OR ELECTION 2004 PROGRAM.......and its all leading and primarly foucing on the swift boat - vietnam story.
go open your news paper.....ITS ALL LEADING WITH AND PRIMARLY COVERING THIS SWIFT BOAT- VIETNEM SHIT...................
now exsplaine to me how a person running for president gets his message out to the public without TV, RADIO, AND THE PRINTED PRESS.
THEY DONT.......
THE MEDIA HAS MADE THEIR CHOOISE ON WHAT THEY WANT TO COVER. AND THEYVE CHOOSE THE TRASH SIDE OF POLITICS ONCE AGAIN
IS THE SWIFT BOAT AD A STORY WORTHY OF REPORTING ON?????????????/ OF COURSE IT IS... ILL NEVER SAY IT ISNT...
BUT IS IT A STORY WORTH COVERING TO THE POINT THAT NO OTHER ISSUES GETS AIRTIME???????????? FUCK NO...........BUT THATS WHATS HAPPENING.
and im dont even really like kerry. i hate any liberal that moves to the center so they apper as a decaf version of a consertive.
but theirs a truth that i think you and millions of others have missed.
if you turn on your tv, radio, or newspaper and all you hear is swift boat this and vietnam that....how the fuck can you then say " kerrry aint got shit to run on cause thats all hes talking about"? thats bullshit man. the truth is thats all their fuckin showing you.
again, kerry gives over 10 speeches a day most over 30 mins long.......you honestly belive hes not talking about other issues your carzy. of course he is but due to the medias thirst for a juicy headline thus leading to more ad space or commercial time sold. they aint gonna report that shit cause it dont sell papers or time slots to buick.
SEE bush has and advantage as president.
if he calls a press confrence its gonna be broadcasted live on every cable news channel. and its gonna lead in every network news program that night.
if rice , cheney,or rumsfeild gives a speech its gonna be covered on the news. and so is the subject matter they disscussed.
theirs a million ways a president can get his message out because HES THE FUCKIN PRESIDENT WHEN HE TALKS PEOPLE LISTEN.....ITS FUCKIN NEWS......and he has 4-5 people that get coverage when they speak for him cause their a SENIOR WHITE HOUSE STAFFER OR PERSONAL AID TO THE PRESIDENT.
thats why its so hard to beat a sitting president.
and it should be news so dont get me twisted. when a president talks people need to listen. the world dont stop running just because its a election year.
but if you think they dont relize this advantage and use it then again your a moron.
the bush campaine stragety is to take Kerrys war record and servise time and run it threw the mud.
this makes kerry look like a piss poor war time leader ( HOT ISSUE #1) .....takes the fouces off the fact that while kerry was in the jungle being an shity soldier bush was in texas ( HOT ISSUE #2 )
and keeps teh voters minds of domestic issues such as national debt, health care, education, the econmy. ( HOT ISSUE # 3-4-5-6 )
so who wins here
????????????????
BUSH WINS.........AND THE VOTERS GET THE SHAFT.
id love to get my hands on the origanal amount the swift boat vets paid to have the ad ran in the battle ground states. and then see a figure that says how much they would have had to pay for all this free press.
SHIT THE NEW AD THEY DIDNT EVEN PAY A DIME TO HAVE RAN THEY JUST RECORDED IT , EDITED IT AND GAVE IT TO THE MEDIA OUTLETS...............AND IT WILL GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF AD TIME.......kerry has to spend another 18 million to get his ad countering theirs ran in the states where its done the most damage. .......BUT IT WONT WORK BECAUSE YOU CANT BEAT FREE.
thats my point....ive rambled long enougth......any of you that think kerry aint talking about other issues are pawns. of course he is but that shit donr sell so that shit aint getting covered.....
WHO WINS?.... BUSH....WHO LOSES?,,,,,, US
http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php
The purpose of this photo is to correct the misleading use of our images -- against our will -- to further John Kerry's campaign.
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This photograph of John Kerry and 19 other Coastal Division 11 Swift boat officers was taken at Ton Son Nhut Air Base on January 22, 1969, immediately following a meeting with General Abrams and Admiral Zumwalt.
The Kerry campaign featured the photograph in an advertisement released in May titled Lifetime. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has contacted surviving members of this group to find out how many actually support John Kerry, and discovered that of 19 Swift boat skippers pictured other than Kerry, 12 consider him unfit, 4 are neutral, two have died, and 1 is working with the Kerry campaign. Four other officers were not present for the photo session; all oppose Kerry.
