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One important thing to mention that not many people discuss... There's hardly any INNOVATORS out here & the society today is inherited by too damn many EMULATORS... People are actually afraid & hesitant to try anything new & concoct a whole new formula or element that has almost never been done or established in this genre... We're missing the new post-modern innovators & the ones who are considered way ahead of their time...... Keep that in mind; Ive been telling that to anyone out in my town who are tryin to make it in the music, film, art industry... Be an innovator & not a carbon-copy & build your own new extraordinary world you'll stand out more & out last everyone else...... If people can create something new & innovative in the 19th century or the 80's; why not today besides 2012 is near so its perfect now for those who are tryin to create somethin new & once they introduce their brand new element of music to the world; the over-conventional cookie-cutter generic average-joe sounding bullshit will all be over......
Why??? All cuz the general public & society are wussies!! Im mean generic run-of-the-mill average joes all worried about tryin to fit in with the wackest crowd just by following fads that leads to clones, carbon-copies, & namebrand whores lol!! I tend to only roll with the innovators......
READ ANYTHING BY OSHO!!!!!! I would recommend him......
READ ANYTHING BY OSHO!!!!!! I would recommend him......
Anyone can make a song in a closet now so of course the quality goes wayyy down. I remember going in the studio and busting back in the day and it was a shock when people found out you had a CD.. you had to put work in to have a CD out. Now I can make a song in two minutes on an iphone. I respect the people making it in the industry who aren't ridiculous gimics like Lil B because it's never been harder to make it.
DAMN THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE UP ON OSHO!
FUCKIN US GOV TOOK HIM OUT. BUT HE WAS THE TRUTH
PRETTY MUCH ALL MUSIC HAS REVERTED TO THE POP FORMULA.
EVERYBODY SEEMS TO LIVE AND DIE BY THE SAME BLUEPRINTS THAT ARE COMMON TO COMMERCIAL SUCCESS.
AT THIS POINT NOBODY MAKES MUSIC OUTTA LOVE FOR IT.
THE INTENTIONS ARE WRONG. ITS FUNNY CAUSE ,HIP HOPS STRENGTH WAS ITS DIVERSITY AND RAWNESS. BUT IT ENDED UP BEING ITS DOWNFALL AS WELL.
ONCE THE MONEY STARTED BEING THE MAIN MOTIVATION TO START A RAPPING CAREER. THAT WAS THE END OF THE GAME. I TELL PEOPLE NOW AND DAYS,THAT WANNA HAVE A RECORDING CAREER. TO BE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL. CAUSE YOU GOTTA BETTER CHANCE HITTIN THE LOTTERY THAN MAKING REAL MONEY BEING A RECORDING ARTIST.
FUCKIN US GOV TOOK HIM OUT. BUT HE WAS THE TRUTH
PRETTY MUCH ALL MUSIC HAS REVERTED TO THE POP FORMULA.
EVERYBODY SEEMS TO LIVE AND DIE BY THE SAME BLUEPRINTS THAT ARE COMMON TO COMMERCIAL SUCCESS.
AT THIS POINT NOBODY MAKES MUSIC OUTTA LOVE FOR IT.
THE INTENTIONS ARE WRONG. ITS FUNNY CAUSE ,HIP HOPS STRENGTH WAS ITS DIVERSITY AND RAWNESS. BUT IT ENDED UP BEING ITS DOWNFALL AS WELL.
ONCE THE MONEY STARTED BEING THE MAIN MOTIVATION TO START A RAPPING CAREER. THAT WAS THE END OF THE GAME. I TELL PEOPLE NOW AND DAYS,THAT WANNA HAVE A RECORDING CAREER. TO BE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL. CAUSE YOU GOTTA BETTER CHANCE HITTIN THE LOTTERY THAN MAKING REAL MONEY BEING A RECORDING ARTIST.
It's part of a larger trend IMO. After the cold war ended, it was a total win for capitalism and free market capitalism and neoclassical economic principles gained more dominance than ever before over people's thinking. Everything became business as a result which was facilitated by the development of communication technologies. Think about where professional sports were before the 90s for example and how commercialized they became over the last three decades; there isn't anything on TV that has not been carefully designed to appeal to "the market", and almost nothing of actual substance, etc.
In that kind of general spirit, it was only natural that music stopped being about expressing yourself and people's main motivation for doing it became making money. Which ironically became more and more difficult to do the more artists chased the money and forgot about the art
In that kind of general spirit, it was only natural that music stopped being about expressing yourself and people's main motivation for doing it became making money. Which ironically became more and more difficult to do the more artists chased the money and forgot about the art
IMO ITS SORTA LIKE WHAT ELVIS DID WITH BLACK ARTISTS MUSIC.
IT GOT MAINSTREAMED. THE NICHE WAS EXPLOITED AND RECREATED BUT TO MORE OF A BROADER AUDIENCE. BUT IN HIP HOPS CASE THE TECHNOLOGY ALLOWED PEOPLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANTED AND MAKE A MESS OF THE ARTFORM. WIT THE DESPERATE LABELS, BASTARDIZING THE GAME WITH INTENT OF PROFITS BEING THE PRIORITY.
No, it wasn't a plan. Just the natural outcome of the development of the social system within which music exists.
The truth is that most people don't want to listen to hardcore gangsta rap or thought provoking lyrics. There was a period when the exotic appeal of the ghetto in the eyes of middle class America drove sales, but even then it was never the really hardcore artists who went platinum with the notable exception of that Geto Boys album from 1991. That fascination was gone after the mid-90s and the seriousness of the subject disappeared (in the early 90s people were making hood movies, in the mid 90s they were making parodies of them) so even if many artists sold a lot of records while being nominally gangsta rappers what sold those records were mostly single that revolved around bragging about bitches, money and sometime guns, and party tracks.
Then the most mainstream and socially acceptable hip-hop became, the more there was to be gained by exploiting the white middle class market which as I said above was never truly interested in listening to what we on this board would define as real music. The logical end result of this was what we have now - essentially pop music that is nominally in the form of rap. But because what is popular in the mainstream feeds back on what kind of music young artists aspire to make, especially when they are in it primarily to make money and when the regional sounds have disappeared, then more and more artists adopt that homo-based style as the norm and it indeed becomes the norm.
The truth is that most people don't want to listen to hardcore gangsta rap or thought provoking lyrics. There was a period when the exotic appeal of the ghetto in the eyes of middle class America drove sales, but even then it was never the really hardcore artists who went platinum with the notable exception of that Geto Boys album from 1991. That fascination was gone after the mid-90s and the seriousness of the subject disappeared (in the early 90s people were making hood movies, in the mid 90s they were making parodies of them) so even if many artists sold a lot of records while being nominally gangsta rappers what sold those records were mostly single that revolved around bragging about bitches, money and sometime guns, and party tracks.
Then the most mainstream and socially acceptable hip-hop became, the more there was to be gained by exploiting the white middle class market which as I said above was never truly interested in listening to what we on this board would define as real music. The logical end result of this was what we have now - essentially pop music that is nominally in the form of rap. But because what is popular in the mainstream feeds back on what kind of music young artists aspire to make, especially when they are in it primarily to make money and when the regional sounds have disappeared, then more and more artists adopt that homo-based style as the norm and it indeed becomes the norm.