5%ers.... WTF

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From what i know....

Its a sect from muslim(i gould be wrong) and they say god is in man to the point they say instead of brother they say "sup god". Wu-tang is all into it. But umm i dont know much.
 

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Nation of the Gods and Earths. They believe in a more Do it yourself type of thought....or that man is god or has the power to control ones destiny.It is part of the muslim religon. I used to study it, but I am to liberal for the womens role in that religion.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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wow, people listen to hip hop and still don't know bout 5%ers?

The Nation of Gods and Earths, commonly known as the Five Percent Nation or the Five Percenters are an African-American social/religious movement founded in Harlem in the late 1960s by Clarence 13X. Spawned from a combination of teachings of by Malcolm X and The Nation of Islam, the 5 Percent Nation was organized for the African-American youth seeking freedom, justice, and equality from economic, political, social, and religious injustices in the United States and the world.

The group was founded by Clarence 13X (Clarence Smith), who is referred to by Five Percenters as "Father Allah". He is given this term because he originated the teachings which form the foundations of the Five Percenter movement. Clarence 13X was originally a member in the Nation of Islam, attending the NOI Temple in Harlem where Malcolm X was a minister. Following his questioning about the divinity of Wallace Fard Muhammad Clarence was disciplined by the group, and eventually detached himself from affiliation. This schism led to Clarence teaching his own interpretation of NOI beliefs. He found great success in the streets of Harlem, and won many people to his movement.

The schism between Clarence and the NOI led to numerous violent confrontations. The murder of Clarence in 1969 remains unsolved, but has been blamed on a number of different culprits ranging from the FBI to the New York Police Department to the Nation of Islam. The murder was a blow to the movement, but Clarence’s earliest disciples, a group of 9 disciples who were called the “First 9 Born”, carried on the teachings in which a leading role was assumed by an individual named “Justice”.

In the years to follow, the Five Percenters gained a reputation of being an unruly group of Black teenage thugs, renowned for direct actions, such as muggings and bank robberies. Known to many the Five Percent Nation of Islam was said to be a mysterious group who were prepared to die, fighting white supremacy. The Five Percent Nation of Islam also built a headquarters located in Harlem which is known as “Allah School in Mecca.”

From the late 1980s till today, Five Percenters are found big among the East Coast/West Coast/Midwest cities of New York City, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Chicago, and Los Angeles, especially among the Hip Hop scene. Hip Hop artists such as Rakim, Wu Tang Clan, Brand Nubian, Nas, AZ, Nine, etc sparked a revolution in the inner cities of New York City with the theology of the “Gods & Earths”, using the language of Supreme Mathematics, and the Supreme Alphabet to reconstruct the inner city youth of the projects, teaching them that the original Black Man is god and through the inner esoteric powers of the “Gods & Earths”, the youth can transform and possess their true potential.

The Five Percent Nation of the Gods and the Earths is a social movement, often classified as a religious sect. The Nation believes that the black man (this includes all individuals on Earth classified racially as "black", not just in the United States) is God, that black people, and theoretically the entire world population, are divided into three groups:

  • The 85%, which are the humble masses, deaf, dumb, and blind to all truth about the world. These people need guidance.
  • The 10%. This group understands much of the truth but uses it to their advantage to keep the 85% under their control through religion, politics, entertainment, economics and other forms of human activities.
  • The 5% are those who have complete knowledge of the truth about the foundations of mankind and seek to liberate the 85%.

Teachings

Doctrinally, the difference between the Nation of Islam and the Five Percenters is more of a matter of degree than principle, plunging deeper into the “black knowledge” than the average Nation of Islam member. Due to the mastery of language exhibited by many Five Percenters, they are often referred to as "wizards" or "scientists" by Nation of Islam members.

The academic advancement of a Five Percent member is based on his/her knowledge and mastery of various “lessons” as well as the Supreme Alphabet, and the Supreme Mathematics, teachings that in turn influenced the evolution of the Nation of Islam creed. Nation of Islam members view the Five Percenters as philosophy oriented, although many Nation of Islam members look down upon the Five Percenters as immature. Five Percenters would tend to view themselves as scientists and claim no interest in religion.