Only 1 of John Kerry's 23 fellow Swift boat commanders from Coastal Division 11 supports his candidacy today.
Click here for a morphing video of the "before" and "after" images above.
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Here's a breakdown of the Swift boat officers in the photo showing where they stand:
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On June 1, 2004, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth sent a cease and desist letter to John Kerry for President, Inc. on behalf of 11 officers shown in the photograph, pointing out that using their images in a campaign advertisement "wrongfully and incorrectly suggests their present endorsement of his candidacy."
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The purpose of this photo is to correct the misleading use of our images -- against our will -- to further John Kerry's campaign.
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This photograph of John Kerry and 19 other Coastal Division 11 Swift boat officers was taken at Ton Son Nhut Air Base on January 22, 1969, immediately following a meeting with General Abrams and Admiral Zumwalt.
The Kerry campaign featured the photograph in an advertisement released in May titled Lifetime. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has contacted surviving members of this group to find out how many actually support John Kerry, and discovered that of 19 Swift boat skippers pictured other than Kerry, 12 consider him unfit, 4 are neutral, two have died, and 1 is working with the Kerry campaign. Four other officers were not present for the photo session; all oppose Kerry.
Only 1 of John Kerry's 23 fellow Swift boat commanders from Coastal Division 11 supports his candidacy today.
Click here for a morphing video of the "before" and "after" images above.
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Here's a breakdown of the Swift boat officers in the photo showing where they stand:
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On June 1, 2004, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth sent a cease and desist letter to John Kerry for President, Inc. on behalf of 11 officers shown in the photograph, pointing out that using their images in a campaign advertisement "wrongfully and incorrectly suggests their present endorsement of his candidacy."
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no shit i have a clear hopeful in mind. you just searched thru umpteen posts to prove nothing!! you made an attempt to discredit me once again by doing nothing but stating the facts. neither of them really care about the country but hey, at least bush doesnt want to take more money to be wasted by the government.
really. if you dont think our governtment wastes A PREPOSTEROUS amount of money, then YOURE A MORON.
second off, if you think raising taxes is going to help fill the void of the wasted money. yet again. YOURE A FUCKING MORON. keep living in white devil world where your posts prove absolutely nothing but how much you crave being right about everything. your pomposity is just as bad as hannity's or oreilly's or mine for that matter. theres a pile of stones right next to you. start chuckin em.
really. if you dont think our governtment wastes A PREPOSTEROUS amount of money, then YOURE A MORON.
second off, if you think raising taxes is going to help fill the void of the wasted money. yet again. YOURE A FUCKING MORON. keep living in white devil world where your posts prove absolutely nothing but how much you crave being right about everything. your pomposity is just as bad as hannity's or oreilly's or mine for that matter. theres a pile of stones right next to you. start chuckin em.
come on your supposed to be an OPEN-MINDED LIBERAL right??? dont you want to get both sides of the story. and what better place to get the other sides story but straight from the horses mouth, i mean hey THEY WERE THERE!!!
how are they being paid??? wheres the proof??? or you just talking out of your ass AGAIN!!!
how are they being paid??? wheres the proof??? or you just talking out of your ass AGAIN!!!
I guess the connections found mean nothing. You really are blind if you think Bush or someone affiliated with Bush had NOTHING to do with this ad.
Why else would they change their mind about Kerry? What reason would they have to say one thing years ago and now have a different story? Why am I asking you questions YOU NEVER FUCKING ANSWER THEM.
LMAO @ Bob Dole
"I just wanted him to get off Bush's back and have his people get off Bush's back," Dole said.
^^^ Give me a fucking break. Kerry is fuckin defending himself. Thats all he can do now because of all the bullshit press. Great tactic by the Bush campaign though.
God this is all a fucking joke.
Why else would they change their mind about Kerry? What reason would they have to say one thing years ago and now have a different story? Why am I asking you questions YOU NEVER FUCKING ANSWER THEM.
LMAO @ Bob Dole
"I just wanted him to get off Bush's back and have his people get off Bush's back," Dole said.
^^^ Give me a fucking break. Kerry is fuckin defending himself. Thats all he can do now because of all the bullshit press. Great tactic by the Bush campaign though.
God this is all a fucking joke.