The basic teachings of the Nation of Islam are as follows:

  • That black people are the original people of the planet Earth.
  • That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.
  • That the science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to understanding man's relationship to the universe.
  • That mathematics is our true culture and that it is the science of every thing in life.
  • That education should be fashioned to enable us to be self sufficient as a people.
  • That each individual should teach another individual according to their knowledge.
  • That the black man is god and his proper name is Allah.
  • That our children are our link to the future and they must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected and educated.
  • That the unified black family is the vital building block of the nation.

Five Percent Nation philosophies versus Mainstream Islam

While the Five Percent Nation of the Gods and Earths use many terms similar to that used by Orthodox Muslims (such as Allahu Akbar, etc), and have individuals among them who refer to themselves as Muslims, the Five Percent and Orthodox Muslims have very little in common. While Five Percent members do not eat pork, they do not necessarily follow traditional Islamic teachings based on the laws written in the Holy Qur'an or Muhammad’s Sunnah, such as prescribed clothing, prayer rituals, not smoking, not drinking and other requirements. The Five Percent rebuttal to this has been that they are not a religious movement and that as God (themselves) the only one they must submit to is "Self," which in Islam would be considered a blasphemous concept and a violation of the most basic Islamic tenets, as it is considered a grave sin to associate any human being or object with God. As such, the Five Percent Nation, like the Nation of Islam, cannot in any way be considered Islamic.

The main beliefs of the Five Percent Nation are similar to that of the Nation of Islam, and for that reason, they are not viewed as Muslims by Orthodox Muslims.

links for you

Nation of Gods and Earths

The founding of the Nation of Gods and Earths

Details on teachings of Five Percenters
 
Apr 25, 2002
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In theory you can be white and be part of the 5%

But you'd also have to know . . . White people were created from Africans about 6000 years ago by Yacub , a Black scientist, "born out of the 30 per cent dissatisfied,". He spent six hundred years using a selective breeding process which used a recessive gene in the Black race to create the biological mutated Caucasians. Yacub created whites as a "race of devils" to rule earth for a limited period.

Interestingly, the ancient Egyptians recorded the Tamahu, which means created white people. Egyptian writings also refer to whites as Typhonians or People of Seth, both meaning "the devils."

After these "white devils" were first released into the Black community of the Near East 6000 years ago, they caused sever strife, thus the Africans rounded them up, stripped them of everything and exiled them to the caves and hills of the Caucasus Mountains. This explains the sudden appearance of white people in this region. To prevent their escaping Africans installed a series of guarded walls blocking all exits along that area from one sea to the other! - thus "roping" them off (hence the word Europe). These walls have been
witnessed and recorded by many European writers. Thus, totally cut off from civilization, the whites degenerated into uncivilized, nomadic savages. They remained this way for 2000 years until 'Allah mercifully sent an Egyptian priest named Musa or Moses to civilize them.' This explains the otherwise unknown reason why suddenly about 2000 B.C., vast hordes of these white barbarians left the Caucasus region and stormed all the (Black) centers of civilizations throughout Mesopotamia, the Near East, Africa and India, destroying and usurping them. Thus, the whiteman's arrival signaled destruction for all these civilizations and the beginning of the whiteman's rise to power.
 
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^^^ Well, if that's the case, I want some reparations!!!

Here's the 5% explanation I found in a 'Wu-Bible', this is where I first learned a little deeper what a 5% was... I knew a few who practiced this, but explained it as 'God Body' and said he was 5% God. He also had a fake Christian Cross Necklace with a fake price tag on it of $1200... he was much about image, when he could have very well gone far simply on his talents.

Anyway here's the 'Wu-Bible' explanation...
"5% Nation - An Islamic group which started as an offshoot of the Nation Of Islam. They teach that any large group of people, and more specifically, the African American nation, can be divided into three groups, the 85% = basically the ignorant masses which need to be led, the 5% = the people with true knowledge of self whose job it is to lead the masses and fight against the 10%, the 10% = people who have partial knowledge of self and use it to gain power and wealth by exploiting the 85%, also referred to as "bloodsuckers of the poor". The chosen percentages are what they feel that the percentages are within the black community. These numbers are neither universal (all though these groups do exist within any large group) nor unchangeable. "
 
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Fridge said:
^^^ Well, if that's the case, I want some reparations!!!

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damn white ppl, j/k.

But mayn, I don't get them 5 percenters cuz they supposed to be all enlightened and trynna free the 85% from their bonds and shit then why they still slang drugs and kill folks and shiet? I stay in b.more right now and it's a couple of em 5% around this way and that's all they do is hustle and kill folks everyday.